@cornelljdav,
cornelljdav wrote:
I am very very sorry about this story but I typed it on my phone and didn't do a good but I hope you can understand it enough to help me. Here it goes.
I'm going to go over the parts where I think you messed up.
cornelljdav wrote:
The girl I like name Mayra Yea I know. Listen she found out I like her bcuz i told her friend i like her n she wanted to talk about it. She never did.
Bad move. Why? It shows you lack confidence. You shouldn't have told her friend. You should have told her. Talking to her friends only shows you don't have the guts to tell her yourself.
cornelljdav wrote:
I asked y she didn't she said she froze up. Like y she freeze up she got a man like it was strange. She didn't know I know she know I liked her so she said she will talk to me later bout it. She hide behind a asile (I work at meijer) and asked of I had anything to tell her, I'm like nah bcuz it was more I wanted to say not confess. So we ended up talking bout it n she adimtted to liking me n was upset she found out I like her from everyone else but me.
She even admits that you messed up because everyone else knew you liked her except her. Shows you are gutless. Women are attracted to confidence and the more confidence you show the more attractive you will appear. This is your first major mistake.
cornelljdav wrote:
So I was like how bout we act like u never found out n I will tell u another time. She said okay. I still haven't but I did kinds offer my number.
Another bad move. Offering your number shows that you have no confidence in calling her or initiating conversation. You should have gotten her number instead and told her when you were going to call her. Mistake number two.
cornelljdav wrote:
I said if I gave u my number wud u text me she like no bcuz her man wont like that n she wouldn't want him doing the same to another girl.
I bet this was just her way of saying she didn't like the idea. She might have had a boyfriend but so what? He probably got her number and called her instead of trying to make her call you.
cornelljdav wrote:
She said we good friends tho. So I fell back. Her n her friend the one I told I like her not close no more n since then she been acting like well at least I think she like me I understand everything you said. That?s fine. All that happen 4 months ago. This the next thing that happen. I walked her to her car she stood n the cold n talked to me for like ten minutes then left. Then I walked her to her car again n again another 10 minute conversation but before she left I asked her what she asked me and it was did she have anything she wanted to tell me she like no no I don?t think so n left I?m a nice Guy I mean both those times she waited on me to punch out of work and she walked with me out. I never wait on her I always leave.
You are missing major opportunities here. The fact that she would walk you out and you would just ignore her and leave on your days you got off early or before her was a good move but you blew it when you actually spent that time with her when she waited for you. You were aloof but you didn't initiate anything to let her know you were interested in her.
cornelljdav wrote:
I know she has a man and I know if I wait for her she will think I?m trynna make a move that?s why I only walk out with her bcuz she waits for me. She also Parks near me so its not so much walking her to her car its just my car that way This happen next. Her bday was may first. Which was a Tuesday and this happened Tuesday night. So her bday was this week n Again I walked her out to her car bit this time she sped up n got n her car real fast. I mean I think she ain?t wanna have nothing serious on her mind on bday so I wasnt to surprised she got in her car fast It gets interesting after this The day after her bday. She talked to me for a hour after work bro. She checked her phone alot but NEVER texted no one back just kept looking at it like she was checking the time then she would put it away.
More than likely you weren't being interesting enough and this was her way of entertaining herself. I bet she sped up to get to her car on her bday so she wouldn't have to invite you out if you had asked what she was up to for her bday. She wanted to avoid having that discussion with you and not give you a mercy invite to what ever she was doing. Fail number 3.
cornelljdav wrote:
I know someone had to hit her up bcuz I got hit up alot. But yea we got off at 11 n talked to 12 alone n the parking lot. She like we been talking for a hour. I?m like is that a bad thing? She ain?t say nothing then I was like I don?t got nothing better to so if u wanna kept talking I?m down she said she was tired so she smiled and said talk u tomorrow n left
Another bad move. You made yourself look desperate by saying you had nothing better to do or nothing else to do. Although from your perspective you probably thought it was a compliment to her but in fact it's not. You look like a loser who has all the time in the world to hang out in a parking lot and have a meaningless conversation. Sure you might have found out some stuff about her but you didn't do it in any meaningful way.
