RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 8 Sep, 2013 01:49 pm
https://sphotos-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1236194_10151822725685155_1829798126_n.jpg

With the advent of science and cell phones, one tiny short but precise text message from God would have been helpful... You have mail...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 8 Sep, 2013 01:49 pm
@RexRed,
You wrote,
Quote:
....hate and social intolerance is furthered by the elite not the unsophisticated...


So true! Even many scientists rationalize the contradictions in religious' teachings to accommodate their belief in god(s). Theologians are scholars who must rationalize what they learn to continue their beliefs. It's an amazing feat of self-deception.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 8 Sep, 2013 10:53 pm
Original poster asked- "Does God exist?"
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It depends who or what we think God is.
He said "I fill heaven and earth" (Jer 23:24) so in that sense he may be like Star Wars "The Force" which we can tap into to receive spiritual power.
He might even be the very space-time matter of the universe itself, in which are embedded the stars and planets.
Furthermore in scientific terms he might actually be the Law of the Universe, and if we break that law by bad thoughts or deeds, our misdemeanours automatically trigger a "disruption" in the fabric of the universe such as earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, famine, disease, birth defects in wombs etc.
All that's just speculation of course, as we can never fathom the nature of God while we're in the material universe-
Jesus said- "I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going...Nobody knows the Father except the Son" (John 8:14/Luke 10:22)
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 9 Sep, 2013 10:34 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
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He might even be the very space-time matter of the universe itself, in which are embedded the stars and planets.
For what it's worth Romeo (not very much hereabout), the apodictical existential pantheist supports that position most wholeheartedly

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... might actually be the Law of the Universe, and if we break that law by bad thoughts or deeds, our misdemeanours automatically trigger a "disruption" in the fabric of the universe such as earthquakes, hurricanes…...etc.
This view we can't support. Clearly She is the way She is because She can't be any other way. She can't do the impossible because obviously the impossible can't be done. If we're going to have a Universe we're going to have difficulties as an inevitability

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..., as we can never fathom the nature of God while we're in the material universe-
Disagree. Conceded we can only dance around the basic principle, difficult to express in today's language; but eventually as its abstract/concrete nature becomes more evident Romeo we'll be able to discuss it more intelligently
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 9 Sep, 2013 10:42 am
@dalehileman,
"They" must be a very small percentage of humans - even compared to atheists. Less than three digits?
Herald
 
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Reply Mon 9 Sep, 2013 12:14 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
"I fill heaven and earth" (Jer 23:24)

This may mean: 'We have access and the Earth is within the range of our wireless channel of psychotronic communication' - if it is a message by another ILF passing by our galaxy, for example.
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dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 9 Sep, 2013 02:01 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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"They" must be a very small percentage...
Forgive an old fella with incipient dementia but who are they
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 9 Sep, 2013 02:03 pm
@dalehileman,
Pantheists, of coarse!
dalehileman
 
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Reply Mon 9 Sep, 2013 02:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Evidently about 2 percent, more than I had imagined

https://www.google.ca/#q=percent++pantheists
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 10 Sep, 2013 01:29 pm
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2013 03:58 am

Jesus H Christ!! You are NOT going out like that!!

Shut Up, Joseph! You're not even my real Dad!!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6evNUk9whIo/Uja_jWBpk2I/AAAAAAAA2Gg/cJ_zQoY3B_c/w400-h450-no/gothJC.jpg
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2013 04:44 am
Jesus said - "I've beaten the world" (John 16:33)
What a man! The chasing peloton are nowhere in sight..Smile
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/team-jesus.jpg~original
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 16 Sep, 2013 10:23 am
@RexRed,
That reminds me.. . . Have you ever seen a nose ring that didn't look like a booger?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 02:34 pm
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 02:39 pm
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 02:48 pm
Yup, a change of worlds through the Jesus Stargate..Smile-
Jesus said - "Enter through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it, but small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."(Matt 7:13)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/stargateJesus.gif~original


"It exits on the edge of the known universe!"
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/stargate-known-universe.gif~original

Jesus said- "I know where I came from and where I am going, but you have no idea where I come from or where I am going, I am not of this world" (John 8:14/ 8:23)
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 02:51 pm
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1011922_10151876179543826_368556202_n.jpg


The Chief might be correct. But he may be incorrect. There may be "death."

I certainly do not know...and I wonder if the Chief knew...or if he was just guessing.

What do you think, Rex?
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 03:07 pm
If I might interject, Chief Seattle and other Native Americans lived a life that had a deep spiritual quality in perfect harmony with nature, so yes it's quite possible they were able to "tune in" to Truths that "civilised" people in their concrete jungles struggle to comprehend-
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/wwams.jpg

"Every part of this earth is sacred to my people. Every shining pine needle, every sandy shore, every mist in the dark woods, every clearing and humming insect is holy in the memory and experience of my people.
The sap which courses through the trees carries the memories of the red man. We are part of the earth and it is part of us.
The perfumed flowers are our sisters; the deer, the horse, the great eagle, these are our brothers. The rocky crests, the juices in the meadows, the body heat of the pony, and man, all belong to the same family.
The rivers are our brothers, they quench our thirst. The rivers carry our canoes.
The sight of your cities pains the eyes of the red man. There is no quiet place in the white man's cities.
No place to hear the unfurling of leaves in spring or the rustle of the insect's wings. The clatter only seems to insult the ears."- Chief Seattle of the Suquamis


http://www.stevenredhead.com/Native/
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 26 Sep, 2013 03:46 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Thanks for sharing that "natural religion." We humans are part of earth's nature. Great insight for people who can understand its meaning.
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Herald
 
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Reply Sat 28 Sep, 2013 08:38 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
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... Chief Seattle and other Native Americans lived a life that had a deep spiritual quality in perfect harmony with nature ...

The problem is not only to live in perfect harmony with nature, but also not to start thinking that you can survive without nature ... and that you are standing above the things.
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