ARE A2K MEMBERS LIBERAL, CONSERVATIVE.....

Wilso wrote:

In England it's Labour and Tory, in Oz it's Labour and Liberal, in the US it's Democrat and Republican, Canada????

In Canada, I believe its Labatt's and Windsor. Very Happy

timber

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What about Molsen? Is that a Canadian product (party)? Drunk

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We've got a couple of peripheral parties but Labour and Liberal are the major ones.

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Our liberals in Germany are on the right site of the conservatives as well, but in parliament. As well as the Greens, who form the government with the Social-democrats.

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There's a very consistent theme of opposing ideologies emerging here.

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Let's see - we've got Liberals (who are conservative federally, and slightly moderate provincially); Reformers (conservative federally); the Parti Quebecois (which only exists federally, and is about Quebec splitting from Canada); the Conservative party (moderate federally, more rightish in some provinces), the New Democrat Party (which used to be verging on socialist, but has been disowned by most unions and is pretty much moderate federally, somewhat left of moderate in most provinces). hmmmm who else?

I generally like the division of power - hard to get a majority, so the parties have to find ways to agree to pass legislation. I think it often results in reasonably moderate decision-making. Emphasis on reasonably - as with all politics, there are odd decisions at times - sometimes in unexpected directions.

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Are they al queda Molsens?

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so is Moosehead Green?

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The most hilarious thing i've hear in my life with regard to political parties, is the official name of the Conservative party in Canadia--there, they call them Tories often enough, but the official name is PC, the Progressive Conservatives. Not only do i love the oxymoronic character of the name, but the coindidence of "PC" is rather amusing as well.

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Wow, maxsdadeo ... the concept of Armed Radical Fundamentalist Molsens is chilling!!

timber

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Well, yes, you would want the Molsens chilled . . .

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is this what you guys are talking about? [/color][/b]

that whole molsen's thing had me confused. olsen/molsen/schmolsen, what was that?

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ehBeth wrote:

is this what you guys are talking about? [/color][/b]

that whole molsen's thing had me confused. olsen/molsen/schmolsen, what was that?

That's what we were talking about ehBeth. It was just a bit of silliness.

timber

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i am a critical observer and not belong to the above catergory.
branding the person to a particular sort is not my way.

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Because of my ROBUST love of liberty
I am moven to declare myself a conservative
in that the subject matter of the conservation,
the US Constitution, limits and cripples government,
insofar as interference in domostic matters is concerned.

In other words, the Constitution which is conserved
is an instrument of personal freedom, by crippling domestic government.

This is another way of my declaring myself to be a libertarian.

Personal freedom is inversely proportional to the domestic power of government.

Most of the time,
the Democrat Party shows greater hostility to personal freedom
than do the Republicans.
I will carry the Flag for Goldwater Republicans.

( I will also note that the Bushes were never conservatives. )

David

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David wrote: ( I will also note that the Bushes were never conservatives. )

So few are ready to admit it; it's nice to see that some people are able to see facts for what they are, rather than hiding behind the Bush banner.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

David wrote: ( I will also note that the Bushes were never conservatives. )

So few are ready to admit it;
it's nice to see that some people are able to see facts for what they are,
rather than hiding behind the Bush banner.

I never liked the Bushes.
When Reagan chose Bush
to balance his own conservatism,
I said it was a mistake.

I find very little attraction to the Bush banner,
but the alternatives were much worse in 2000 and 2004.

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The Bushes tried to become another Kennedy, but failed miserably; instead left a legacy for their family name that will live in infamy.

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OmSigDAVID wrote:

Because of my ROBUST love of liberty
I am moven to declare myself a conservative
in that the subject matter of the conservation,
the US Constitution, limits and cripples government,
insofar as interference in domostic matters is concerned.

In other words, the Constitution which is conserved
is an instrument of personal freedom, by crippling domestic government.

This is another way of my declaring myself to be a libertarian.

Personal freedom is inversely proportional to the domestic power of government.

Most of the time,
the Democrat Party shows greater hostility to personal freedom
than do the Republicans.
I will carry the Flag for Goldwater Republicans.

( I will also note that the Bushes were never conservatives. )

David

How funny can one get ~ the deceit of thine own self:

Liberty is of Liberal is of Libertarian.

I am very Consevative, I am a libertarian. I am not a Republican cause they are not.

Government is a necessary evil as is religion. Man is inheriently uncivil, selfish and hostile toward others. The US allows only two parties - Repub and Dem. Libertarians can be in both, and if Rep ~ the Government becomes involved on the side of business (royalty, the rich), if Dem ~ on the side of the people.

The biggest untruth you say is that Dems are hostile toward personal freedoms, such is the lie you believe! Rush loves you......

Government and debt have grown more under GWB and Reagan, individually, than any other Presidents combined. Conservative, to me, is an economic term ~ which is certainly not shown under Republicans. Go figure. Liberty is achieved under social liberalism, liberty, libertarianism.

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BillW, Good post; I agree 100 percent.

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