cornelljdav wrote:
Look bro what I did. Well Not really I tried to avoid her the whole day but last 10 minutes she called n asked me foe help. Besides that it was good. My purpose of avoiding her was to see if she will want to see me n by her asking me for help made it clear she had to see me at least once today. Almost went the whole day without seeing her n she called n asked for help from me. Could have called someone else but Noooooooooooo had to be me.
Not a bad idea of trying to avoid her but she called you for help? This is more of a friend move from her point of view. She's testing to see what she can get from you without having to add anything to her relationship with you. You probably said alright and went running to the rescue. I haven't read on so I'll just assume that you did and say bad move.
cornelljdav wrote:
Its all good tho. I still like her but that was just a test to see if could go a day without seeing me yea she couldn?t lol Oh yea and there was two times worked together and for out at the same time and I didn?t wait on her how she does for me. I don?t want her to think I?m trynna make a move on her so I left both times without waiting on her. And last week I left again without waiting on her.
Not bad but you are not getting any where with her. You have missed opportunities to make your relationship with her more meaningful and you think you are getting somewhere with continued dodging? As soon as you go in for the pay off from being aloof you fail to deliver what she is looking for so how is being aloof helping you when you don't commit to actually liking her? You say that you don't want her to think you are trying to make a move, well she probably wanted you to and you missed those chances.
cornelljdav wrote:
I sat on the bench and was on my phone on the internet and she came out asked what I was doing smiled and said bye and left I was telling a Guy friend about mayra and everyone who got hired since he left. He came there one day and seen.mayra and said Sooooooooooooooooo your mayra?! Like that was so dumb bcuz I thought right then and there she would catch that I told him about her luckily me she was giving me a call for a customer so I got the chance to walk away. Thought she would forget about but the next day she confronted me and asked how that Guy new her name. All I told her was he use to work here. She just said that was weird. I.mean we wear name tags but how he said made it seem like someone spoke about her that's why she asked if I knew how he knew her name.
Another really bad move. Telling your friends about her and this sort of thing happening. Don't think she's stupid, she probably knew or figured it out and wanted to test to see what you would say or confirm her suspicions. You blew it again because you lied to her to cover up for something completely unimportant. Which is why she answered with weird. Wierd means that your story doesn't match the one she has figured out. She probably suspected you of lying at that moment.
cornelljdav wrote:
She wasn't mad asking it was a happy confused wondering look on her face Look I was on lunch buying sunin out the vending machine. She was back there bcuz she talking with r manager. So I'm putting my coins n making a selection n she come out after her convo with the manager over n look to c who was at the machine n once she realized it was me she asked was I on lunch n was everything alright n said u look sad n once I half way told her I was jus like WA like I'm good n she like smiled and walked away before I finished telling her. She said she was jus asking.
You missed another perfect opportunity here to take your relationship to another level but your answers to her were not inviting in any way that she was looking for which is why she left.
cornelljdav wrote:
while we were working together. She like why are you so quiet? I?m like why are you? She said bcuz I am, I said so bcuz I?m quiet you gone be quiet? She said yea. Then I started talking then she did and it was good. Sh was suppose to leave work at 10:30 and i got out at 11. but ok thinking either she forgot, wanted the extra pay or wanted to work with me alone bcuz I was the only one left. And once it was time to go she was heading out the door and I walked pass she said hurry up Cornell. I?m guessing she wanted to walk out with me but I didn?tmove as fast as she would like but she did say bye from a distance
Not bad, but you missed another opportunity to making something more meaningful. You should have confronted her on why she was staying late putting her into a corner, she would either have to lie or tell you what her reasons were. Even if she said to get some extra hours, you could play funny and say you think it's because she wanted to be with you and that if you weren't working with her that night she probably would have already been gone home by now. You missed an opportunity to increase your relationship using this method.
cornelljdav wrote:
She invited me to come to the zoo with her n some co workers. I don?t think her boyfriend knows about either. Also that same day she asked me to the zoo, like before she asked she asked Was I mad at her bcuz like I said before I was a avoiding her just to see if she comes around me. When she asked was I mad I like laughed and said Nah man ain?t nobody mad at you. She said okay and smiled and asked me if I wanted to go to the zoo.
