I've been having some diet difficulties and need serious help!!

@Equestrianforlife7xo,

I may have just spread some confusion. Hypoglycemia means low blood sugar - for whatever reason. Now, I vaguely understand that some people have it as a chronic condition. I'm not familiar with that, at all. Many people with diabetes, including myself get into it on a temporary condition. It can come from going too long without eating, it can come from exercising on an empty stomach, alcohol can cause it in some people, and for those who are insulin dependent, an miscalculation of doseage can cause serious hypoglycemia.

Now, in a person with normal metabolism, which I suspect includes you, it almost never happens. During moderate exercise like a comfortable walking pace, body fat metabolises into blood sugar, and there is no problem. In extreme excerise, glycogen stored in the muscle cells and the liver is converted to blood sugar. This is a very fast process, and blood sugar remains pretty much within a normal range. By the way, if you are exercising hard and run out of glycogen reserves, you stop. You will stop right then and there. This will probably never happen to either one of us. It has happened with a few professional athletes, and is a time when pure glucose is needed. If you're really interested, this is what is known as 'hitting the wall' or 'bonking'.

Hyperglycemia is the exact opposite. Blood sugar is above normal range because it isn't being used for immediate energy, and stays in the blood stream because it isn't being stored as fat. So far as I know, glycogen is only produced as a result of exercise. Again, so far as I know, chronic hyperglycemia is another way of saying diabetes.

Always keep in mind that anything you can digest can, and often is converted into sugar. Carbohydrates are just the fastest.

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@Equestrianforlife7xo,

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My mom went foodshopping today and I actually told her to get wheat bread :p We shall see tomorrow if I like it!(Hopefully) *crosses fingers*
And I'd rather just go with Engineers diet regimen on this one, and cut out all the sweets. He's right. There un-useful.

Odds are you will not like whole grain bread as much as Wonderbread because Wonderbread is like eating cake. But that just means you will eat less of it and that's good.
It's not that you can never have sweets again, but they should be a treat - like birthday cake or something special made for a holiday. It's the daily consumption coupled with foods high in sugar and fructose that are the problem. You are basically eating sugar all day long from what you describe.

Roger, I'm the one who brought up hypoglycemia and I did so because Equestrian has all the classic symptoms. Many teenagers brought up on processed food high in sugars and made with partially hydrogenated oils are diagnosed with the problem, it's why we have so many teens with type 2 diabetes nowadays. When we grew up it was rare to see a teen with these problems, now it's almost the norm. How many kids where obese when you were in high school? I remember three out of a few hundred back in the 1970s. I live near a high school and it looks like a fat camp. Whenever I drive by a bus stop about 1/2 the kids standing there are either overweight or obese. I blame it on the easy access of addictive processed foods and the lack of real cooking.

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Yeah so, turns out, wheat bread isn't that great... I had it for lunch and I found the taste kind of gross. It wasn't that enjoyable, and I'd like to have an enjoyable lunch. It's my favorite meal of the day and that was just no fun. It ruined the turkey, mayo, and mustard. Oh and I checked, wonderbread, and the market basket wheat bread my mom got aren't that different, really. Same amount of sugar(2gs) and my brother said the wheat has 80 and wonder has 70 or 60. So suprising. But yeah. :/

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@Equestrianforlife7xo,

I was referring to calories. 70 and 80.

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@Equestrianforlife7xo,

I just added it into my food diary, all together it has 6 grams of suagr and wonder bread had 4!!! Ugh. Shouldn't of had eaten it! -___-

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@Equestrianforlife7xo,

I also read labels, and have compared white to "wheat bread" from the same brand. Identical for calories, carbohydrates, fiber, etc. Sara Lee used to put out what they called Delightful White. It was better in all respects, but I guess it didn't sell well enough to keep it on the market. If you are into reading labels, you want more fiber and less carbohydrates. Do not fixate on sugar content. Carbohydrates are what you want to cut.

The so called Wheat Bread is distinctly not the same as whole grain bread. Whole grain is somewhat better, but still bread. At one time, I tried to find a bread that was lower in wheat than most. No go. The ingredients are on the label in order by quantity. Rye (in my supermarket), potato bread, sour dough, and you name it, the first ingredient listed was always wheat.

