Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Which raises again the question: Why are Americans so afraid?

Who says we're afraid?

McTag wrote:

They know the equation: fewer guns, fewer stiffs. But somehow they think the logic doesn't apply to them.

Most people know that that "equation" is an outright fabrication.

Gun availability has very little impact on homicide rates.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Information kindly supplied by H2O MAN

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Militia service is compulsory and integrated with the civil authority

Okay then, so every gun owner should give militia service and be integrated with the civil authority?

No. But the government could compel people in general to join the militia (irrespective of whether any particular person owned a gun).

McTag wrote:

This would be a condition of being able to keep a gun?

No. Non-militia members have the right to carry handguns whenever they go about in public.

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@oralloy,

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Gun availability has very little impact on homicide rates.

It astonishes me that anybody would continually repeat that idiotic notion.

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@oralloy,

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Who says we're afraid?

You do. Bill does. H2O does. Where else do you think Mac got the idea from? Lapierre's suggestion of armed guards in all the places where people gather is derived from fear.

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@spendius,

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It astonishes me that anybody would continually repeat that idiotic notion.

I was going to make a long drawn out post...And backed off...I do not even see a point in discussing this topic any longer...It truly is just wasted energy...

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@spendius,

See next post.

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@spendius,

Although I suppose LaPierre's suggestion may derive from the need* to sell more guns until a situation is established resembling that in Kimberly in the gold and diamond rush, which made the Wild West look like a tea dance at a vicarage in rural Oxfordshire.

But, in that case, he is playing on fear.

*I use "need" literally. As opposed to "want".

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

oralloy wrote:
Gun availability has very little impact on homicide rates.

It astonishes me that anybody would continually repeat that idiotic notion.

The truth is hardly idiotic.

Don't be too astonished by me continuing to tell the truth. That's just what I do.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

Which raises again the question: Why are Americans so afraid?

Have you not been paying attention to what the Obama regime
has done and what they have said they really want to do?

Why are you afraid to dig a little deeper?

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@BillRM,

The information YOU PROVIDED indicates that men over 45 years of age WHO ARE NOT IN THE NATIONAL GUARD...are not part of any militia. The information YOU PROVIDED indicates that women of any age who are not in the National Guard...are not part of any militia.

Is the government allowed to restrict the rights of men over 45 years of age WHO ARE NOT IN THE NATIONAL GUARD...and women of any age who are not in the National Guard, since they are not of a militia, let alone a well-regulated militia?

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http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/January201395/5050_195599170580016_2103281643_n.jpg

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Speaking to the Gun Violence Prevention Working Group, Marshall K. Robinson, the forensic scientist for the Bridgeport, CT Police Department slammed the idea of banning semi auto rifles and high capacity magazines.
Robinson said that since 1996 only 1.5% of the gun crimes he has examined were committed with rifle calibers popularly used in semi automatic rifles. Those shootings could have certainly also included bolt/lever action rifles chambered in the same calibers though.

“In your infinite wisdom, you outlawed bayonet lugs, ﬂash hiders, and collapsible stocks,” he testified. “In over forty years of being a firearm and tool mark examiner, I have never seen these components inﬂict any injury whatsoever on any person. In your infinite wisdom, you outlawed fully automatic firearms that have the capability of firing a single shot. Ladies and gentlemen, I really need help with that one.”

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@H2O MAN,

Here you are H2O--

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Sentimental humanitarians always form a most pernicious body. with an influence for bad hardly surpassed by that of the professional criminal class."

Theodore Roosevelt.

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@H2O MAN,

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In your infinite wisdom, you outlawed fully automatic firearms that have the capability of firing a single shot. Ladies and gentlemen, I really need help with that one.”

Marshall K Robinson cannot be that stupid, and so that remark is deliberately and misleadingly disingenuous, and unworthy of his office.

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@McTag,

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Re: H2O MAN (Post 5244983)

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In your infinite wisdom, you outlawed fully automatic firearms that have the capability of firing a single shot. Ladies and gentlemen, I really need help with that one.”

Marshall K Robinson cannot be that stupid, and so that remark is deliberately and misleadingly disingenuous, and unworthy of his office.

McTag...I think Robinson should have put his period after the word "help" in that final sentence.

Then it would have made sense.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

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In your infinite wisdom, you outlawed fully automatic firearms that have the capability of firing a single shot. Ladies and gentlemen, I really need help with that one.”

Marshall K Robinson cannot be that stupid, and so that remark is deliberately and misleadingly disingenuous, and unworthy of his office.

You make yourself look stupid, McTag, when you deliberately quote only part of what Robinson said.

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@H2O MAN,

If the Second Amendment is really to enable ordinary Americans to overthrow an unjust government, we must take cognisance of the changes which have taken place since the 1770s, when people, as my learned friend pointed out, were still wiping their arses on dock leaves.

To enable this aim to be credible, since the days of muzzle-loading flintlocks and cavalry sabres, we have to to consider helicopter gunships, remote-control drones, strike aircraft and aircraft carriers, goodness a whole Air Force, saying nothing of theatre atomic weapons and germ warfare agents. For reasons of brevity I'll leave much off that list.

So come on guys, get serious, you are a tad underpowered as yet.

Or maybe the law, and the Amendment, is a bit out-of-date and fairly risible in some of its interpretations?

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@H2O MAN,

Bridgeport, CT police department?

This is a scene-shot when a man was being pursued by Bridgeport, CT, police department officers following reports that he had a gun:

He didn't have one but an empty holster (reported by media and video on youtube as of 27 January 2013).

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@spendius,

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Re: oralloy (Post 5244827)
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Gun availability has very little impact on homicide rates.

It astonishes me that anybody would continually repeat that idiotic notion.

Even when it happen to be a true statement of facts.

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@spendius,

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You do. Bill does. H2O does. Where else do you think Mac got the idea from? Lapierre's suggestion of armed guards in all the places where people gather is derived from fear.

Fear and common sense is not one and the same thing my friend.

The UK monitor it citizens with thousands of thousands of cameras all over the place and that seems a fearful thing to do and a police state in the work thing to do as a matter of fact.

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