Not bad but you could have made this whole situation far better than it turned out. You got lucky with her asking you out. But you lose points because she is making all the moves.
cornelljdav wrote:
Thing I don?t get why it would matter if I was mad at her.
This is the thing. Women like to figure things out with relationships. I know because I am one. No matter who we are or what we are into we like understanding how each relationship functions. This is why she asked if you were mad, she was trying to sort out how you feel about her. The only way she could reason that you were avoiding her was that you might be upset with her. She wanted to figure that out.
cornelljdav wrote:
She got a man like don?t ask me if I?m mad at you ask ya man if he mad at you. You know lol like I?m trynna respect her relationship so I don?t be hounding her. I be doing my job and she comes around and talk about random stuff that has nothing to do with me. Like yesterday she was talking to with a like really big smile on her face like damn you that happy? Lol she even went out her way to all past me and crack a joke about her having a job for me to pick up a light bulb that broke but she was only joking.
She's putting you into her friend bin. Testing to see how you would react to things she is offering in your relationship with her. Telling you stories to see how you will respond and teasing you about work to see what you would say.
cornelljdav wrote:
Nah net yet. Well that day me n her was talking for a hour a old lady we work with seen us. Mayra didn't see her but I did. Me n the old lady real coo n I told her about the situation with mayra and she said she gone try to help low key hahaha. I told don't mess up my chance sh said she gone come up with something.
Another horrible move. It shows you have absolutely no confidence in yourself that you want to rely on others to improve your relationship with her.
cornelljdav wrote:
So yesterday she seen mayra when her and mayra was coming in at 6. She said to mayra so I hear you coming to work with us (fashions)? Mayra says yea but idk yet. Then the lady says boy Cornell sure is gonna miss u. The lady said mayra had a confused did she say what I think she said happy kinda look on her face. She sake mayra wasn't mad or anything. Once the old lady to me that she Saudi had the same look as mayra did. I was just shocked out of everything she said she said we'll Cornell is gonna miss u.
This is bad in my opinion. Because she will try to put together how this woman knows your feelings about her, when she is not even certain herself. It means the lady knows more than she does. It also makes you look bad because from her perspective it is obvious that you like her yet you have done nothing to prove that you like her. It makes you look unsure of yourself. She will figure this out.
cornelljdav wrote:
She ain't say nothing to Cover it up to hide I told her about mayra. She later said mayra seen her and smiled all happy like hey wassup? I been talking to mayra and things going real smooth. like this past week I got invited to a party by mayra friend Margaret and mayra got invited to. Margaret told me about so I said who's all going because I was sure if I would go because if mayra was going then there was no point really.
Not sure you wrote this out right. Did you mean to say if mayra was NOT going then there was no point? Because I don't see why you wouldn't want to go if she WAS going. Why miss an opportunity to be more casual with her in a non-work environment?
cornelljdav wrote:
first name she said she invited was mayra. anyways I was talking to a buddy of mine name ben and Margaret walked by the asile I was in and said maybe your not the only one he has a crush on. now she was most likely talking yo mayra when she said that. so I went to the party and apparently Margret had a big crush on Ben. like whenever they were talking about it I tried to but in but Margret said cornell be quiet we know who you like you like mayra. she said that like 3-4 times.
