Does God Exist?

@Quehoniaomath,

Quehoniaomath wrote:

what story do you mean now? I don't dispute there is a story. It is a fairytale.
jesus is just a symbol and not a 'human being' or 'alien' or whatever.
he just was never real to begin with. so everything build on that nonsense is nosense too.

The Jeebus story, of course. I don't claim to know for sure that there was no person called by that name who started a cult, but unless somebody can come up with some real evidence, I am thoroughly disinclined to believe in any sort of divinity.

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@FBM,

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The Jeebus story, of course. I don't claim to know for sure that there was no person called by that name who started a cult, but unless somebody can come up with some real evidence, I am thoroughly disinclined to believe in any sort of divinity.

Do what you want to do I don't care.
and well, there is very simply mo evidence for jesus to be found, unless someone already believs in him. And furthermorem, it is very easy to see that jesus was not a man , but a symbol for the SUN. hence the light of the wordl and what have you. As there are numerous avatars and dieties honderd of years before jesus.also born of a virgin, raising the dead, and what have you. All these stories are the same because it;s about the SUN not the son.

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@Quehoniaomath,

There have been fairy tales about Jesus. . . Also lies.
In the end, folks seem to gravitate to whatever suits their desires.

That could be a mistake, however

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@Quehoniaomath,

Quehoniaomath wrote:

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The Jeebus story, of course. I don't claim to know for sure that there was no person called by that name who started a cult, but unless somebody can come up with some real evidence, I am thoroughly disinclined to believe in any sort of divinity.

Do what you want to do I don't care.
and well, there is very simply mo evidence for jesus to be found, unless someone already believs in him. And furthermorem, it is very easy to see that jesus was not a man , but a symbol for the SUN. hence the light of the wordl and what have you. As there are numerous avatars and dieties honderd of years before jesus.also born of a virgin, raising the dead, and what have you. All these stories are the same because it;s about the SUN not the son.

And where is the evidence for Mohammed? Did you see the angel come down from heaven and talk to him yourself?

You like to insult other religions but can't take it when people do the same to your fairy tails.

And having many wives is immoral...

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Queequeg said: the jesus fairy tale

Haha you're a funny guy, Jesus pulled crowds of thousands of eyewitnesses at his gigs-
"everybody tried to touch him because power was coming from him"- Luke 6:12-19

You'll be telling us Elvis never existed next, right Elv?

"Uh-huh"..

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/elvis-stage_zpsdbf8f1c6.jpg~original

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

The Jeebus story, of course. . .

There are many who seek to discredit by ridicule.

It verifies the strong opinions of the speaker but does nothing to advance his argument. Rather, it bestows points on the contrary.

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@neologist,

neologist wrote:

FBM wrote:
The Jeebus story, of course. . .
There are many who seek to discredit by ridicule.

It verifies the strong opinions of the speaker but does nothing to advance his argument. Rather, it bestows points on the contrary.

Romeo up there does little else than ridicule. I combined my "Jeebus" with critical thinking, as far as I know, devoid of the logical fallacies that riddle Romeo's posts. How about focusing on that instead?

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@Quehoniaomath,

Quehoniaomath wrote:

. . . All these stories are the same because it;s about the SUN not the son.

So that's your argument? The word sun rhymes with with son?

So the Hebrews pronounce ben to rhyme with shemesh?

And for those who speak Estonian, poeg rhymes with Päike?

This is better than a bucket of martinis. Drunk

Hang up your homophone, Q.

Try to come up with some argument based on reason.

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@FBM,

Sorry, I did not mean to disparage your usual well considered posts. But Romeo's logical fallacies expose him well enough.

I could play a word game with that. Laughing

Then he would simply add it to his oft posted list of internet rebukes as if it were a triumph. Neutral

yawn!

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FBM said: Romeo up there does little else than ridicule..

You're a former buddhist monk mate and I don't think i've ever ridiculed Buddha!
As I've said before, Buddha made great attempts to discover the Truth in pre-Jesus times, and he'd probably have seen the writings of the Old T prophets who foretold the coming of a "Superprophet" (Jesus), and Buddha must have wished he'd be around to meet him.
Perhaps Buddha was therefore one of the "righteous men" spoken of by Jesus when he told his disciples -
"..many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which you see, and have not seen them, and to hear those things which you hear, and have not heard them" (Matt 13:17)

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

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Queequeg said: the jesus fairy tale

Haha you're a funny guy, Jesus pulled crowds of thousands of eyewitnesses at his gigs-
"everybody tried to touch him because power was coming from him"- Luke 6:12-19

You'll be telling us Elvis never existed next, right Elv?

