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Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 07:53 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

The only way to reduce gun related violence is to have more citizens armed in more places. We need to do away with these ridiculous 'gun free zones' that are magnets for mentally disturbed individuals. We need to allow the people to defend themselves and others - this is America and Americans use guns.
YES. Well said





David
McTag
 
  1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 08:27 am
@H2O MAN,

Quote:
Americans use guns


Yes. We are concentrating our efforts to find out why, since it's such a bad practice.
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 08:27 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
They wanted a system where the federal government nearly always had to use the militia as their main source of strength.


We ran into a serous problem with depending on militia in the War of 1812 as a numbers of state governors refused to allowed their states forces to invaded Canada.

Another example, is when some armed soldiers and former soldiers marched on Congress then sitting in Philadelphia and the governor of PA refused to call out the state militia and congress was force to flee to NJ.
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firefly
 
  1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 08:35 am
Quote:
Woman shot to death after bumping into scooter
Dec 05, 2012
By JEFF MARTIN
Associated Press

ATLANTA (AP) - Authorities say a woman bumped into a scooter with her car at a central Georgia gas station, leading to a brief burst of gunfire that claimed her life.

Macon police say she was shot to death Tuesday afternoon, in what they describe as a random encounter.

Police say 65-year-old Linda Hunnicutt's car bumped into a scooter operated by a 73-year-old man.

Police say Hunnicutt stepped out of her Buick Lucerne and briefly exchanged words with him. They say he drew a gun and shot her once in the chest.

Police say the suspect, Frank Louis Reeves, was apprehended in the parking lot. He was being held on a murder charge at the Bibb County Jail. Police didn't know whether he has an attorney, and jail records do not list one
http://www.wtvm.com/story/20266139/2012/12/05/woman-shot-to-death-after-bumping-into-scooter



Quote:
One dead, 6 others shot at Majestic Sports Bar on New Year's Day
Jan 02, 2013

COLUMBUS, GA (WTVM) -
A night of celebrating for many turned deadly early Tuesday morning. Shots rang out at Majestic Sports Bar on Cusseta Road in Columbus at about 2:30 a.m. after ringing in the New Year.

Investigators said two shootings took place at the crowded bar, one inside and the other outside. In all, seven people were shot.

One victim, 24-year-old Charles Foster Jr., succumbed to his injuries an hour later at the Medical Center, according to Muscogee County Deputy Coroner Charles Newton.

Foster, a Columbus-native, was shot once in the left upper chest. His body will be sent to Atlanta for autopsy Thursday.

Lt. Joyner said multiple shots were fired inside the bar, "…at least 12 to 15 shots." Outside, a man was shot while sitting inside a car.

The victims were taken to the Medical Center with non life-threatening injuries. Authorities told News Leader 9 three were treated and released, and two sustained injuries that required surgery.

Witnesses told police, the inside shooter was a black man with a low haircut, wearing a brown work suit.

Another man was seen running from the scene with the shooter. Police believe the second man to be the outside shooter.

At this time, police do not have the suspect in custody. They are also unsure of a motive.
Copyright 2013 WTVM. All rights reserved.

http://www.wtvm.com/story/20478186/majestic-sports-bar-shooting


Yes, this is America, and Americans use guns. Perhaps the NRA should suggest that every American wear bullet-proof body armor when they leave their home....
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 08:49 am
@firefly,
Quote:
Perhaps the NRA should suggest that every American wear bullet-proof body armor when they leave their home....


Or that they don't leave their home unless strictly necessary. (To go to work). In which case bullet-proof body armour sounds reasonably sensible. There are a few left over and stand on display in some of our heritage sites.

H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 08:55 am
@spendius,


Perhaps the government should enforce some of the existing laws instead of passing new ones.
Perhaps the government should look at the criminal element instead of focusing their attention on law abiding citizens.
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 08:56 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:

The only way to reduce gun related violence is to have more citizens armed in more places. We need to do away with these ridiculous 'gun free zones' that are magnets for mentally disturbed individuals. We need to allow the people to defend themselves and others - this is America and Americans use guns.
YES. Well said

David


Thank you!
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 08:58 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:


Is it the background check used in buying a gun according to this process?

http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/514_54/a8.html
You need this (a "Waffenerwerbsschein") for ANY weapon which you want to buy in Switzerland.

For just one weapon, as specified in article 9b of the same law.

To get an allowance to buy all the arms you frequently mention (the "forbidden weapons" ['verbotene Waffen'], see article 5 of that law, you can try this via the canton, which all have different laws/by-laws to regulate such.
http://i48.tinypic.com/25svn7a.jpg
This additional and extra licence is for just one single weapon, too (even for 1 knife!). And additionally to the "Waffenerwerbsschein", you have to give an exact description of the weapon and name the seller. Further, your municipality has to answer (on at least[!] pages), their opinion about you and your answers in your request for getting a "Ausnahmebewilligung".

As said that differs from canton to canton. The most restrictive is the Republic and Canton of Geneva.
spendius
 
  -2  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:05 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Perhaps the government should look at the criminal element instead of focusing their attention on law abiding citizens.


But the government, of necessity, thinks of the whole population as criminals. That's why the books on a lawyer's shelves take up so much room.

Every single line of which restricts "freedom".

If the government banned all private guns then the gun owners who didn't hand their weapons in when ordered to would be criminals. And if they sought to fight the ban with force it would be treason.
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:09 am
@firefly,
Quote:
Yes, this is America, and Americans use guns. Perhaps the NRA should suggest that every American wear bullet-proof body armor when they leave their home....


ATLANTA (AP) - Authorities say a woman bumped into a scooter with her car at a central Georgia gas station, leading to a brief burst of gunfire that claimed her life. Macon police say she was shot to death Tuesday afternoon, in what they describe as a random encounter.





