Reply Fri 2 Mar, 2012 11:29 pm

Is Rush Limbaugh a conservative??

A conservative is a man who rigidly adheres to the filosofy
that the Founders set forth in the US Constitution,
including its Bill of Rights,
and who does not deviate therefrom.

Concerning his latest diatribe in controversy:
there is NOTHING of an anti-sexual nature set forth in the Constitution.
It does not say that u shud be prudish.

I accept maybe around 6O% to 7O% of what I 've heard Rush say.

In modern times, Senator Barry Goldwater was a conservative.
I am skeptical that he 'd be in a big hurry to run over and shake Rush's hand.
I do not believe that Rush shows enuf of a love
of personal freedom to be deemed a real conservative.

The anti-sexual beliefs of Rush and Pat Robertson, et al
are their private opinions, but thay are NOT conservatism.
If thay wanna claim that those beliefs really ARE conservative,
then let them prove that George Washington, James Madison, Ben Franklin et al were anti-sexual zealots.
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 12:46 am

Rush is not much of a libertarian.

It is impossible to be an orthodox conservative without a love of personal freedom.
That is the heart & soul of the filosofy from which a conservative does not deviate.

Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 12:59 am
Rush is a vicious windbag that makes his money by fanning the fears and prejudices of the weak minded and racially biased among us.
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 02:27 am
His paycheque.
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 04:32 am
If you just look at him you can see why he's not getting any sex, and is envious of anyone who is.
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:18 am
Rockhead wrote:
Rush is a vicious windbag
Well, he has been known to have used Oxycontin,
which can be considered "vice"; as to his being a windbag (like obama??),
he has the same and equal right to express his points of vu, as anyone else.

As I 've said hereinabove:
I agree with about maybe 60% to 70% of what he has said over the centuries.
I see no merit in disparaging any person of any gender, any age, or any race
for his or her participation in sexual activity, as if it were something to be ashamed of.
He obviously implies that sexuality IS something to be ashamed of.
I have never agreed with that.

Sexuality is an ordinary human function.
Birth control is a wise thing to do.

Rockhead wrote:
that makes his money by fanning the fears
and prejudices of the weak minded and racially biased among us.
Well, Rocky, I 'll agree that some of his followers are weak minded, not all of them.
In fairness, some fears r more worthy of being fanned (e.g., a nuclear armed Iran)
than others, depending on the merit of the perceived danger.
I seldom listen to his radio show.

I once attended his TV show in NY, in the 1990s, with friends who got tickets.
( I look very, very bad on TV; just shockingly terrible, but I look better on the radio. )

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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:23 am
izzythepush wrote:
If you just look at him you can see why he's not getting any sex,
and is envious of anyone who is.
I disagree with that.
Fame is an afrodesiac; it has a magnetic quality about it.
( That also applies to wealth; he has both. )

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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:27 am

I just don't see that Rush 's views r necessarily in keeping
with those of the Founders; to the extent that thay r not:
he is not a conservative.
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:29 am
Are 18th Century views that relevant in the 21st Century? Jefferson's views on slavery spring to mind.
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:38 am
izzythepush wrote:
Are 18th Century views that relevant in the 21st Century?
YES! Thay r the Foundation of the Republic wherein I live.
Thay r timeless principles (like arithmetic);
for instance: the natural right of self defense.

izzythepush wrote:
Jefferson's views on slavery spring to mind.
How ?
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:41 am
You don't think owning slaves in the 21st Century is at all anachronistic, or dare I say it, wrong?
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 06:44 am
izzythepush wrote:
You don't think owning slaves in the 21st Century is at all anachronistic, or dare I say it, wrong?
It is in practice in North Korea and in Cuba.
I have always believed that communist slavery is rong.
I never thawt much of nazi slavery, either.

Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 07:00 am
The Cubans liberated themselves back in the 50's. North Korea is a whole new mindset. I've seen interviews with journalists that have been there. They say when visiting other authoritarian regimes, the behaviour of the citizens was very difeerent off camera. They knew a lot of what they were parroting was bullshit. This was not the case with North Korea.
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 07:07 am
izzythepush wrote:
The Cubans liberated themselves back in the 50's.
into communist slavery

According to u: Fulgencio Batista held the people of Cuba in bondage,
that thay needed to be liberated????????????
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 07:29 am
I heard a radio interview by a CIA agent who was an expert on Cuba, he said that if he were an ordinary Cuban he would have welcomed Castro.

