Florida's Stand your Ground law

He also wasn't claiming self-defense. He was trying to rob people, not doing a neighborhood watch patrol. If he had claimed self-defense then he would have been released as well. Its what the law says.

Several people reported him using the term "cracker" which is a racist term for white people. Where is the consistency?

Where are the hate crime supporters in a case like this? Why wasn't race an issue here? Black people can't be racist?

I don't think anyone is asking zimmerman to be charged with a hate crime. They just want him charged with the murder of an unarmed teenager. Let him defend his actions before his peers. Some members of the jury might have the same opinions as Zim. and he could walk or not.
I also don't think everyone who has called someone an unsavory name should be charged with a hate crime. Lynching someone while dressed in robes is probably a hate crime, or dragging a person behind a speeding vehicle with a dixie flag on the bumper or beating a gay man to death just because he's gay may be.
Zimmerman stated he wasn't a racist. As people have pointed out, he called the young man a ******* coon.

It all about consistency. No mention of a hate crime anywhere in the article. The point is, that people are still claiming a "white guy" shot a "black kid". To our knowledge he said something I wouldn't say, and this turned into a racial case.

This is the last time I will respond you.

You are a waste of ******* time and energy.

You have two ears, listen to the tape yourself.

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It all about consistency. No mention of a hate crime anywhere in the article.
The point is, that people are still claiming a "white guy" shot a "black kid".
To our knowledge he said something I wouldn't say, and this turned into a racial case.

I think it's much more than a "racial case".
Race played a part, I think that's clear, but to me it's much more about justice.

So according to u, the police have to arrest u when thay believe that u did nothing rong ??

I wonder what the reason for that is ?

but I'd be surprised if the police in each jurisdiction did not have a designated officer/lawyer who determines this as well.

AS a black man who has been mugged at gunpoint by a black teenager late at night, I am not naïve: I know firsthand the awkward conundrums surrounding race, fear and crime. Trayvon Martin’s killing at the hands of George Zimmerman baffles this nation. While the youth’s supporters declare in solidarity “We are all Trayvon,” the question is raised, to what extent is the United States also all George Zimmerman?

Under assault, I didn’t dream of harming my teenage assailant, let alone taking his life.

Mr. Zimmerman reacted very differently, taking out his handgun and shooting the youth in cold blood.

What gives?

Welcome to gate-minded America.

From 2007 to 2009, I traveled 27,000 miles, living in predominantly white gated communities across this country to research a book. I threw myself into these communities with gusto — no Howard Johnson or Motel 6 for me. I borrowed or rented residents’ homes. From the red-rock canyons of southern Utah to the Waffle-House-pocked exurbs of north Georgia, I lived in gated communities as a black man, with a youthful style and face, to interview and observe residents.

The perverse, pervasive real-estate speak I heard in these communities champions a bunker mentality. Residents often expressed a fear of crime that was exaggerated beyond the actual criminal threat, as documented by their police department’s statistics. Since you can say “gated community” only so many times, developers hatched an array of Orwellian euphemisms to appease residents’ anxieties: “master-planned community,” “landscaped resort community,” “secluded intimate neighborhood.”

No matter the label, the product is the same: self-contained, conservative and overzealous in its demands for “safety.” Gated communities churn a vicious cycle by attracting like-minded residents who seek shelter from outsiders and whose physical seclusion then worsens paranoid groupthink against outsiders. These bunker communities remind me of those Matryoshka wooden dolls. A similar-object-within-a-similar-object serves as shelter; from community to subdivision to house, each unit relies on staggered forms of security and comfort, including town authorities, zoning practices, private security systems and personal firearms.

Residents’ palpable satisfaction with their communities’ virtue and their evident readiness to trumpet alarm at any given “threat” create a peculiar atmosphere — an unholy alliance of smugness and insecurity. In this us-versus-them mental landscape, them refers to new immigrants, blacks, young people, renters, non-property-owners and people perceived to be poor.

Mr. Zimmerman’s gated community, a 260-unit housing complex, sits in a racially mixed suburb of Orlando, Fla. Mr. Martin’s “suspicious” profile amounted to more than his black skin. He was profiled as young, loitering, non-property-owning and poor. Based on their actions, police officers clearly assumed Mr. Zimmerman was the private property owner and Mr. Martin the dangerous interloper. After all, why did the police treat Mr. Martin like a criminal, instead of Mr. Zimmerman, his assailant? Why was the black corpse tested for drugs and alcohol, but the living perpetrator wasn’t?

Across the United States, more than 10 million housing units are in gated communities, where access is “secured with walls or fences,” according to 2009 Census Bureau data. Roughly 10 percent of the occupied homes in this country are in gated communities, though that figure is misleadingly low because it doesn’t include temporarily vacant homes or second homes. Between 2001 and 2009, the United States saw a 53 percent growth in occupied housing units nestled in gated communities.

Another related trend contributed to this shooting: our increasingly privatized criminal justice system. The United States is becoming even more enamored with private ownership and decision making around policing, prisons and probation. Private companies champion private “security” services, alongside the private building and managing of prisons.

“Stand Your Ground” or “Shoot First” laws like Florida’s expand the so-called castle doctrine, which permits the use of deadly force for self-defense in one’s home, as long as the homeowner can prove deadly force was reasonable. Thirty-two states now permit expanded rights to self-defense.

In essence, laws nationwide sanction reckless vigilantism in the form of self-defense claims. A bunker mentality is codified by law.

Those reducing this tragedy to racism miss a more accurate and painful picture. Why is a child dead? The rise of “secure,” gated communities, private cops, private roads, private parks, private schools, private playgrounds — private, private, private —exacerbates biased treatment against the young, the colored and the presumably poor.

So according to u, the police have to arrest u when thay believe that u did nothing rong ??

I wonder what the reason for that is ?

The reason would be the warrant for the person's arrest.

So according to u, the police have to arrest u when thay believe that u did nothing rong ??

I wonder what the reason for that is ?

So according to u, the police have to arrest u when thay believe that u did nothing rong ??

I wonder what the reason for that is ?

In the case of mandatory arrest laws re domestic violence the reason is the assumption that men are most to blame but that the police who are more often men than women refuse to arrest the men because they empathize with the men. I dont believe that this theory has ever been proven but no matter, laws have been written to right the alleged wrong by forcing cops to arrest even when they dont think that they should. The assumption is that it will most often be men who are cuffed as a result of these laws.

I'm sure that in our nation's history, there have been cases where a police officer
had to arrest someone whom he (or she) thought had done nothing wrong,
because there was a warrant for the person's arrest.

You seem to be having difficulty tracking the conversation.