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Game over for gun controls in any country in the world

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 02:08 pm
@parados,
Quote:
A number of what would be considered reasonably intelligent people including Drs and lawyers have fallen for Nigerian scams


I have to laugh at the above statement as you would need to be a complete fool to fall for such silliness and should not be allow out of the house without a guardian.

My 92 years old mother laugh at such phone calls.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 15 May, 2013 03:48 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

By the way David the same people who wish to take our second amendment rights seem to wish to limit our first amendment rights to match that of such countries as Canada and the EU.

With special note of the internet where people can host and therefore make available to the rest of the world all kind of materials on US servers that would get you locked up in almost anywhere else under the hate laws.

The authoritarians wish to make the Earth
a place of un-ending terror.





David
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 15 May, 2013 03:56 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Terror is what the children in Sandy Hook, and the patrons of a cinema in Denver felt. It's got nothing to do with making the world a safer place. The most powerful weapon you have isn't your gun, but your vote. Show a bit of faith in democracy.

The most stringent laws that the current administration could possibly pass will still let you keep your guns. You've got nothing to worry about, unlike thousands of schoolchildren.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 May, 2013 07:46 am
@izzythepush,
You are living in a dream world... DEMOCRACY is EVIL.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 15 May, 2013 08:32 am
@H2O MAN,
Spoken like a true fascist.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 15 May, 2013 08:51 am
@izzythepush,


Laughing Jizzy, you don't even know the definition of 'fascist'.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 May, 2013 01:09 am
@izzythepush,
You're a fascist, and you're lying to yourself if you say you're not.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 18 May, 2013 10:08 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Terror is what the children in Sandy Hook, and the patrons of a cinema in Denver felt.
It's got nothing to do with making the world a safer place.
I wish that the victims had been better armed in their own defense
and been well drilled in defensive battle tactics. Candor moves me to admit
that there must be an age below which human beings cannot use tools, including defensive tools.
Maybe some of the victims cud have fought back with defensive gunfire and others cud not; I dunno.
As a general rule, I wish that the victims r better armed than the predators.



izzythepush wrote:
The most powerful weapon you have isn't your gun, but your vote.
Yes; I do the best I can to degrade, curtail and to strangle the domestic jurisdiction of government,
to break its heart, break its spirit, thereby to re-establish
Americanism, in accordance with the Founders' principles of personal liberty.
Liberty and government jurisdiction are INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL

I vote as anti-authoritarianly as I can.

Still: if attacked in the streets, I wanna use my GUN, not my vote.


izzythepush wrote:
Show a bit of faith in democracy.
History has proven that faith is not justified.
If it were, then Obama 'd not have been elected; nor Clinton.




izzythepush wrote:
The most stringent laws that the current administration could possibly pass
will still let you keep your guns. You've got nothing to worry about,
I remain acutely aware of that situation, Izzy.
I am a (somewhat) active participant in it
and I have focused upon it for several decades
with meticulous political n jurisprudential analysis,
eventually vindicated by the USSC in the HELLER case.
I remain optimistic that we freedom-loving citizens
can prevent the "current administration" from passing any laws on that subject.
Accordingly, the Bill of Rights will be honored.





izzythepush wrote:
unlike thousands of schoolchildren.
Your point is well taken; shockingly high numbers of them
remain un-armed and helpless from dogs in the streets or from assassins in the schools.

From the age of 8, I prepared myself for personal defense
as well as I cud. Eventually, I needed that defense.





David
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 07:45 am
Quote:


http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/25/world/europe/uk-police-3d-printer-gun/