Whichever way you look at it, they've managed to stand up to the most powerful country on Earth, no mean feat in itself. Maybe if America had been a bit less antagonisti,c there would have been democratic elections by now. When you're under pressure you develop a siege mentality.
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 07:49 am
i loved bill Hick's take on Rush

Speaking of Satan, I was watching Rush Limbaugh the other day. Doesn’t Rush Limbaugh remind you of one of those gay guys that like to lie in a tub while other guys pee on him?
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 08:21 am
i loved bill Hick's take on Rush

Speaking of Satan, I was watching Rush Limbaugh the other day. Doesn’t Rush Limbaugh remind you of one of those gay guys that like to lie in a tub while other guys pee on him?

That's a dreadful image to conjure up and which will destroy his already sullied reputation (if the films are ever released).

We could use Bill Hicks around here, he had a knack for both take and delivery.

As far as Rush goes I hear some of his musings at times and at times have considered screwing him over.

His radio broadcast comes on here around midday, they are mostly good as comedy.

Last year, he was in a tea mode. Kept on and on about a tea. Then he had a little contest. If you won, he'd be coming by with the tea....several cartons of the damn stuff. I toyed with entering. Picturing his fat frame shaking the building as he huffed and puffed his way up the stairs.
Thought we could talk, then I'd get him in a grizzly bear hug and after that kiss him on the side of his face, then tell him he'd just become an official queer. Hand him a hastily crafted membership card and watch as he turned all the colors of the rainbow.

Then I realized two things, I don't like him, I can't stand tea.

Maybe someday I'll gather up the nerve to go to Cape Girardeau and see how that Missouri town created the likes of Rush.
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Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 08:45 am
he needs to conserve oxygen and shut the hell up...
Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 10:26 am
Rush is a sad example of a man who cannot maintain the affection of women. He's tried for years but the women always leave him when they can no longer stand to be in his presence. Four women have married him, but they all left him when he killed their affection. He's never produced any children with these four wives. It appears not to be the fault of the women. More likely, it's Rush who won't or can't produce a child.

Rush's behavior indicates an unloved boy. Hummmm? I wonder if Rush is a secrete Gay?

Reply Sat 3 Mar, 2012 10:38 am
Rush LimbaughAKA Rush Hudson Limbaugh III
Born: 12-Jan-1951
Birthplace: Cape Girardeau, MO
Gender: Male
Religion: Methodist
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Radio Personality, Pundit
Party Affiliation: Republican

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Conservative talk show host

Rush Limbaugh was born into a prominent Missouri family, and raised in a town about thirty miles from the Kentucky border. His grandfather, the first Rush Hudson Limbaugh, was America's Ambassador to India in the Eisenhower administration. His uncle, Stephen Limbaugh, was appointed federal judge by Ronald Reagan, and his cousin, Stephen Limbaugh Jr, was appointed to the U.S. District Court by George W. Bush. His father was a prominent local attorney, who imbued his children with conservative ideology. His brother, David Limbaugh, is a lawyer and conservative writer.

He started in radio as a disc jockey on his home town's KGMO (part-owned by Limbaugh's father) while he was still in high school, using the on-air name "Rusty Sharpe." He dropped out of college, and eventually landed a job as a morning disc jockey at a small top-40 radio station in McKeesport, PA, near Pittsburgh. He quickly moved to a bigger station in Pittsburgh, where he worked as "Jeff Christie", and then to Kansas City, where he used his real name. Several times over several years he was fired for making too many, too rude political comments. Frustrated at his lack of success, he left radio, and took a job selling tickets for the Kansas City Royals baseball team.

Limbaugh's radio career was revived by Norm Woodruff, a San Francisco radio executive who urged friends at Sacramento's KFBK to hire him at a time when he was essentially unknown in the radio business. Woodruff even took Limbaugh shopping for clothes, improving his appearance to make a better impression on KFBK brass. The station decided to take a chance, putting Limbaugh on in what had been Morton Downey, Jr.'s time slot. His ratings were better than Downey's, putting Limbaugh's career back on track. In telling the story of his success, Limbaugh occasionally mentions Woodruff's help, but he never mentions that Woodruff was openly gay, and died of AIDS in the 1980s.

