And keep the masses easily amused and distracted.......
Free "I suck Bush" T-shirts at Wal-Mart with the purchase of every gallon jar of Vlasic pickles.
Run, McG. Hurry.
Considering Bush's chess game is in a stalemate, he'd better lay off the playing.
McGentrix wrote:Powell's quote is very damning when taken out of context, isn't it? In that quote, Powell is infuriated over the loopholes that the government left open in the draft, not at the individuals who were taking advantage of the loopholes.
Since you evidently have read the book, would it be possible for you to quote the paragraphs preceeding Lola' quote please?
sozobe wrote:Timber, are you saying now that Kerry's war heroics never happened?
Nope. Just curious. As I said, I'd like to see the award recommendations, and the actual citations, and who's signatures are on them, that's all. The medical records validating recommendations for the Purples would be interesting to see, too. If folks wanna make a point of Kerry's wartime exploits, then a point should be made of them. Somebody who racked up combat citations at a faster clip than George Custer, Alvin York, Audie Murphy, or Chesty Puller must have a fascinating story.
Yeah, that was beneath me. I gotta stop stooping that low; it hurts my back.
This doesn't say much about the Purples, but his Silver Star sounds pretty meritorious ( I take it you would be familiar with this account, but others may not):
That sounds a lot more courageous than fighting
tooth decay in Alabama, doesn't it?
This article is behind registration at the LA Times.com site but is currently accessible at Yahoo News,
located here.
It's very even-handed, quoting some veterans who think far from highly about Senator Kerry.
Here's a bit more from a couple of Republicans, one of whose life he saved:
Quote:But Mike Mahler says Kerry saved lives.
A former gunner's mate aboard the aircraft carrier Enterprise
and:
Quote:In a tearful public reunion in Iowa, former Green Beret Jim Rassmann embraced the candidate before a crowd and pledged to help get him elected. Kerry had saved his life in Vietnam by hauling him out of a river during battle.
"I don't believe it; it's amazing to see you," Kerry said.
Rassmann, 56, a retired Los Angeles County deputy sheriff and registered Republican, let out a sob and hugged Kerry, who decades ago he had recommended for a Silver Star.
Rassmann, who lives in Florence, Ore., had read Brinkley's book about Kerry's Vietnam years, which includes the incident where the young skipper saved Rassmann's life. He called the Kerry campaign, asking what he could do to help.
JMHO, but I think Senator Kerry's experiences in and out of Viet Nam will garner much more praise and support than opposition.
It would seem that Clark would have received more support from the Democrats if military experience was so highly prized.
I think the comparison of Bush v. Kerry 30 years ago is nothing more than a ruse by the left to draw attention away from Kerry's experience as a Senator and his waffling votes.
Kerry was a war hero. Bush was not. Bush is President of the United states of America. Kerry is not. Both were groomed for a long time for a career in politics.
Kerry should try REALLY HARD to disassociate himself from Fonda, tricky photoshopped pictures or not, any association with Fonda will hurt him more than help him in the long run.
Quote:Kerry should try REALLY HARD to disassociate himself from Fonda, tricky photoshopped pictures or not, any association with Fonda will hurt him more than help him in the long run.
Which appears to have been the purpose of faking the photos. Again, typical of the repub smear machine. These things are designed so the simple minded will latch on. I noticed you bought it right away.
hobitbob wrote:Quote:Kerry should try REALLY HARD to disassociate himself from Fonda, tricky photoshopped pictures or not, any association with Fonda will hurt him more than help him in the long run.
Which appears to have been the purpose of faking the photos. Again, typical of the repub smear machine. These things are designed so the simple minded will latch on. I noticed you bought it right away.
Can you ever just stick to an issue without getting into these personal attacks? Are you so lonesome in your life that the only attention you can get is by slandering others? I have let your little digs go by and I even PM'ed you asking you to lay off the personal attacks but that doesn't seem to have had any affect.
I pity you that you have no belief in anything and can only wrap your small mind around petty insults and meaningless jabs.
regardless of the facts, it appears this issue is not going away soon enough for Bush.
Perhaps in the spirit of this thread I should have said "irregardless of the facts"
It seems somebody is pushing the media to keep it front burner, irregardless if it's a dead issue.