I think you've made progress, Eq. Your mother is willing to change her shopping patterns.

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@roger,

roger wrote:

I also read labels, and have compared white to "wheat bread" from the same brand. Identical for calories, carbohydrates, fiber, etc. Sara Lee used to put out what they called Delightful White. It was better in all respects, but I guess it didn't sell well enough to keep it on the market. If you are into reading labels, you want more fiber and less carbohydrates. Do not fixate on sugar content. Carbohydrates are what you want to cut.

I completely disagree. The carbs are needed for energy. The sugar almost always gets converted into fat. This is why you should stay away from sugar and high fructose corn syrup as much as possible. It is almost impossible to find bread that doesn't have hfcs in it.

roger wrote:

The so called Wheat Bread is distinctly not the same as whole grain bread. Whole grain is somewhat better, but still bread. At one time, I tried to find a bread that was lower in wheat than most. No go. The ingredients are on the label in order by quantity. Rye (in my supermarket), potato bread, sour dough, and you name it, the first ingredient listed was always wheat.

The thing is, the human body is actually not capable of processing grains. Corn is a grain even though people consider it a vegetable. The body can not process corn at all which is why it comes out pretty much the same way it goes in. Wheat is also a grain and we should not be eating grains.

You can survive without eating bread at all without any health problems. I suggest to everyone to stop eating bread if they can however I will admit it is very difficult because just about everything uses bread in some way or another. If not using bread it is using corn, such as tortillas.

Bread is pretty much just fiber and you can get fiber from eating more naturally served fruits, such as NOT eating them in the form of smoothies or shakes. Also vegetables have a lot of fiber but like I said a lot of people assume that corn is a vegetable but it's not, it is a grain.

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@Krumple,

Krumple wrote:

roger wrote:

I also read labels, and have compared white to "wheat bread" from the same brand. Identical for calories, carbohydrates, fiber, etc. Sara Lee used to put out what they called Delightful White. It was better in all respects, but I guess it didn't sell well enough to keep it on the market. If you are into reading labels, you want more fiber and less carbohydrates. Do not fixate on sugar content. Carbohydrates are what you want to cut.

I completely disagree. The carbs are needed for energy. The sugar almost always gets converted into fat.

And just what might you be thinking the carbs are converted into? Were you to consult a glycemic index, you would discover that white bread and the so called wheat bread rank considerably higher that white sugar.

I do not recall anyone having said carbs should be completely eliminated. If you can show that someone has, you are not presenting another strawman argument.

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@roger,

roger wrote:

Do not fixate on sugar content. Carbohydrates are what you want to cut.

Krumple wrote:

I completely disagree. The carbs are needed for energy. The sugar almost always gets converted into fat.

roger wrote:

I do not recall anyone having said carbs should be completely eliminated. If you can show that someone has, you are not presenting another strawman argument.

roger wrote:

Do not fixate on sugar content. Carbohydrates are what you want to cut.

This is what I was responding to. You should cut sugars before carbs.

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@Krumple,

Krumple wrote:

roger wrote:

Do not fixate on sugar content. Carbohydrates are what you want to cut.

This is what I was responding to. You should cut sugars before carbs.

There are many carbs. If you are speaking of those associated with most bread, and all potatoes and rice, you should really educate youself before trying to give advice. Gram for gram, they are worse than white sugar.

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@Krumple,

By the way, you cannot cut sugar before carbs. Sugars are carbohydrates. In fact, they are the standard against which all other carbohydrates are compared to on the glycemic index.

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@roger,

roger wrote:

By the way, you cannot cut sugar before carbs. Sugars are carbohydrates. In fact, they are the standard against which all other carbohydrates are compared to on the glycemic index.

When I am talking about sugar, I am talking about added sugars that are not naturally in the food. I know that carbs get converted to simple sugars but they typically are naturally occurring in the foods.

So once again, it is better to cut (added) sugars before cutting carbs (natural sugars) from your diet.