Limbaugh's biggest break came in 1987, when the Federal Communications Commission repealed its Fairness Doctrine, a rule that had required radio and television stations to provide equal time to both sides of political debates. Freed from any requirement to air rebuttals to provocative opinions, Limbaugh's radio style suddenly looked much more profitable, and within months he left Sacramento and signed with the ABC Radio Network, which syndicated his show from New York. Limbaugh is now syndicated by Premiere Radio Networks, which is owned by Clear Channel Communications. He is heard on about 600 stations nationwide, with little room for further growth -- there is no major market area where his program cannot be heard.

When substituting for Pat Sajak in a 1990 episode of Sajak's ill-fated late night talk show, he was heckled and booed by the studio audience after he made anti-gay comments, until the auditorium was emptied, leaving Limbaugh to finish the show in front of hundreds of empty seats. He had his own half-hour syndicated TV show from 1992-96, produced by Republican operative and later CEO of Fox News Roger Ailes and filmed in front of studio audiences pre-screened to be friendly to his conservative perspectives.

Limbaugh backs conservative causes without any exceptions -- he supports capital punishment, opposes abortion, claims that global warming is a lie, etc. Callers are pre-screened; few who disagree with the host are allowed on the air. There are rare guests -- occasionally Vice President Dick Cheney or other Republican officials drop in for a interview. For three hours daily, five days a week, Limbaugh weaves his opinion with a sense of humor, sarcasm, and a confident voice that sounds accurate and authoritative, even if the facts he recites are often far from correct.

He has claimed, for example, that no-one was indicted in the Iran-Contra scandal (14 were), that America has more forest land now than in 1492 (according to US Forest Service estimates, about 250,000,000 acres have been cut), that 75% of Americans who earn minimum wage are teenagers on their first job (in reality, the vast majority of minimum wage workers are over the age of 20), on and on. He has also given occasional credence to fringe conspiracy theories, claiming, for example, that Vince Foster was murdered instead of committing suicide, and that the crime took place in an apartment leased to Hillary Clinton. Limbaugh has also accused German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer of being a member of Germany's Red Army Faction, a communist guerilla group blamed for more than 30 murders.

Limbaugh came to manhood in an era when the nation had a military draft for the Vietnam war. He avoided service by having his physician certify his medical unfitness due to an "inoperable pilonidal cyst" and "a football knee from high school." He played one year of varsity football in high school, and his coach, Ryland Meyr, said later he remembered no injuries to Limbaugh. Those who loathe Limbaugh sometimes describe his pilonidal cyst as "a boil on his butt", but that is an oversimplification. A pilonidal cyst is a chronic collection of pus or an abnormal draining passage leading to an abscess, located in the opening between the buttocks muscles. It is susceptible to infection, which can be dangerous on a war front, so severe pilonidal cysts have long been (and still are) legitimate grounds for exemption from military service. The peculiar thing is that Limbaugh denies he ever had a pilonidal cyst, dismissing it as "internet bull", though the record is plain.

But Limbaugh reaches ordinary Americans, because he sounds like an ordinary American. Sometimes he sounds like an ordinary working stiff, as he complains about the wealthy elite who control America: "All of these rich guys -- like the Kennedy family and Perot -- pretending to live just like we do and pretending to understand our trials and tribulations and pretending to represent us." Limbaugh's current contract pays him $45-million per year, and he has spoken of friends who make $180,000 per year and "don't consider themselves rich". He has said of the official poverty line, "$14,400 for a family of four? That's not so bad." Commenting on corporate outsourcing and layoffs, Limbaugh once wondered, "Why is it that whenever a corporation fires workers, it's never speculated that the workers might have deserved it?"

Limbaugh's impact on America has been huge. Talk radio was a very minor niche when his program was first syndicated, and stations that aired a conservative-tilted program almost invariably balanced that with a liberal-tilted program. Now, talk radio is almost exclusively conservative, and Limbaugh has spawned many imitators, including Sean Hannity, Michael Medved, and Tony Snow -- all of whom got early exposure guest-hosting on Limbaugh's program. In 1994, Limbaugh was widely credited as Republicans were elected to control of Congress, with several newly-elected Congressman openly calling themselves "the Dittohead caucus."

In his book The Way Things Ought To Be, Limbaugh wrote, "I believe that strong, wholesome family values are at the very core of a productive, prosperous, and peaceful society." So what are Limbaugh's family values? His first wife, Roxy Maxine McNeely, was a sales secretary at a Kansas City radio station. She was granted divorce under grounds of incompatibility after almost three years of marriage. His second wife, Michelle Sixta, was an usher at the Royals' ball park. They divorced after about five years. He met his third wife, aerobics instructor Marta Fitzgerald, through CompuServe's dating service, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas performed their wedding ceremony. According to the Palm Beach Post, Limbaugh and Fitzgerald maintained separate houses during their marriage. She divorced Limbaugh at his request after ten years of marriage, at about the time Limbaugh began dating then-CNN anchor Daryn Kagan.