Bad. If her friend knows then she knows and the fact that she knows how you feel without actually hearing it from you directly is poor form. Just another nail in the fact that you have zero confidence.
cornelljdav wrote:
I'm just like nah I'm just a driend to her. Margret like that's not what she said so I go to work and mayra came to me and was talking about did I go to the party. like I know she talked to Margret before me at work like I know she know I went so what was the point of asking?
She was asking to make conversation with you.
cornelljdav wrote:
anyways Mayra came and got me on break witg a big surprise smiling so I started smiling once she walked away as I followed her she turned seen me smiling and she asked why are you smiling? I said dang I can't smile and laughed then i said why are you smiling she said because your hilarious.
I am surprised that she is carrying things out this long because it is obvious that you don't know what to do to make your relationship with her stronger.
cornelljdav wrote:
her surprise was my grandfather he had came to see me. after I got done talking to him I went back to talk with mayra. we had a nice lil convo lil laughing lil smiling it was good. I was over a Margaret house and we talked about mayra and how she likes me. now before we got a call mayra told Margaret through text she only likes me as a friend
Yep you are in the friend zone with her. It usually is a one way street with no way out. Unless you know what to do to fix the situation which I doubt that you do.
cornelljdav wrote:
and mae got a call from her guy friend erik. her friend that might like me was in the back ground of the call while it was on speaker. Mae and Erik was talking while Margaret was in the back ground talking. then mayra and Mae started talking. Mae asked mayra why she won't admit she like me. the mayra supposedly got mad and said IS CORNELL THERE? WHY IS HE OVER THERE? like real angry like.
Another really bad move. It also shows that you need her friends to initiate relationship status between you and her. Not very admirable at all.
cornelljdav wrote:
anyways when they we talking the call was no longer on speaker so thats no reason to say it like that. Nothing to hide bro. If she feel I am pressing her then she wrong.
You aren't pressing at all which you should have been doing. She obviously liked you even if she was with someone, you missed many opportunities to increase your relationship but failed to do so. She's got you on back burner keeping you as a backup but you are totally falling into friend zone with her.
cornelljdav wrote:
First off Margaret lied she said I wasn't there when mayra asked when I was. So she need to just stop with what she doing. If I'm just a friend why you bragging about me? Why you talk about me helping you and coming around you? Why you talk about how good I look? I'm just a friend remember, how that look you talking about me but I'm just yo co worker we ain't friend s but we co worker yet u talk about me as if we r friends.
She might like you, think you are attractive but the one major thing you are missing is that she wanted you to initiate something and you didn't. You look like a chump.
cornelljdav wrote:
SMh crazy she say I'm her friend but yet she talked about me all day to her friend. her friend told me that, she wanted to know why I hang out with her friend that told me about her like she said IS HE THERE? WHY HE WITH YOU? like if she jealous, she even came to my job and her friend said the girl was like o there he is let's not go that way I don't want him to see me but in a nervous voice.
She's not jealous. She probably thinks you are invading her friend circle.
cornelljdav wrote:
she invited suggested to her friend that her friend invite me to a bonfire. its crazy because I'm just a friend but she stills wants to know what I like about her and shud still goes on n on about it like she won't let it go that I'm just her friend.
You are losing ground with her. Sure she might be attracted but she won't carry these feelings indefinitely. You have to imitate something or else you will be the same level as her friends.
cornelljdav wrote:
Like if I am just a friend why care about what I like about you or better yet she said she wanted to know what I like about her so she can stop making me like her. Like if she stop doing what I like about her she won't have a personality hahaha.
She is fishing for you to initiate something to take your relationship to a new level but you keep failing to see it.
cornelljdav wrote:
Even yesterday long auntie I ain't talk to her not once yesterday. We get out at 11 you know I left real quick. I punch out n walk out the back. She behind me. I knew she was but remember she wanted to make me stop liking her so I was only giving her a better chance to do that by leaving fast. Just know she like Cornell wait on me. Hmmmm what happen to all that u just a friend I wanna make u not like me? Anyways I walk her outside n I'm thinking she was gone just leave like usual or maybe talk a bit. We talked a bit alright. We talked for a hour again!