"Uh-huh"..

Got a photo of Jesus and his large crowds?

I hear prince charming had quite an entourage too. Smile

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Correction, fairy tales, not tails (lol) it was too early this morning for me to spell anything right. Smile

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@FBM,

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How about focusing on that instead?

Okay. What's your reason for using the word JEEBUS like Setanta does?

We might style you FeeBuM if we all wanted to show disrespect to you in that soppy manner.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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How about focusing on that instead?

Okay. What's your reason for using the word JEEBUS like Setanta does?

It's a common thing on teh interweebs among us atheists/agnostics/faithless. It's kind of like flashing gang signs to let the other person know that you're a member. I was just letting Que know that I wasn't arguing against him.

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We might style you FeeBuM if we all wanted to show disrespect to you in that soppy manner.

Knock yerself out. Cool with me. If Jesus were really existant and transcendant, then I doubt such a petty thing would bother him, either. If he were so petty, then I'm not sure how we could also regard him as transcendant.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

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FBM said: Romeo up there does little else than ridicule..

You're a former buddhist monk mate and I don't think i've ever ridiculed Buddha!

I never said you did. What's your point?

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As I've said before, Buddha made great attempts to discover the Truth in pre-Jesus times, and he'd probably have seen the writings of the Old T prophets who foretold the coming of a "Superprophet" (Jesus), and Buddha must have wished he'd be around to meet him.
Perhaps Buddha was therefore one of the "righteous men" spoken of by Jesus when he told his disciples -
"..many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which you see, and have not seen them, and to hear those things which you hear, and have not heard them" (Matt 13:17)

*yawn* Once again, the Bible is the claim, not the evidence. Quoting it does nothing. If you ever find any real evidence for this Bronze Age god of yours, I'll pay attention. Have a nice day.

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@Quehoniaomath,

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the man never even exited!

Where, what, and when did Jesus exited. Laughing

ex·it
ˈegzit,ˈeksit/
verb
past tense: exited; past participle: exited

go out of or leave a place.
"they exited from the aircraft"
synonyms: leave, go (out), depart, withdraw, retreat More
"the doctor had just exited"
antonyms: enter
(of an actor) leave the stage.
used as a stage direction in a printed play to indicate that a character leaves the stage.

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@Quehoniaomath,

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How can it be , he is just a symbol, not a 'human'.

Where are your references, your sources, your evidence for what you said above? Ah... you do not have any? Rolling Eyes

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FBM said: *yawn* Once again, the Bible is the claim, not the evidence. Quoting it does nothing

Buddhists quote Buddhist scriptures, so why can't Christians quote Bible scriptures?
Incidentally did Buddha really exist? And who wrote down his teachings?
Prove it.. Smile

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

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FBM said: *yawn* Once again, the Bible is the claim, not the evidence. Quoting it does nothing

Buddhists quote Buddhist scriptures, so why can't Christians quote Bible scriptures?
Incidentally did Buddha really exist? And who wrote down his teachings?
Prove it..

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The claim that a wise philosopher once existed is perfectly mundane, so the prevailing scholarship is sufficient to work with as a tentative hypothesis.

It's quite more extraordinary to claim that there's an invisible, undetectable sky-daddy who created and runs everything. To get that accepted as a credible hypothesis, you'll need some truly extraordinary evidence.

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@FBM,

FBM wrote:

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

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FBM said: *yawn* Once again, the Bible is the claim, not the evidence. Quoting it does nothing

Buddhists quote Buddhist scriptures, so why can't Christians quote Bible scriptures?
Incidentally did Buddha really exist? And who wrote down his teachings?
Prove it..

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The claim that a wise philosopher once existed is perfectly mundane, so the prevailing scholarship is sufficient to work with as a tentative hypothesis.

It's quite more extraordinary to claim that there's an invisible, undetectable sky-daddy who created and runs everything. To get that accepted as a credible hypothesis, you'll need some truly extraordinary evidence.

The claim that you know enough about the REALITY of existence to KNOW that there are no gods involved...is pretty extraordinary also, FBM.

If you are making that assertion...you ought to have very extraordinary evidence for it to be credible.

Are you making that assertion?

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