Does God Exist?

There's a difference between having an opinion, even a bias, and intellectual dishonesty. Maybe you and I are working with different definitions of "evidence." Again, I'm not saying that Dawkins isn't intellectually dishonest; I don't know (or care very much), but what you've shown so far isn't quite hard evidence. I think any objective, well-educated third party would agree on this

Dawkins has been married three times, and has one daughter. On 19 August 1967, Dawkins married fellow ethologist Marian Stamp in Annestown, County Waterford, Ireland; they divorced in 1984. Later that same year, on 1 June, he married Eve Barham (19 August 1951–28 February 1999) in Oxford. They had a daughter, Juliet Emma Dawkins (born 1984, Oxford). Dawkins and Barham also divorced. In 1992, he married actress Lalla Ward in Kensington and Chelsea, London. Dawkins met her through their mutual friend Douglas Adams, who had worked with her on the BBC's Doctor Who.

Dawkins is dishonest because he fails to offer an alternative social policy to the system he seeks to exterminate.

He was dishonest too in the making of the movies he produced. He took his simplifications to some ladies who had no chance against him. He left out taking them to a Catholic theologian.

He's a phoney and his light is fading. But--hey! he got the dough. And the attention he obviously craves.

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Dawkins has been married three times, and has one daughter. On 19 August 1967, Dawkins married fellow ethologist Marian Stamp in Annestown, County Waterford, Ireland; they divorced in 1984. Later that same year, on 1 June, he married Eve Barham (19 August 1951–28 February 1999) in Oxford. They had a daughter, Juliet Emma Dawkins (born 1984, Oxford). Dawkins and Barham also divorced. In 1992, he married actress Lalla Ward in Kensington and Chelsea, London. Dawkins met her through their mutual friend Douglas Adams, who had worked with her on the BBC's Doctor Who.

That Juliet Emma's birthday is not included raises the suspicion that she was got with child whilst Dawkins was married to his first love.

Obviously the Catholic Church needs to be shafted under such sordid circumstances. Whether Eve died at 48 as a result of the emotional turmoil is a matter of speculation.

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Neologist said: I pretty much meant your idea of the resurrection, Romeo.. I simply wish to know if you believe your father will be there...

Jesus was quite clear about judgement day-
"All in the graves shall come out, to resurrection or damnation" (John 5:28/29)

so none of us know what group we'll fall into, so your question can't be answered by me or anybody else, although I'm flattered that you think I know..

...morality certainly did not come from the Bible, it came from the age of reason spurned by the printing press and social forums.

, but I genuinely do hope that evidence wins out over rhetoric and heresay.

RexRed wrote:

...morality certainly did not come from the Bible, it came from the age of reason spurned by the printing press and social forums.

Actually, it really does not matter either.

Because the best guess that can be made about the "morality of the Bible"...

...is that it came from humans.

The best guess that can be made is that humans put their notions of morality into the mouths of their gods (including the ancient Hebrews)...so even if a case can be made that our current morality owes a big debt to notions expressed in the Bible...so what!

If people want to be guided (or ruled) in their moral conduct by notions of superstitious, relatively unknowledgeable, relatively unsophisticated ancient Hebrews...so be it.

For those who would rather develop a morality code based on laws currently deemed appropriate...which I think the wiser, more logical choice...so much better.

Frank Apisa wrote:

RexRed wrote:

...morality certainly did not come from the Bible, it came from the age of reason spurned by the printing press and social forums.

Actually, it really does not matter either.

Because the best guess that can be made about the "morality of the Bible"...

...is that it came from humans.

The best guess that can be made is that humans put their notions of morality into the mouths of their gods (including the ancient Hebrews)...so even if a case can be made that our current morality owes a big debt to notions expressed in the Bible...so what!

If people want to be guided (or ruled) in their moral conduct by notions of superstitious, relatively unknowledgeable, relatively unsophisticated ancient Hebrews...so be it.

For those who would rather develop a morality code based on laws currently deemed appropriate...which I think the wiser, more logical choice...so much better.

To attribute morality to a barbaric God who espouses genocide, subservience of women, slavery etc... and "Christian soldiers" is nothing more than totalitarianism.

I see a problem with that. I do not think the Bible is the source of morality, instead it is holding society back from becoming even more moral.

Even an atheists frame of reference when it comes to morality can be based upon the Bible and other so called holy books.

This is why we have a few bad atheists.

They reject God but still get their sick morality from the Bible.

RexRed said: To attribute morality to a barbaric God who espouses genocide, subservience of women, slavery etc... and "Christian soldiers" is nothing more than totalitarianism.

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RexRed said: To attribute morality to a barbaric God who espouses genocide, subservience of women, slavery etc... and "Christian soldiers" is nothing more than totalitarianism.

What book you reading mate? Jesus never said to do stuff like that!

RexRed said: genocide, subservience of women, slavery etc...
Romeo replied: What book you reading mate? Jesus never said to do stuff like that!
Frank Apisa said: The god he worshiped did!

Sure, the Old T God had to slap ancient primitive peoples around if they asked for it, but later he sent Jesus to say "don't do stuff like that no more".