You talk but it goes no where. She talks to her friends too so what, in her mind you are at this point no different than a friend. Friends talk. Obviously at this point you could have kissed her or tried to kiss her. Make it sweet. Initiate something to see how she would react. But you missed another opportunity to do this because you have no self confidence.
cornelljdav wrote:
Actually almost a hour n twenty minutes. Like I'm just a friend though friends talk this long? hahaha its crazy. She even try to put me on blast by saying she knows I like her Talking about everyone says I do like the whole store know. Thing is I don't Want her to know I like her. I haven't even showed her liking her I'm just being nice. So what she thinks is me liking her is then she wrong. Anyways I don't want her to know I like til I know she really likes me and wants to be with me.
Just another example showing that you lack confidence. Very unattractive.
cornelljdav wrote:
All I wanted to know was was I right about her liking me and that she wasn't just being nice. So I felt there was no need to tell her yeah I do like her because like i said I don't want her to know. So I like played it off real smooth by saying well you can't believe everything you hear like just because someone says something doesn't mean its true.
It's not that smooth when you tell her friends and her friends tell her. It just makes you look bad.
cornelljdav wrote:
I'm like Im just being nice to you. Like I can't be nice? She like yeah but I'm staying everyone said you do. I'm just like well you can believe them if you want ya know o well. Like I ain't about to tell u how I feel if I'm just a friend. Shouldn't matter n she shouldn't even tried to put me the spot n make me confess it hahaha But it was a very good conversation we left because I was tired n she had to go eventually so I cut the convo off. Yeah she showed she liked me without saying n I got my answer I was right she did like u me, u were right she did. Thank your. Now only if she really likes me then I can tell her how I feel n hopefully get with her Well, somethings have changed with me n mayra. Okay a couple days later after me and her talked for a hour I talked to her friend Margret that morning told me this ,no i think she not being honest with herself her and i were talking bout somthing and she kinda open up and i seen she unsure of her life choice and told me just like other girls that the biggest problem with u is u like every girl u see but i didnt see that i still dont even though u let me know whats up and i tol miyra i dont see him doing that. Then later that night mayra went over there and told Margret she ain't like me and Margret texted me and said mayra doesn't like you. I was just like ok. The next day Margret like mayra said if her bf downy change his ways shes gonna break up with him. You ask me that's odd. She still hasn't really talked to because she switched departments but she has this trick she does, well use to do. Okay if she doesn't see me none the whole day or talk to me before she gets out she will call me to give me her work phone when.she can easily give it to someone else or cut it off but gives it to me as a excuse to see me or talk to me before she go and about two weeks ago her last day I. my department she tried it but I was on break and I seen.her once I got back she was upset a biti aint answer her call. She tried to talk to me but I was busy. she walked up magically directly In the asile I wasilike it odd she knew exactly where I was becauseshe came right there and smiled and said hi instantly. Like a couple days ago I seen her at the mall. She was headed to the store I was leaving from coming from my right but I was going straight ahead and didn't see her but my friend was behind me and asked if I wanted to go to anymore stores and once I turned around she walked past the store I just left and I stopped and was in shock to see her and she was walking really fast like she even gripped her mom arm as I was from a distance telling my friend that was her. Like there about a 8 out of 10 chance she seen me but I don't for sure. This what I was thinking about saying I mean I can say hey mayra, what u do this week, hows fam, you n moms coo still? Yall hang out. The mall? Word what day, i was there that day, what u have on I think I saw u. Chillllllllllllll that was u hahaha I should have said sunin to c if it was u hahaha but I didnt. That's everything and like I said before I'm really sorry for how I write this. Hope you respond.""
I'm not going to even bother with the rest because I see the theme repeating itself over and over again. Even if you do get somewhere with her it probably won't last because you lack confidence. All it is going to take is that she meet a new guy who has confidence and she will forget who you are in a heart beat.