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Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

 
 
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 4 Jan, 2013 02:38 pm
@H2O MAN,
What does that prove?
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spendius
 
  1  
Fri 4 Jan, 2013 02:40 pm
@H2O MAN,
Repeat. A few times might work.
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BillRM
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 03:15 pm
@spendius,
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What does that mean?

Are you a bit soft in the head Bill?



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hingehead
 
  1  
Fri 4 Jan, 2013 04:39 pm
@Val Killmore,
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Some actors in this video demanding a "plan" to end gun violence are ******* hypocrites, as they play characters in movies which partake in graphic gun violence.

Yeah, that makes sense. Anyone who has played Hitler should pay war reparations and be sentenced to death. Get a grip.
parados
 
  1  
Fri 4 Jan, 2013 05:03 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:

So what if some of the people now use one type of weapon over another?

Are you afraid to answer which is more dangerous at 20 feet: gun, knife, or gasoline?
If you can't even agree that a gun is more dangerous because it can kill from a distance then there is no way we can have a reasonable discussion.
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reasoning logic
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 05:05 pm
@Val Killmore,
Quote:
Some actors in this video demanding a "plan" to end gun violence are ******* hypocrites, as they play characters in movies which partake in graphic gun violence.


Very good point.
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RABEL222
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 05:46 pm
@Val Killmore,
How many of your animals are just wounded and wonder off to die. But 1000 yards is impressive.
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spendius
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 06:04 pm
@BillRM,
I was referring to animals that don't "bleed out in short order". It has the look of being soft in the head when you answer as you did.

Treading on a thorn can kill them slowly.

Are arrowheads allowed in abattoirs?
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H2O MAN
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 09:30 pm


Woman hiding with kids shoots intruder

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2013/01/04/c2/d8/Paul_Slater.jpg
reasoning logic
 
  0  
Fri 4 Jan, 2013 09:35 pm
@H2O MAN,
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If I had a son, he could look like Trayvon,


Are you a black man H20MAN?
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Fri 4 Jan, 2013 09:45 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Quote:
If I had a son, he could look like Trayvon,


Are you a black man H20MAN?


Only from the waist down and the knees up, why?
reasoning logic
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 10:10 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Only from the waist down and the knees up, why?


Are you saying that it has been a long time since you washed your dick?
firefly
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 10:24 pm
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Gabrielle Giffords meets with families of Newtown shooting victims
The Associated Press
The Dallas Morning News
04 January 2013

NEWTOWN, Conn. — Nearly two years after being critically wounded in a mass shooting, former Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords on Friday met with families of victims in last month's shooting that left 26 people dead inside a Connecticut elementary school.

Giffords was accompanied by her husband, astronaut Mark Kelly, at the private meeting in Newtown that was also attended by U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal.

"As always, I was deeply impressed by the strength and courage and resolve of the families and the extraordinary caring and generosity of Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly in visiting with them," Blumenthal said.

Giffords, a Democrat, met earlier in the day with officials including Connecticut's lieutenant governor and Newtown's first selectman.

Giffords was left partially blind, with a paralyzed right arm and brain injury, when a gunman opened fire at a constituent meet-and-greet outside a Tucson grocery store on Jan. 8, 2011. Arizona's chief federal judge and five others were killed and 13 people, including Giffords, were injured.

The gunman, Jared Lee Loughner, pleaded guilty to 19 federal charges and was sentenced to seven consecutive life sentences, plus 140 years.

Kelly has become a vocal advocate for gun control in recent months, most notably at Loughner's sentencing in November. He lashed out at politicians for avoiding a "meaningful debate" about gun laws and called out Arizona Republicans, including the governor, for taking a pro-gun stance in the months after the shooting.

"As a nation we have repeatedly passed up the opportunity to address the issue. After Columbine, after Virginia Tech, after Tucson and after Aurora, we have done nothing," he told the court.

He has issued strongly worded statements many times since the massacre in Connecticut, including a harsh response to the National Rifle Association's reaction to the shooting. He often begins statements with "Gabby and I" as he makes pointed comments about the direction of the gun debate in America.

Kelly said on the day of the Newtown shooting that it should lead to better gun control.

"This time our response must consist of more than regret, sorrow, and condolence," Kelly said on his Facebook page, calling for "a meaningful discussion about our gun laws and how they can be reformed and better enforced to prevent gun violence and death in America."

Blumenthal said he is eager to find allies as he pursues tougher gun control laws.

"I'm hopeful that everyone who cares about this issue or has a stake in it will be active in supporting our effort in gun violence prevention legislatively," he said.

Giffords' visit came one day after Connecticut Gov. Dannel P. Malloy announced the creation of an advisory commission that will review and recommend changes to state laws and policies on issues including gun control in the wake of the Dec. 14 rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

The gunman, Adam Lanza, shot and killed his mother, then drove to the school and slaughtered 20 first-graders and six educators before committing suicide as police arrived.

Giffords has appeared in public a few times since the shooting. She came face-to-face with Loughner when he was sentenced and attended ceremonies for the anniversary of the shooting.

She received tributes and ovations when she returned to the House in January 2012 to say goodbye as she resigned her seat and she delivered the Pledge of Allegiance at the Democratic National Convention in September.

President Barack Obama invoked the Tucson and Newtown elementary school shootings when he spoke at Newtown shortly after the attack. He said four shootings, including those two plus the attacks at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin and at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., marked his first term in office.