London (CNN) -- Police in England said Friday they have seized what could be the parts for Britain's first firearm made using 3-D printing -- but later said more testing is needed to establish if this is the case.
An initial news release from Greater Manchester Police said officers had found "a 3D printer and what is suspected to be a 3D plastic magazine and trigger which could be fitted together to make a viable 3D gun" when they searched locations Thursday in the Baguley area, near Manchester in northwest England.
But after doubts were raised, the force released a second statement stressing that the parts were still being examined.
"We need to be absolutely clear that at this stage, we cannot categorically say we have recovered the component parts for a 3D gun," Assistant Chief Constable Steve Heywood said.
"What we have seized are items that need further forensic testing by national ballistics experts to establish whether they can be used in the construction of a genuine, viable firearm.
"We will also be conducting a thorough analysis of computers we have recovered to establish any evidence of a blueprint on how to construct such a weapon."
U.S.-based tech blog Gigaom reported that it appeared the items police suspected of being gun components were in fact spare parts for the 3D printer.
The raid that netted the items was part of a planned week of action against criminal gangs in Manchester, police said. A man has been arrested on suspicion of making gunpowder and is being questioned.
3-D printed guns a boon for criminals?
In his statement, Heywood said the seizure had prompted discussion around the potential threats posed by 3-D printing.
"Clearly the fact we have seized a 3D printer and have intelligence about the possible production of a weapon using this technology is of concern. It (is) prudent we establish exactly what these parts can be used for and whether they pose any threat," he said.
"What this has also done is open up a wider debate about the emerging threat these next generation of weapons might pose."
Printing instructions
Others have also raised concerns about the potential for 3-D printing to be used to create weapons.
U.S. requires group to remove 3-D gun instructions from its website
This year, the U.S. State Department ordered Defense Distributed, a nonprofit group set up by a Texas law student, to remove instructions for printing a handgun with a 3-D printer from its website.
Video shows test-firing of 3-D printed handgun
The group's founder, Cody Wilson, had posted a video online showing a single shot being fired from "The Liberator," a plastic handgun that, with the exception of a metal firing pin and a piece of metal included to comply with the Undetectable Firearms Act, was assembled entirely from parts made with a 3-D printer.
Wilson complied with the order, but not before the design had been downloaded more than 100,000 times.
The Victoria and Albert Museum in London subsequently acquired two models of the Liberator pistol, which were put on display last month as part of a design exhibition.
The Science Museum in London also has a Liberator on display.
CNN's Lindsay Isaac and Arion McNicoll contributed to this report.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 08:16 am

It is MANIFEST DESTINY that science & engineering will trump political oppression
and that future, progressively better evolutions of The Liberator will flourish thru out the world.
HOORAY!

I have no doubt that 3D printers will pump out huge volumes of AK47 submachineguns for the household,
to the consternation n frustration of supporters of victim disarmament.





David
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 08:29 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Still an idiot.


www.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 08:34 am
@Lordyaswas,
Idiots cannot read or write.

Do u expect idiots to change into non-idiots ?
Has that ever happened? I dont think it has.





David
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timur
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 08:47 am
OMS wrote:
Idiots cannot read or write.


This defies simple logic.

Are you saying that illiterate people are idiots?

Or that people that know how to read and write have a sound judgement?

Reminds me this:

John Stuart Mill wrote:
Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

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parados
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 08:57 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I have no doubt that 3D printers will pump out huge volumes of AK47 submachineguns for the household,
to the consternation n frustration of supporters of victim disarmament.

Of course anyone that does that in violation of the law will be a criminal. Anyone that manufactures a submachine gun and fails to get the proper permits in the US or fails to follow the law in their country will probably be convicted if found to have violated the law.

Today it is easy for anyone to build a bomb with household chemicals but we don't celebrate the people that do that, we incarcerate them. Just because someone can do something in their home doesn't make it legal.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 09:34 am
@parados,
You are aware that unlike bombs firearms are cover by the 2 amendment so they are not one and the same thing?

Of course the current government is now attacking the first and the fourth and the fifth amendments so we can not depend on the Federal government to protected our freedoms so access to firearms are even more important.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 10:11 am
@BillRM,
If you build a fully automatic weapon in the US it violates the law if you are not a licensed manufacturer. It is against the law if you build a bomb without the correct licensing. End of story.

The 2nd amendment doesn't mean there are no laws concerning weapons. The Supreme Court has made that clear even in the Heller ruling.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 12:46 pm
@parados,
Yes dear but you can not build a fully auto weapon out of plastic as the heat would melt it down in roughly a second.

So bringing up fully auto weapons of that type is a smoke screen.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 01:10 pm
@BillRM,
Gosh darling, maybe you should direct that to your dear friend David since I was responding to his statement before you jumped in.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 02:23 pm
@parados,
Some of the mediums a printer can use is metals.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 25 Oct, 2013 02:47 pm
@RABEL222,
Quote:
Some of the mediums a printer can use is metals


Interesting would you care to link to such a claim?.
 

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