Does God Exist?

Sure, the Old T God had to slap ancient primitive peoples around if they asked for it . . .

Quehon posted:

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Frank Apisa said: The god Jesus worshiped...did espouse genocide, subservience of women, slavery etc.
Your comment that Jesus never did is absurd...considering Jesus worshiped a god who did. Wake up.
Romeo said: Sure, the Old T God had to slap ancient primitive peoples around if they asked for it, but later he sent Jesus to say "don't do stuff like that no more"..
Frank Apisa asked: Do you mind citing that passage!

Sure mate, this is the card Jesus played to trump everything else..-

"Love one another, feed the hungry, house the homeless, clothe the destitute, tend the sick, visit the prisoners, look after the poor"- Jesus of Nazareth (Mark 12:30, John 13:34, Matt 25: 37-40)
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Frank Apisa said:- Here is what Jesus actually said-
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets. I have come, not to abolish them, but to fulfill them. Of this much I assure you; UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, not the smallest letter of the law, not the smallest part of a letter shall be done away with until it all comes true." Matthew 5:17ff
Jesus was one with the god he worshiped.

Answer this mate-
If the Old Testament laws were all fine and dandy, why did God send Jesus to give us the New Testament?

Do you understand the definition of "evidence"? There's none there.

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Do you understand the definition of "evidence"? There's none there.

then it is very very simple.
You haven't read it or understood it.

I read it, I quoted it and I did understand that it's not evidence. I didn't see a single reference to a peer-reviewed, double-blind study that had been replicated by independent researchers. If I missed one, please link me to it. All I saw was his own articles delivering his own claims. It's OK to make claims, but unless you have empirical evidence accumulated through careful observation and/or experimentation, you only have an unsupported claim, just like theists. At least Sheldrake understands that much and is attempting to provide such evidence.

Well who was it on trial before Pilate, OJ Simpson?

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I read it, I quoted it and I did understand that it's not evidence. I didn't see a single reference to a peer-reviewed, double-blind study that had been replicated by independent researchers. If I missed one, please link me to it. All I saw was his own articles delivering his own claims. It's OK to make claims, but unless you have empirical evidence accumulated through careful observation and/or experimentation, you only have an unsupported claim, just like theists. At least Sheldrake understands that much and is attempting to provide such evidence.

strange indeed. Are we still talking about the liar Dawkins here????
If so, there is lot of evidence.
So, to be clear about what are we talking about now?

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Frank Apisa said:- Here is what Jesus actually said-
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets. I have come, not to abolish them, but to fulfill them. Of this much I assure you; UNTIL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, not the smallest letter of the law, not the smallest part of a letter shall be done away with until it all comes true." Matthew 5:17ff
Jesus was one with the god he worshiped.

Answer this mate-
If the Old Testament laws were all fine and dandy, why did God send Jesus to give us the New Testament?

Well, when Sheldrake calls Randi a liar, he backs it up with hard evidence that anyone can look at. Printed e-mail exchanges, for example. When you call Dawkins a liar, what do you have to back it up? Once again, I'm neither a Dawkins fan nor foe, but I don't know of anything that convicts him of being a liar. Biased, yes, but that's another story. If you've got some solid evidence, please show it to me. If it's conclusive, I'll accept it. If it's nothing but rhetoric, like what's on that website you linked to, I won't. I hope you understand.

Romeo asked Frank Apisa: Answer this mate-
If the Old Testament laws were all fine and dandy, why did God send Jesus to give us the New Testament?
Frank Apisa replied: Maybe the "New Testament" is nothing more than the letters and writings of people with an agenda..

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Romeo asked Frank Apisa: Answer this mate-
If the Old Testament laws were all fine and dandy, why did God send Jesus to give us the New Testament?
Frank Apisa replied: Maybe the "New Testament" is nothing more than the letters and writings of people with an agenda..

Tell us what their "agenda" and motive was for inventing the New T, if you can..

As regards Jesus saying "don't do that nasty Old T stuff no more", here ya go-
"Love one another, feed the hungry, house the homeless, clothe the destitute, tend the sick, visit the prisoners, look after the poor"- Jesus of Nazareth (Mark 12:30, John 13:34, Matt 25: 37-40)

See, you can still do nasty Old T stuff if you choose, but he'd be none too pleased with you..

PS- you asked me in another thread how did i know that you and your Air Force chums went to that Upton fish n' chip shop. Fact is you said so in another post a while back.

Frank Apisa suggested: Maybe the "New Testament" is nothing more than the letters and writings of people with an agenda..
Romeo replied: Tell us what their "agenda" and motive was for inventing the New T, if you can..
Frank Apisa came back with: They probably had the same needs you have...to be done with the brutal, murderous, barbaric, tyrannical god that Jesus worshiped. That was easy.

Romeo replied: Tell us what their "agenda" and motive was for inventing the New T, if you can..

Romeo said: Tell us what their "agenda" and motive was for inventing the New T, if you can..
Spendius said: I could take a shot at that but it's a bit complicated and I haven't the time. It's well known anyway.
I can do why four versions were included in the KJ as well.