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I don't like just about all of the breads you can buy at the average supermarket, including the whole wheat breads. - pretty flavorless and boring. I do like hearthbreads (more expensive rustic type breads that contain a complexity of different grains/seeds. Often rye flour is mixed with white - using all rye is a little hard to make, I remember it as a wet dough that is hard to knead.

The rustic breads I like are expensive, as I said, and not easily available in my part of this city. I've been making my own bread for around a year now, and fool around with different amounts (and coarseness) of various grains. Sometimes I use some buckwheat (this is not even a wheat), sometimes I use some bran, including possibly oat bran. I tend to throw in some ground flax seeds. I also make part of it duram semolina flour -
http://www.livestrong.com/article/290762-about-durum-wheat-and-the-glycemic-index/. I've also made rustic bread that is all semolina. I don't think you can find that in stores.

Here's a tutorial from Whole Foods on glycemic index -

http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=faq&dbid=32

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@ossobuco,

I''m kind of with you on breads. Kind of. If I were going to bread with butter, most of our breads are as someone already mentioned - very much like cake. In fact, in a German language course with a native speaker, she mentioned you could give a German a piece of what we call bread and tell them it were cake. They would believe it.

Still, the American way is to consider the filling over the bread in a sandwich. Unless you are going for something like a Reuben, some breads just overpower the contents. I would never eat peanut butter on rye, for example.

Another "still, or but", I can't keep more than one loaf of bread at the same time. They would both get stale.

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@ossobuco,

Good index, by the way. It's rich in the kind of things people actually eat. I notice their standard is white flour with an index of 100, which puts sucrose at 95. They say it's more useful, but it does take a moment of recalibration.

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@roger,

I just looked, it's actually called "Whole Wheat Bread". You were making those two W's sound like two different types of breads when this bread package is a combination. :p

I know, but everyone was basically saying to me to "Watch out for Sugar", and making it a big deal, instead of the Carbs! If I have hypoglycemia, then sugar is the big issue and I need to careful on like everyone else was telling me, especially since (as I have been saying) my food diary sugar intake/limit/goal, has been in the negative which means I am going way past it.(Sometime I sa-85--110 :O.. Not goodddd. But anyways I'm all good as long as I follow the limit. The limit for sugar it says is, 24. The limit for carbs is 165. But that is also in consideration with the exercise that I have been doing cause obviously itwould go up and I'd have more to eat of as I do exercise and burn cals off, hope you know what I'm saying, I'm having trouble explaining. As I said, I looove Engineers post, he basically said to just cut out all sugars. I can live without until I am at my desired weight.

Oh and I wouldn't really say my mom is a health freak, but she still has a lot of awareness. She's not into all that processed crap, she's been saying. Once in a while she'll by sweets. But hello, everyone is open to have some sweets. Seriously. I have older, big brothers, and one works out, lifts all those weights. HEAVY STUFF!! They're entitled to having sweets and other family. It's not their fault they have a fatttt sister who actually needs to eat healthy and watch what she eats. I should have control, but I don't. But I'm working on it.

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@Krumple,

I agree with you!!! Plus with my hypoglycemia, i definitely need to cutdown on sugar.

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@Equestrianforlife7xo,

I continue to disagree. The problem is not only sugar. Those starchy carbs are as bad, and often worse. What they have in common is that they are metabolised very quickly, leaving you hungry too soon.

Neither whole wheat bread nor what they call wheat bread is the same as whole grain bread. Whole grain is better, unless you just can't stand it. Keep reading those labels. If they have the same fiber and carbohydrate content, they are the same, as far as we are concerned.

We have a pie in the supermarket called "No Sugar Added Cherry Pie. Swell! They add "natural" pineapple juice to sweeten it, and it comes out the same to all intents and purposes.

Don't you just love the confusion?

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@roger,

Carbs make you hungry? So it's best to just not eat any then! I always thought they fill you up.

And we have that same pie to! So what are you sayinh, it's good healthy pie? Thanks a lot, I just got the cravings for some pie and ice cream and brownies. Ugh. What is wrong with me -____- .

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http://m.mrfood.com/Cold-Beverages/Peach-Melba-Cooler

^ I just saw this on tv..... Is it healthy and okay to have? I really watch something summery like this since I can't enjoy anything really sweet Sad

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