Good evening. Dys, you (perhaps intentionally) didn't mention the name of the state where you got "scissored." Would you? It's not that important if you don't think it is pertinent. I was with the 101st in VN for 15 months which included one Christmas: 1969.
The local newspaper thought it would be a good idea to collect the names and addresses of soldiers there from wives, girlfriends, parents etc so that the local citizenry could send holiday greeting cards.
I received a small handful but also got a bunch asking about how many babies I had killed.
Years later, I was at a social event and ran into the paper's publisher. He said that printing that double-page spread of our names and addresses was probably the stupidest thing he had ever done in his career.
Sorry for the interruption. Let the bickering and name-calling continue. -johnboy-
Portrait of Bush at 26 - 'Texas Soufflé'
By LARRY COHLER-ESSES and BILL HUTCHINSON
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
George W. Bush won no medals for his disputed National Guard duty in the land of Dixie, but he earned a nickname: "the Texas Soufflé."Murphy Archibald remembers Bush, then 26, as a loudmouth who showed up in Montgomery, Ala., in 1972 to work on his uncle Winton Blount's Senate campaign."[He] was good at schmoozing the county chairs, but there wasn't a lot of followup," Archibald told Time magazine in its latest issue. Another worker recalled Bush rolling into Blount headquarters around lunchtime most days, bragging about his late-night exploits and big-time political connections.Archibald said Bush made the greatest impression on a group of socialites doubling as campaign volunteers, who dubbed W "the Texas Soufflé" because he "looked good on the outside but was full of hot air."But the President and his supporters insist he's not full of hot air when he denies charges that he went AWOL from the Guard while working on the campaign that summer.The White House released Bush's records last week in an attempt to put the issue to rest, but Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe said the documents "create more questions than answers."The only seemingly credible witness to vouch for Bush is retired Lt. Col. John (Bill) Calhoun, who insists he saw Bush report for weekend duty in Alabama. But Calhoun's memory seems about as spotty as some of the military documents.Calhoun, of Atlanta, initially said he saw Bush report for Guard duty "eight to 10 times for roughly eight hours at a time from May to October 1972." Later, he said he saw Bush report for drills "on at least six occasions."And in an interview this weekend with the Daily News, Calhoun said he saw Bush attend "at least four drills." Bush's records credit him with two days in October and two in November.Calhoun, 69, a former National Guard supply officer, attributed the varying numbers to reporters' confused interpretations, and said the Guard defines a "drill" as a weekend of duty in the one-weekend-per-month cycle. "So if I saw him at six drills, that's 12 days," Calhoun said.Calhoun's explanation was even knocked yesterday by retired Texas Air National Guard Lt. Col. Albert Lloyd Jr., who Bush picked in 2000 and again recently to review his records and vouch that he met his Guard obligation."Two days make a 'drill weekend,' not a drill," said Lloyd.
Texas Souffle. Perfect description.
I am sorry you had that experience realjohnboy.
The Viet Nam war was a tragedy, one that is being repeated now in Iraq. Many of my friends avoided the draft by attending college, marriage or going to Canada, but not all could have avoided as Bush did. He was privileged by his father's position as Senator from Houston and the fact that his father knew people. I had one friend who had to starve himself to be so underweight that he would be placed on the Group W bench. It worked, but it would have been so much easier had he had the opportunity that Bush had. Then he also could have been tardy, absent and wasted. Instead, my friend was just happy not to have to participate in the war.
Bush has GOT to go!
You mean to tell me that not everyone in America has the same privileges?! *gasp* I am shocked!
Is that what all this fuss is about? That Bush comes from a rich family and he had more opportunities than anyone else?
I saw a phrase the other day that I thought was funny: "George Bush was born on third base and thought he hit a triple."
It's an old story. Those without are jealous of those that have. Except in America, those that have are supposed to be ashamed of they have and are supposed to give it away.
Boy, this post is all over the place...
I respect Kerry for his service to his country, and respect his right to come back and speak against the war afterwards.
HOWEVER, I look at his voting record during his political career and I see a man who never saw a weapons system he didn't try to kill, who would have had us lose the cold war if he had his way, and who worked to gut (if not kill) our intelligence agencies. With all due respect for his honorable, but distant, military service, it is his voting record that I believe indicates his woeful shortcomings as a potential war-time president (or any-time president, for that matter).
