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Game over for gun controls in any country in the world

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 10:18 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Thanks to the naked emperor Obama


Sorry but the end of the Rome Republic was the outcome of the concentration of wealth in a very very few hands and the ending of having large numbers of small land owners.

Something the GOP is driving us toward not Obama or his party.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 10:31 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:



Something the GOP is driving us toward not Obama or his party.

Sorry, that's not what's happening. Obama is driving wealth the the political and celebrity class.
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contrex
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:47 am
People who suppose that this plastic gun or even an improved version is going to sweep away gun controls in strict countries like the UK are just fantasising. By and large the reason why gun control in the UK works is that people just plain don't want them. We have news media that show what happens when crazy dicks and nut cases run around with firearms in the US and open fire on cinema audiences or school classrooms. Anyhow even if we had the guns, where are we going to get the ammunition? People making black powder or (heaven forbid) Cordite (that won't happen) in their kitchens are going to blow themselves up as often as they harm any criminals. We aren't stupid enough to imagine that a single-shot plastic pipe bomb open at one end is going to make us "safer" when we go to the ATM.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:02 pm
@contrex,
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.





David
contrex
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 01:28 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.


Well, you ought to know, considering what a gigantic denier of inconvenient facts you are yourself.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 01:37 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
One thing I find sad is that at one time the gunsmiths of the UK were the best in the world creating some real works of arts.

To this day such works are highly prized at least outside of the UK in the still free nations.

You know nations not only with gun rights but nations where you do not get send to prison for visiting the inspire magazine site and downloading some issues to see what the hell it is about or for refusing to decrypt your computers at demand of the government or for daring to issue what the government had rule is hate speak.

Thank god for the US founding fathers.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 08:02 pm
@BillRM,
God condemn those conservative liars who have perverted the Constitution.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 08:27 pm
@RABEL222,
He revealed their cold liberal ways for all of mankind to see.
He said unto the people "cast liberalism from your sole" and ye shall be saved.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 08:48 pm
@contrex,
Quote:
People making black powder or (heaven forbid) Cordite (that won't happen) in their kitchens are going to blow themselves up


LOL I had made gun powder in my folks basement as a child and the only harm done was to my hearing for a day or so when I set off the gun power in a large metal container to be on the safe side and the damn container rang like a very large bell.

But I guess UK adults are not as bright as a 13 years old or so American child with a chemistry set and a science fiction book by the name of the Gun Powder God by H. Beam Piper that had the formula for gun powder in it.

Then again working small arms had used the material in match heads as have some bombs for that matter.

There is a nice video on youtube that showed a cannon ball being shot out of a cannon at high speed using match heads by the mythbusters.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 10:39 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

God condemn those conservative liars who have perverted the Constitution.
Your post consists of OXYMORONIC contradictions-in-terms.





David
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contrex
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 02:39 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
But I guess UK adults are not as bright as a 13 years old or so American child with a chemistry set and a science fiction book by the name of the Gun Powder God by H. Beam Piper that had the formula for gun powder in it.


That is a pretty stupid remark, even for you, but it did a useful thing, it reminded me what a waste of time this thread is, full of armchair warriors and dimbulb fantasists.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 04:55 am
@contrex,
Centrex sounds worried.

England might revert to its status quo ante
of 100years ago, when any Englishman near another
legally cud have a revolver concealed in his clothes.





David
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 07:15 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Centrex sounds worried.

England might revert to its status quo ante
of 100years ago



David it still amazed me how unfree the English people happen to be not only in regards to firearms but even to having non-approved printed/electronic materials can end up with you in prison for years.

When traveling outside the protection of the first amendment it would be wise to go through your laptop and e-reader to made such you do no have copies of any books/magazines that the host government would not care for you to have.

Hell that seems to apply even to our neighbors to the north of us.

Once more we need to thanks our founding fathers and the bill or rights they wisely added to the constitution.

contrex
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 07:20 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:


David it still amazed me how unfree the English people happen to be not only in regards to firearms but even to having non-approved printed/electronic materials can end up with you in prison for years.

When traveling outside the protection of the first amendment it would be wise to go through your laptop and e-reader to made such you do no have copies of any books/magazines that the host government would not care for you to have.


BIll speaking up for the right to import child pornography and terrorist training manuals into foreign countries?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 07:53 am
@contrex,
Another thing he doesn't grasp is that freedom means telling overbearing Americans just where they can stick their ridiculous notions of freedom.


BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 08:14 am
@contrex,
Quote:
BIll speaking up for the right to import child pornography and terrorist training manuals into foreign countries?


I did not know that CP is legal in the US!!!!!!!! If memory serve me correctly the punishments for having such materials is far far far more in the US then in the UK.

Yes, however I am talking about having copies of inspire magazine as I find trying to understand their thinking interesting even if the UK government does not trust it own citizens to look at such material and in the same light the racist book the Turner Diary for example.

As far as such material being training manuals there are US army manuals that give far far better details on such matters as IED designs that anyone can order or download. In fact I found the so call instructions in inspire magazine to be on the simple minded side and not containing any information that could not be found in a millions other places dating back many decades.

Hmm perhaps in the UK having US training manuals of that nature will get you thrown in prison also!!!!!!!!! How about the autobiography of a Miami bomb squad guy should I removed that before visiting your slave island?

Knowledge alone is not evil or call for prison terms when it come to a free people. Hell nether does interest and research into the thinking of terrorists groups call for prison terms.

Uk citizens are not free as their government claimed the right to control what they can read and therefore hopefully what they can think.

PS given the tubes/bus bombings in London your methods do not seem to work any better then our freedom of information society so what are you gaining beside chains by granting the government the right to punished you for reading forbidden materials?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 08:57 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
they can stick their ridiculous notions of freedom.


You like your chains how nice for you to do so given the slave state you are living in...........

Take note it is not US citizens going on a UK website and trying to promote our ideas of freedoms it is fools such as you who are trying to sell the idea that we should give up our first, the second and the fifth amendments freedoms just to start with.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 09:38 am
@BillRM,
Bollocks, I don't give a **** what you do. I get pissed off when a complete buffoon like you claims none of us are free.

All your imagined freedoms are worthless. America locks up more of it's population for much longer, you operate a health care system only for those who can afford it. You're poisoned with additives banned in most civilised countries. Your police carry guns. You can arrested for jaywalking. You're not allowed to buy a beer until you're twenty one, and then you have to hide it in a paper bag. You can be arrested just for being drunk, not drunk and disorderly, just drunk. You're not allowed to gamble. You're all forced to work longer hours with less holidays than the rest of us.

But that's all fine because you can have a gun, and fuckwit like you are you go along with it.

There is one thing that would make me more free though, removing foreign servicemen from UK soil.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 02:10 pm
@izzythepush,
I sure as hell agree with you on removing US military from all foreign soil. Let all you free men fight your own battles and spend your own money doing it.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 12 May, 2013 02:20 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
America locks up more of it's population for much longer, you operate


Strange when I had dare to suggest that we should follow the UK example in the length of criminal sentences in general and in particular in the matter of CP instead of the US model you had called me a pedophile so which way do you wish to go the US model or your nation model?
 

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