Republican Senate Nominee: "Legitimate" rape victims don't get pregnant

@BillRM,

bill...

this might be a good time to point out that even when you make a very valid point, you have to splash on a bit of pooh at the end because firefly has your panties in such a twist.

just sayin'...

(it got old a year ago)

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@Rockhead,

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bill...

this might be a good time to point out that even when you make a very valid point, you have to splash on a bit of pooh at the end because firefly has your panties in such a twist.

just sayin'...

Sorry but to me she stand for all the things that is wrong with my nation especially with regard to our crazy so call justice system that she defend with such dishonest skills.

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@BillRM,

yeah.

I'm just sorry...

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@BillRM,

Well how about a guy slipping a drug into his dates drink and than having "sex' with her while she is passed out. This isent rape because she dident tell him she dident want to have sex?

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@RABEL222,

What is BillRM trying to defend? His own actions against minors? Mr. Green

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@BillRM,

That's an informative post Bill.

I always assumed that the agitation to allow women into forward posts in the military was designed to produce a large number of these sorts of cases so that there would be a large number of juicy hearings and appeals and so forth and plenty of nutrient for a whole raft of folks to dip their bread into. Mostly folks who would soil their underwear if somebody popped a paper bag.

It could not possibly have been designed for military purposes.

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@BillRM,

Strawman.

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@RABEL222,

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Well how about a guy slipping a drug into his dates drink and than having "sex' with her while she is passed out. This isent rape because she dident tell him she dident want to have sex?

That is cover under the old laws as placing a drug in a drink behind that person back is and of itself an act of assault no difference then if he had knock her out with his fists and then have sex with her.

The old laws also required that a woman must be aware of her surrounding and able to interacted with her surroundings not semi-conscious however she can be under the influence of drugs or alcohol that she took of her own free will and her consent would still be valid not this crazy **** we now have where the male need to act as the woman guardian and refused sex it he think she can not give a valid consent due to her own actions.

Oh no hard standards given to the poor guy either so if she regret the sex sometime in the future and charge rape due to invalid consent it is any body guess if the man will end up in prison or not.

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@BillRM,

Notice Bill that ff has not offered a policy to prevent these things in future. They will continue and, to borrow a phrase from Mr Reagan, will "feed the Beast".

They love it. It's all bonus with no risk and getting to talk dirty in a respectable manner.

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@cicerone imposter,

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What is BillRM trying to defend? His own actions against minors?

?????? Action against minors??????

Are you going with the Firefly idea that anyone who think that the current level for CP trading in the US is too harsh must be a pedophile such as 70 percents of all Federal judges?

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@BillRM,

I would rather see less stringent laws for a woman to prove rape without having to go to court and have some slezzy lawyer bring up her personal life from the time she was in the first grade.

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@spendius,

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Notice Bill that ff has not offered a policy to prevent these things in future. They will continue and, to borrow a phrase from Mr Reagan, will "feed the Beast".

You know spendius if there was some indication that for example that the harsh US punishment for CP trading had reduce such trading compare to the EU nations then such punishments could perhaps be defended as a very costly but worthwhile means of attacking the problem however I had seen no studies that show that the US had less trading then anyone else.

Hell if you boot up any p2p software and use the innocent key word young you get one hell of a lot of files that by their names would make one think that they would contain CP.

So sadly the supply had not been impacted by those harsh laws in anyway I can see.

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@RABEL222,

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have some slezzy lawyer bring up her personal life from the time she was in the first grade.

You never hear of rape shield laws?!!!!????

It been decades since a woman past sex life can be brought up in courts of course the man past sex and love life is fair game.

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I would rather see less stringent laws for a woman to prove rape without having to go to court

So you would like to take away the constitution right of a man to face his accuser in open court?

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@cicerone imposter,

BillRM ran out of an audience on the rape thread because no one was paying attention to his bullshit, so he's come over here to trash this thread.

People like Akin, and Paul Ryan, and BillRM, just don't trust women on the issue of rape, unless it's a "forcible rape" and she's battered and bloody and bruised to prove it. Even then, they'd probably question whether it was consensual "rough sex".

Any rape that fits the legal definition of rape is "real rape". And no woman should have to prove she was raped in order to obtain an abortion. The right to an abortion should not be contingent on whether a woman was or wasn't sexually assaulted.

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@firefly,

John Kennedy was our first Catholic president, and he never pushed for "right to life" issues. After worrying about Catholics as our president, that fear is now real. They will push their own religious belief system on the rest of society whether they are catholics or not.

I see similarities between Sharia law and those conservatives who would make abortion a murder and property rights for the fetus.

They'll enforce their extreme positions on all citizens, and take away our freedoms like Islam and Sharia Law. If you break the law, you will be charged with murder.

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@cicerone imposter,

But Joe Biden made it clear last night that, as a Catholic, he abides by the doctrines of the Church in his personal life, but he doesn't foist his beliefs on others, and he is adamantly pro-choice for that reason.

And many other Catholic politicians have similar views to Biden.

Obviously, someone like Ryan does arouse all those fears about Catholics that did surface when Kennedy ran for the presidency--and with good reason. He does want his religious views to determine other people's choices.

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I see similarities between Sharia law and those conservatives who would make abortion a murder and property rights for the fetus.

I agree with you about that.

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@firefly,

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And no woman should have to prove she was raped in order to obtain an abortion. The right to an abortion should not be contingent on whether a woman was or wasn't sexually assaulted.

My we agree of something totally however.............of course no man should be force to support a child that he had not agree to do before it birth by either being married to the mother or signing a paper that he would do so.

As if a woman all by herself have the power to be a mother of not a mother after conception had occur she should not also be able to force a man to assume the obligation of fatherhood by exercising her rights.

Only if she did not have this post conception right/choice would force fatherhood be a fair concept.

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@BillRM,

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Only if she did not have this post conception right/choice would force fatherhood be a fair concept.

There is no connection between a woman's right to control her own body, and to have abortion available as an option in that regard, and the quite separate issue of men paying child support.

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of course no man should be force to support a child that he had not agree to do before it birth

Any man who doesn't want "forced fatherhood" should be sure he uses adequate contraception all the time.

I think we should all keep track of how many irrelevant tangents you try to inject into this particular thread.

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@firefly,

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Any man who doesn't want "forced fatherhood" should be sure he uses adequate contraception all the time.

An then so should a woman and she would then not need a right to abortion now would she Firefly!!!!!!!

Your double standards can be amusing at times................

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@cicerone imposter,

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They will push their own religious belief system on the rest of society whether they are catholics or not.

It is not a question of what they will push. It is a question of whether what they push is good for society.

You are so narcissistic, ci., that you cannot see the difference.

What you ******* so-called liberals have pushed onto us all doesn't bear thinking about. Where do you think a $16 trillion deficit came from?

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