A recent Pew Research Center report says gun policy accounted for almost 30 percent of discussions examined on blogs and Twitter in the three days after the school massacre. It compares the response to the Newtown rampage with the Arizona shooting, saying that in the three days after that, just 3 percent of social media conversation was about gun laws.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20130104-gabrielle-giffords-meets-with-families-of-newtown-shooting-victims.ece

Val Killmore
 
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Fri 4 Jan, 2013 11:09 pm
@firefly,
The interesting part of the story about Gabby Giffords was that Loughner who tried to kill her and successfully killed a dozen others was actually stopped by a Walmart clerk from buying bullets. Clerks are allowed deny someone purchase of a gun or bullets if they deem them as suspicious. Loughner just went to another Walmart store 6 miles away and was able to get the ammunition he needed. If there was a uniform alert to all gun stores and Walmart stores to blocked his purchase, those dozen people would be alive today and saved others from being wounded. Its easy to setup such a system, and such a system is used by credit card companies; they have uniformed alerts to block stolen cards from being used across the whole country, and it works instantly.

And is Gabby visiting these people privately on an invitation? I say that because I don't see why she needs to rekindle this tragedy for the people of Newtown. What about having a shooter reunion in Arizona? Sounds cold but she needs to stop and think what she is rekindling. Does America want to see the wounded vets parading over gun rights? she needs to let it be instead of bringing more tears and pain to people effected in this tragedy.

On a sick note it sounds like a parent of six year old surviving child of this shooting is now taking actions to sue the state for $100 mill. What a piece of greedy ****! I suppose the parents of the dead children in this tragedy are sickened by this, as I'm sure that they'd prefer to have their children survive the tragedy and be alive, albeit the trauma suffered.
hawkeye10
 
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Sat 5 Jan, 2013 12:05 am
@Val Killmore,
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And is Gabby visiting these people privately on an invitation? I say that because I don't see why she needs to rekindle this tragedy for the people of Newtown. What about having a shooter reunion in Arizona? Sounds cold but she needs to stop and think what she is rekindling. Does America want to see the wounded vets parading over gun rights? she needs to let it be instead of bringing more tears and pain to people effected in this tragedy.

if she was a stand up gal she never would have kept a house seat for about a year that she clearly never was going to return to. this husband/wife team are shameless self promoters who are milking our victim culture like seasoned pro's.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 5 Jan, 2013 12:15 am
@Val Killmore,
I'm not about to champion law suits that arise from the Newtown Massacre, but you may be unduly harsh as respects the parents who have launched one.

First of all, I will bet every penny I have that these parents have not filed the lawsuit pro se, and if I am right then there is a bottom feeding, parasitic trial lawyer who is representing them, and very probably made a grand effort to convince them that their grief and outrage demanded a legal action.

I will also bet every penny I have that all of the parents of the kids who were killed have been beset by an avalanche of solicitations from bottom feeding trial lawyers.

Sometimes, for the plaintiffs and not their lawyers, litigation is not about money. Often times, when a child is injured or killed, it is a way for parents to attempt to exonerate themselves.

It's hard to imagine any of the parent in Newtown feeling guilty about what happened, but it's not hard to imagine them feeling rage and a desire to see someone who is not insane held accountable.

They may indeed be greedy shits, as there is sadly no shortage of such shits who seek to profit monetarily from the injury or death of their children, but I wouldn't be so quick to cast them as such.

There are other credible explanations for this law suit.


hingehead
 
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Sat 5 Jan, 2013 01:27 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Thanks for explaining much better than I could what I was thinking - especially the 'rage' bit of grief.
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McTag
 
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Sat 5 Jan, 2013 02:31 am
@Val Killmore,

Quote:
because I don't see why she needs to rekindle this tragedy for the people of Newtown. What about having a shooter reunion in Arizona? Sounds cold but she needs to stop and think what she is rekindling. Does America want to see the wounded vets parading over gun rights? she needs to let it be


Yeah, why can't we just forget about it?
hawkeye10
 
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Sat 5 Jan, 2013 02:48 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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There are other credible explanations for this law suit.

no, there are not.
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oralloy
 
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Sat 5 Jan, 2013 06:01 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
oralloy wrote:
McTag wrote:
BillRM wrote:
As everyone had ask you over and over and over how is one manner of attacked worst then another???????


Why are you banging on about this?


Probably because other people keep banging on about "gun deaths" as if it made some sort of difference that they were killed with a gun as opposed to some other way.


No, oralloy, it's because those people in that school were killed by guns.


They'd be less dead if they were killed with knives?



firefly wrote:
It's because we had an unacceptably high number of mass shootings last year.


It would be much more acceptable if they were killed with knives instead?



firefly wrote:
It's hard to talk about gun violence of that sort without acknowledging the reality that guns--rather than other weapons--were involved.

If you want to decrease the number of people killed by auto accidents, you don't focus on the number of deaths caused by drownings or other causes.


Auto accidents are caused by the presence of autos.

Gun-related murders are caused by the presence of murderers.

Now, if you want to talk gun accidents alone, then you might have a plausible case that guns were an issue. (Gun safety is always a good idea.)



firefly wrote:
People were horrified by this tragedy--that saw 20 six and seven year olds each killed with multiple gunshots.

Yes, in order to discuss this incident, it is necessary to admit that guns were used.

In order to address our country's problem with gun violence, it is necessary to admit we are talking about deaths and woundings caused by guns.


You aren't talking about deaths and woundings caused by guns.

You are talking about deaths and woundings caused by murderers.
 

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