In 2003, Limbaugh was forced to resign as a football commentator at ESPN amid allegations of racism, after he said in a telecast that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated, and given extra attention because the league and the media wanted a black quarterback to be successful.[1] So is Limbaugh a racist? On his show, he routinely pronounces "ask" and "asked" as "axe" and "axed", he routinely calls light-skinned African-Americans like Halle Berry and Barack Obama "Halfrican-Americans", and he has frequently described President Obama as "an immature childish manchild" and "essentially a primitive, indigenous guy." He once told a black caller to "take that bone out of your nose and call me back", and asked, "Have you ever noticed how all newspaper composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"

When his comments are taken as offensive, Limbaugh seems to enjoy the added attention. Among his more famous lines, he described the abuse at Abu Ghraib, where prisoners were stacked naked, sexually taunted and beaten while blindfolded, as the equivalent of "hazing, a fraternity prank". He called 13-year-old Chelsea Clinton "the White House dog", and eulogized Kurt Cobain as "a worthless shred of human debris." In 2006, when it was revealed that Republican Congressman Mark Foley had sent sexually explicit emails to an underage Congressional page, Limbaugh was the first and one of the few media voices to announce the teenager's name. He also blamed the boy for leading the Congressman on, wondering on the air if "maybe the page is out there engaged in some kind of chicanery."

In 2001, Limbaugh announced on his radio program that he had been losing his hearing, and was "almost completely deaf." He then had a cochlear implant installed in his left ear, and said that his hearing was mostly restored. In 2003, responding to published reports that he was under investigation for purchasing illegal drugs, he announced that he had become addicted to prescription opiates such as oxycodone as a result of long-term back pain. Oxycodone is marketed under such familiar brand names as Percodan, Percocet, and OxyContin, and hearing loss is a well-established side effect of oxycodone addiction.

Limbaugh, of course, has always called for harsh penalties for drug abusers, arguing that "if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up." After admitting his own addiction, he took a month off his radio show to undergo rapid rehab. He then spent the next several years battling Florida investigators who sought his medical records to investigate him for "doctor shopping" -- the crime of obtaining the same prescription from more than one doctor, since Limbaugh's use of oxycodone had been far in excess of the amount any doctor would plausibly prescribe. Claiming a right to privacy, he was assisted in his courtroom appeals by the American Civil Liberties Union, a group he has often criticized before and after accepting their help. In a 2006 plea bargain, charges were dropped in exchange for Limbaugh's payment of $30,000, agreement to undergo 18 months of drug abatement therapy, and his agreement to submit to random drug testing.

In June 2006, Limbaugh had further drug problems when a bottle of Viagra was found in his luggage at the Palm Beach Airport. The prescription was not in Limbaugh's name, but no charges were filed against Limbaugh, who was returning from a vacation in the Dominican Republic with four male companions.

In October 2006, responding to television ads showing a shaky Parkinson's-afflicted Michael J. Fox pleading for voters to support candidates who would fund embryonic stem cell research over Republicans who oppose such research, Limbaugh said Fox was simply faking his symptoms. "He is exaggerating the effects of the disease," Limbaugh said. "He is moving all around and shaking and it's purely an act... This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn't take his medication or he's acting."

Since Limbaugh's Sacramento days, his show's theme song has been an endless bass-beating loop snipped from a 1984 song by The Pretenders, "My City Was Gone." The song, though, has potent and openly liberal lyrics, written by Chrissie Hynde to protest over-development: "I went back to Ohio / but my pretty countryside / had been paved down the middle / by a government that had no pride." Limbaugh never sought permission to use the music, never paid royalties, and Hynde, living in England, heard only occasionally about her song's hijacking. She had no comment until 1997, when Limbaugh answered a reporter's question about the song by explaining that it was "icing on the cake that it was [written by] an environmentalist, animal rights wacko and was an anti-conservative song. It is anti-development, anti-capitalist, and here I am going to take a liberal song and make fun of [liberals] at the same time." Upon reading that, Hynde had her representatives contact Limbaugh and demand payment. At Hynde's request, Limbaugh's royalty checks for using her song are now made payable to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA).

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