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Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

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oralloy
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:16 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Sadly, I don't think that the NRA will go down anywhere near as fast as the Titanic. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't be hit from all angles. They are as amoral as Big Tobacco.


As if it were immoral for an organization to champion civil rights?

As for hitting the NRA from all sides, if people who hate civil rights wish to whine at the NRA for their support of civil rights, that will hardly make the members of the NRA regret their support of civil rights.
BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:17 pm
@oralloy,
It is noteworthy that Democratic appointees hate the Constitution. Always vote for Republicans if you care about civil rights.
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Sorry can not do that as the GOP is own by the rich and care little about anyone that can not write them a million dollars plus check.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:21 pm
@BillRM,
You got that backwards. It's the republicans who are against equal treatment of gays, lesbians, minorities, and women. They're the ones who worked on taking away the right for voters to vote. That is a crime against Americans and our Constitution. You're not only blind and stupid, you lack the ability to understand anything that's important in one's life.

MontereyJack
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:21 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy says:
Quote:
It is noteworthy that Democratic appointees hate the Constitution. Always vote for Republicans if you care about civil rights
noteworthy is that Democratic appointees support the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, while Republicans seem to support murder free-for-alls.
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farmerman
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:25 pm
@oralloy,
The NRA only supports 1 civil right, so lets not go getting all virtuous here, youre becoming a bit ofa joke with your hawking and casting.

If you only support Wayne LApierres view then youre short sighted. If you only support the "No guns only crowd" youre suffering from hyperopia. The truth lies with a multi faceted plan.
MontereyJack
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:31 pm
@farmerman,
And the "civil right" NRA supports is not the civil right SCOTUS says it is, nor is it the civil right the Founders put in the 2nd amendment. The NRA maintains the 2nd amendment is unlimited,essentially any gun anywhere anytime with anybody behind the trigger. SCOTUS says the 2nd amendment is NOT ulimited. The two are on a collision course.
cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:34 pm
@MontereyJack,
You,
Quote:
SCOTUS says the 2nd amendment is NOT ulimited.


True - by about 100%.
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farmerman
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:34 pm
@MontereyJack,
Thanks to Heller, the Supremes have made a rather bold statement. Yep you are right on. Maybe thats the "generational first step by cadging some meaningful controls that will pass the "Heller test"
oralloy
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:46 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Sorry can not do that as the GOP is own by the rich and care little about anyone that can not write them a million dollars plus check.


Nonsense.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
They're the ones who worked on taking away the right for voters to vote.


Republicans are doing no such thing. They are only trying to keep the Democrats from cheating in elections.



cicerone imposter wrote:
You're not only blind and stupid, you lack the ability to understand anything that's important in one's life.


You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.
oralloy
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:51 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
The NRA only supports 1 civil right, so lets not go getting all virtuous here, youre becoming a bit of a joke with your hawking and casting.


The NRA is a civil rights organization whether you like it or not.

And they aren't as bad as the ACLU, who actually call for violating the civil rights that they don't support.
oralloy
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:52 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
And the "civil right" NRA supports is not the civil right SCOTUS says it is, nor is it the civil right the Founders put in the 2nd amendment.


Yes it is.



MontereyJack wrote:
The NRA maintains the 2nd amendment is unlimited, essentially any gun anywhere anytime with anybody behind the trigger.


Nonsense.



MontereyJack wrote:
SCOTUS says the 2nd amendment is NOT ulimited. The two are on a collision course.


There is no collision course pending.
oralloy
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 05:54 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Thanks to Heller, the Supremes have made a rather bold statement. Yep you are right on. Maybe thats the "generational first step by cadging some meaningful controls that will pass the "Heller test"


Acknowledging Strict Scrutiny/Intermediate Scrutiny/Rational Basis Review is "bold"???
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spendius
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 06:04 pm
@Val Killmore,
Quote:
Ok Brit, blame it on America, and decline in Christian morality, but a ban on handguns didn't stop criminals to find guns and use them to commit crime, all the while the large majority of the law abiding citizens were unarmed.


Look Killmore--criminals kill each other in the main. They don't go into schools with their guns.

We prefer to be unarmed. The consensus for that probably includes most criminals. If there was a referendum here on the right to bear arms it would lose by a very large majority. And I think the same result would be obtained in all the civilised countries.

It took you lot a few years to bear arms against Hitler and he was already defeated. Kids sitting in desks are more your cup of tea by the sound of it.
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spendius
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 06:09 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
youre becoming a bit of a joke with your hawking and casting.


He sounds like the script for a Dalek to me. Or a recorded message from the sponsors.
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JTT
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 06:13 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
MontereyJack wrote:
And the "civil right" NRA supports is not the civil right SCOTUS says it is, nor is it the civil right the Founders put in the 2nd amendment.



Quote:
Yes it is.


Another brilliant, crushing refutation from Oralboy. There are two more for anyone who wishes to learn debating at the foot of the master.

BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 06:14 pm
@oralloy,
Republicans are doing no such thing. They are only trying to keep the Democrats from cheating in elections
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Like passing laws to interfere with the poor voting in PA to fight a problem of illegal votings that they can not point to one example of.
spendius
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 06:15 pm
@JTT,
I'm hoping he is teaching some others the value of assertions. And where they lead to.
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reasoning logic
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 06:21 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
I don't like the term Moron Mother.


OK so you are being respectful and I admire that, What would you call this kid's mother?


oralloy
 
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Sat 22 Dec, 2012 06:23 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Like passing laws to interfere with the poor voting in PA to fight a problem of illegal votings that they can not point to one example of.


Requiring photo ID is reasonable. It helps prevent the Democrats from cheating.
 

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