Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

@hawkeye10,

They may not, but their labor force will and it's hard to ship anything when the trucks tires are flat.

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@hawkeye10,

Imagine a DC sniper team that blows out the tires of big rigs as they approach the city.

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@H2O MAN,

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They may not, but their labor force will and it's hard to ship anything when the trucks tires are flat.

my kin on my mom's side are all rural, but I dont get the sense it would come to that. we have lots of prison cells, and the government loves to use them, a fact that will cross the mind before aim is taken.

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@hawkeye10,

No doubt that some will chicken out, but there are plenty of Americans that will step up.

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@hawkeye10,

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we get ruthless about teaching this crowd that they work for us,

Go on then. How do you do get ruthless? "This crowd" has collectivised agriculture better than Joe Stalin did. Agriculture is totally dependent on machinery supplies, fertilisers, pesticides, transportation, food processing, entertainment and fashions. Most of which are owned by the "corporate classes" and powerless small shareholders interested only in dividends and share price increases. It is probably dependent now on tariffs to avoid it being wiped out by foreign suppliers and the up-coming clearing of the rain forests in very fertile regions.

Agriculture is already restricting output to prevent gluts and giveaway prices. Which the "corporate classes" have organised. The farmers could never manage that on their own.

You would get an Amish situation only across most of the nation. Europe could feed the urban east coast. California can make one movie and swap it for I don't know how many boat loads of grain/rice/pasta/fruit/veg and bloody caviar. Fresh milk from the Himalayan goat if that is what the urban palate demands.

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@parados,

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Who want no restrictions on weapons

Strawman, I never said I wanted no restrictions on weapons. I'm fine with the current restriction on guns. And I'd be more than happy to see the current laws being enforced stricter.

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No. Why would you think so? Are you arguing that "arms" in the Constitution is restricted to only certain types of weapons?

What were you saying? "What you think and what others see are often quite different." And I thought in such a way because of how you spun the question "We wouldn't possibly want to keep certain types of weapons out the hands of certain people." It seemed to me that you were implying something in relation to nuclear armaments or WMD. As if you were comparing guns to WMD. Good that we cleared that up then. Anyway, yes I believe "arms" in the Constitution is restricted to only certain types of weapons. The courts have made it clear. I'm not here to petition for my right to own a fully automatic machine gun and to challenge the federal law, now am I?

Parados wrote:

Now perhaps you can start to answer my questions.

Which questions haven't I answered?

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@H2O MAN,

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They may not, but their labor force will and it's hard to ship anything when the trucks tires are flat.

Then interfering with tires becomes a summary execution like with looters. See how that goes.

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@spendius,

The drivers will not be harmed.

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@H2O MAN,

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Imagine a DC sniper team that blows out the tires of big rigs as they approach the city.

Which would be attempted murder if the trucks were moving and in some cases actual murder.

You've got insurrectionitis whilst strapped into you baby walker or unable to get out of your rocking chair.

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@spendius,

LOL!!

Is it attempted murder when the police try and shoot the tires out on a suspects car?

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@Val Killmore,

Since you agree we can restrict certain arms then that means we can restrict certain arms under the US Constitution. Now the only argument you have left is you want to draw the line somewhere different then the courts have drawn it.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

No doubt that some will chicken out, but there are plenty of Americans that will step up.

Yeah.. like all those that showed up at WACO when the call went out. They all chickened out in the end.

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@parados,

parasite ... Confused

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@parados,

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Yeah.. like all those that showed up at WACO when the call went out. They all chickened out in the end.

MY LORD You do know that the Oklahoma bombing was done as a pay back over Waco or don't you?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Within 90 minutes of the explosion, Timothy McVeigh was stopped by Oklahoma State Trooper Charlie Hanger for driving without a license plate and arrested for unlawfully carrying a weapon.[8][9] Forensic evidence quickly linked McVeigh and Terry Nichols to the attack; Nichols was arrested,[10] and within days both were charged. Michael and Lori Fortier were later identified as accomplices. McVeigh, an American militia movement sympathizer who was a Gulf War veteran, had detonated an explosive-filled Ryder rental truck parked in front of the building. McVeigh's co-conspirator, Terry Nichols, had assisted in the bomb preparation. Motivated by his hatred of the federal government and angered by what he perceived as its mishandling of the Waco Siege (1993) and the Ruby Ridge incident (1992), McVeigh timed his attack to coincide with the second anniversary of the deadly fire that ended the siege at Waco.[11][12]

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@H2O MAN,

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Is it attempted murder when the police try and shoot the tires out on a suspects car?

You will have to ask a judge about that H2O. Since when has a truck driver taking food into cities been a "suspect"?

How many tires could you shoot out before the National Guard is turned out. I suppose the NG is the evolved version of the militia the FFs mentioned in the 2nd. How long does it take to change a tire? How many trucks could be diverted from hauling toilet tissue? (The FFs hadn't a lot of that).

What you should do is admit that you just like guns because they do give you your Man Card back as the expert psychologists who advise advertisers must have discovered. We can all understand that. One of our intrepid female war correspondents got her Man Card the other day sat in the back of a French Foreign Legion tank driving along a track in very rural Mali. Whether the tank commander and his crewman gave her one when they parked up I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised though. Have you ever met up with company of the French Foreign Legion?

Nobody can understand shooting tires out on rolling trucks thinking something won't be done about it in short order.

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@BillRM,

Sadly, both the Ruby Ridge murders (1992), and the Waco murders (1993) were
terrible actions perpetrated by the US government against American citizens.

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@spendius,

No, I don't need to ask any judge about that.

Chances are good that the drivers would simply
park their rigs or divert to friendly locations.

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@spendius,

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Then interfering with tires becomes a summary execution like with looters. See how that goes.

Not a good idea in any large scale civil conflict as to do so will get the other side killing any government agents that fall into their hands.

The south were going to killed any black troops and their officers that they would capture and was told by the North that if they did so an equal number of Confederate prisoners would be killed.

As posted before the Waco raid and fire resulted in the blowing up of the Oklahoma Federal building where the ATF and FBI that took part in the raid were base.

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@BillRM,

And that worked out really well for McVeigh. He certainly overthrew the US government. Laughing

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@H2O MAN,

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No, I don't need to ask any judge about that.

Oh but you do old chap. Your assertion that you don't is not dissimilar to a bat's squeak in a hurricane.

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Chances are good that the drivers would simply
park their rigs or divert to friendly locations.

Where might they be? The jobs shop or the food handout tent?

Let us not forget that you are cutting off the food supplies to the cities. We needn't get bogged down with judges if city food supplies are cut off.

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