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Game over for gun controls in any country in the world

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 01:15 am
@RABEL222,
Instead of fighting America's battles in Iraq and Afghanistan?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 01:22 am
@BillRM,
You're so full of it, you've not shown an ounce of sympathy for anyone other than rapists, child abusers and murderers. You even argued that Texas should be allowed to kill a man before examining DNA evidence that could exonerate him.

You only concern yourself with the sentences for crimes you're likely to be caught doing.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 04:34 pm
@izzythepush,
Weren't these countries originally controlled by Great Britain. But than we seem to inherit wars from you which you than condemn us for, like Israel.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 05:07 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Weren't these countries originally controlled by Great Britain. But than
we seem to inherit wars from you . . .
Like the first 2 World Wars ??
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 06:36 pm
@contrex,
contrex wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.


Well, you ought to know, considering what a gigantic denier of inconvenient facts you are yourself.

That allegation has no merit.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 06:42 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
Centrex sounds worried.

England might revert to its status quo ante
of 100years ago



David it still amazed me how unfree the English people happen to be not only in regards to firearms but even to having non-approved printed/electronic materials can end up with you in prison for years.

When traveling outside the protection of the first amendment it would be wise to go through your laptop and e-reader to made such you do no have copies of any books/magazines that the host government would not care for you to have.

Hell that seems to apply even to our neighbors to the north of us.

Once more we need to thanks our founding fathers and the bill or rights they wisely added to the constitution.


Which electronic materials r those ?
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 08:47 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Which electronic materials r those ?



Any thing that can be consider hate literature and that depend on the countries you might be visiting. In some areas of the world the Christian bible can get you in trouble as I said it all depend on the area of the world you are visiting.

Off hand for myself a few issues of the middle east terrorist E magazine Inspire and a far right racist/neo-Nazis book call the Turner Diary in book format.

Both Canada and the EU could give you problems for having either materials on your computer/ebook reader.

Strange reading in both cases but still interesting for anyone who would like to try to understand the thinking of either group.

However people have ended up in prison for having such materials on their computers in such so call free countries as England even in the cases where the court had acknowledge that the person who had it had no criminal intend but have it for research purposes only.

We Americans can be thankful that ideas even ideas that are sickening/hateful can be examine without fear of us going to prison for looking at them.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 09:10 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
By the way David the same people who wish to take our second amendment rights seem to wish to limit our first amendment rights to match that of such countries as Canada and the EU.

With special note of the internet where people can host and therefore make available to the rest of the world all kind of materials on US servers that would get you locked up in almost anywhere else under the hate laws.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 09:29 pm
The beauty of the plans is anyone can make a change in them and repost them online. The downfall of the plans is anyone can make a change in them and repost them.

When people start downloading a plan that purposely makes the barrel too small for the projectile we will see who was trying to make this weapon and failed. At least when you download a pirated copy of software you only risk your computer.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 01:34 am
@RABEL222,
You really talk rot. Try taking responsibility for your own actions instead of blaming everything on what we were supposed to have done hundreds of years ago.

Next you'll be blaming us for Vietnam.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 02:38 am
@izzythepush,
Btw, there were no wars to inherit. Afghanistan was the result of America arming fundamentalist Moslems fighting the Soviets, then letting the country fester.

Iraq was all about revenge after 9/11, the fact that the perpetrators were Saudi and Egyptian and had nothing whatsoever to do with Iraq didn't come into it.

What's unforgivable is the sheer incompetence that typified both campaigns. You did a half arsed job, if both campaigns had been resourced sufficiently at the beginning, both countries would be stable, as opposed to being a breeding ground for extremists.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 07:18 am
@parados,
Quote:
Then people start downloading a plan that purposely makes the barrel too small for the projectile we will see who was trying to make this weapon and failed. At least when you download a pirated copy of software you only risk your computer.


You do know that if that should become a problem the designers can sign their plans with such public/private key programs as PGP?

Or even just releasing the hash values of the plans for that matter however it would be better to PGP sign the files.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 10:54 am
@BillRM,
My God Bill....
Simply warning people to double check the hash before they load any software will result in all people doing just that. With that ingenious scheme no one will ever download viruses or fall for Nigerian lottery scams.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 11:47 am
@izzythepush,
Nope. That was France. Another European country. You are beginning to sound like Advocate now in your denial of facts. 200 years is a lie. 50 is more like it. Where is Santana when I need him!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 12:58 pm
@RABEL222,
I've not denied any facts, but most of the stuff you go on about happened a long time ago as opposed to what's going on right now. We can't do anything about the past, but we can learn from it.

When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan the British government tried to tell them of their experiences. Similarly when America invaded Afghanistan, Russia tried to do the same thing. In each case the advice was ignored, and that's why we're where we are right now.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 01:07 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:



When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan the British government tried to tell them of their experiences. Similarly when America invaded Afghanistan, Russia tried to do the same thing. In each case the advice was ignored, and that's why we're where we are right now.


Do you know why Russia went in & lost?

Do you know why America went in & remain?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 01:21 pm
@H2O MAN,
Because the minute America leaves, you've lost.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 01:28 pm
@izzythepush,


Rolling Eyes Question

You have no idea why either country went in.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 01:29 pm
@parados,
Somehow I do not think that the people with the IQ level of someone that would fall for a Nigerian lottery scams are the same population who would be handling CAD plans to created anything including guns.

parados
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 02:01 pm
@BillRM,
A number of what would be considered reasonably intelligent people including Drs and lawyers have fallen for Nigerian scams. Naivety has little to do with intelligence some times.

But the world is full of people that download things without knowing the risk they are taking. Any idiot with some money can buy a 3d printer. It doesn't mean they have the knowledge to be able to do more than download random "cool" files and print them out. My point is that 80-90% of the people that spend time on the internet wouldn't know what hash means or how to use it to check a file's accuracy. If I download an iso from a trusted source, I don't bother to check the hash unless the mounted iso doesn't work.
 

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