Yes, Firefly people shoot people at gas stations they also pour gasoline on them and set them on fired.

As everyone had ask you over and over and over how is one manner of attacked worst then another???????

footnote the last I hear his chances of surviving are small and the pain he happen to be in in the mean time is a version of hell.

Second comment maybe we should all wear flame proof outfits also.

You are a silly woman indeed as for every killings/attacks by firearms there are killings/attacks by others means and I would myself must prefer to be shot then burned to the degree this man had been burn.



Quote:
Miami Man Doused In Gasoline At Station, Set On Fire
Dec 28, 2012 10 By Hannington Dia
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A man pumping gas at a station in Miami was doused with gasoline and set on fire Tuesday night, according to the Miami Herald.
SEE ALSO: The Year Democrats Got Their Groove Back
44-year-old Darrell Brackett (pictured) sustained third-degree burns in the attack and is fighting for his life at a local hospital.
Thursday afternoon, Bennett’s mother distributed flyers at the station, hoping somebody with information on who attacked her son will come forward.
“We are trying to think positive, but the next three days will be critical,’’ Bridgett Brackett said.
SEE ALSO: How Do The Obamas ‘Keep The Fire Going?’
Brackett and his girlfriend had stopped at the U-Gas station in Brownsville after running out of fuel. Around 11:30 p.m., a man approached Brackett, grabbed the gas can he was carrying, and doused him in the liquid before setting him on fire. Brackett ran into the street, where a Good Samaritan helped him into a grassy area where he dropped and rolled until the flames were out. Almost 50 percent of his body was covered in burns.
SEE ALSO: ‘Rescue Me’ Singer Fontella Bass Dies At 72
Miami-Dade authorities are investigating the incident as a potential homicide, thought they have no leads as of this writing. It has been reported that Brackett had some brief words with some men prior to the attack, but it is not known if they played a role or if this was a random assault.
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:14 am
@spendius,


What the government has been doing is criminal and the great additional harm Obama plans for this county is tantamount to treason.
BillRM
 
  1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:22 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
great additional harm Obama plans for this county is tantamount to treason.


I would strongly suggest you would be far better off to focus on guns rights instead of adding irrational attacks on Obama as there are one hell of a lot of armed gun supporters on the left that you and others like minded individuals tend to turn off by doing so.

Of course it come down to what you care about more attacking Obama or defending guns rights they are not one and the same thing for the most part.

jcboy
 
  2  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:36 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



What the government has been doing is criminal and the great additional harm Obama plans for this county is tantamount to treason.


Please explain what exactly Obama has done to constitute treason. Go ahead I’ll wait. Razz
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DrewDad
 
  3  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:52 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Anything to disprove the implications of a connection between increased abortion and decreased crime.

You might want to look into the whole "correlation is not causation" thing again.
oralloy
 
  0  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:53 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
oralloy wrote:
Is it the background check used in buying a gun according to this process?

http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/514_54/a8.html


You need this (a "Waffenerwerbsschein") for ANY weapon which you want to buy in Switzerland.

For just one weapon, as specified in article 9b of the same law.


It is not required in order to buy bolt-action rifles of a design once used by the Swiss military, or double-barrel shotguns.

It is only required for the purchase of these weapons:
http://i48.tinypic.com/9a48ew.jpg






Walter Hinteler wrote:
To get an allowance to buy all the arms you frequently mention (the "forbidden weapons" ['verbotene Waffen'], see article 5 of that law, you can try this via the canton, which all have different laws/by-laws to regulate such.
http://i48.tinypic.com/25svn7a.jpg
This additional and extra licence is for just one single weapon, too (even for 1 knife!). And additionally to the "Waffenerwerbsschein", you have to give an exact description of the weapon and name the seller.


The "forbidden weapons" are things like bazookas and belt-fed machine guns.

Those rules are not for these weapons:
http://i48.tinypic.com/9a48ew.jpg
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DrewDad
 
  2  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:53 am
@firefly,
Obviously, we need to arm the bartenders.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:55 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:
H2O MAN wrote:
Americans use guns


Yes. We are concentrating our efforts to find out why, since it's such a bad practice.


It is only a bad practice for serfs to carry guns.

Americans aren't serfs.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 09:57 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Of course it come down to what you care about more attacking Obama or defending guns rights they are not one and the same thing for the most part.


They are pretty close to being the same, given Obama's great desire to violate the Second Amendment.
DrewDad
 
  2  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 10:01 am
@DrewDad,
The data is pretty interesting:

Quote:
Most of the theories have been long on intuition and short on evidence. Nevin says his data not only explain the decline in crime in the 1990s, but the rise in crime in the 1980s and other fluctuations going back a century. His data from multiple countries, which have different abortion rates, police strategies, demographics and economic conditions, indicate that lead is the only explanation that can account for international trends.

Because the countries phased out lead at different points, they provide a rigorous test: In each instance, the violent crime rate tracks lead poisoning levels two decades earlier.

"It is startling how much mileage has been given to the theory that abortion in the early 1970s was responsible for the decline in crime" in the 1990s, Nevin said. "But they legalized abortion in Britain, and the violent crime in Britain soared in the 1990s. The difference is our gasoline lead levels peaked in the early '70s and started falling in the late '70s, and fell very sharply through the early 1980s and was virtually eliminated by 1986 or '87.
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parados
 
  3  
Thu 3 Jan, 2013 10:06 am
@BillRM,
Quote:

As everyone had ask you over and over and over how is one manner of attacked worst then another???????

In one case you can be killed from 20 feet away. In the other case, if you are 20 feet away, nothing will happen to you.

Is that simple enough for you Bill?

The thing about guns is they seem to make their owners brain dead, unlike knives, cars, and gasoline.
 

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