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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 08:35 am
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"Jachin and Boaz" were the names given by their craftsman to two large cast-bronze pillars that stood on either side of the entrance to the Temple in Jerusalem which was built by King Solomon according to God's instructions.

You mean these two?

http://home.att.net/~kc5seo/SRC.IMAGES/pillars.jpg

Which are the same as these two right?

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In the lore of Freemasonry, Boaz was the great-grandfather of King David - representing "strength, or it is in strength". Jachin was the high priest who assisted the dedication of Solomon's Temple - representing " to establish" and united "stability".
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 08:36 am
I like Google a lot! :wink:
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 09:06 am
Whats Google? Smile
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 09:09 am
Let put it this way: Jesus loves the sweat love of Google (Tituba style)
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Thok
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 09:17 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Whats Google?


=googol 10^100
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 09:21 am
Correct. And how did it get that name? The number, not the search engine
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 09:52 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Correct. And how did it get that name? The number, not the search engine


You could do some research by yourself, Steve:


http://fury.com/images/weblog/google_circa_1960.jpg
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Thok
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 09:53 am
Walter has right.

googol again: 1 with 100 zeros , that is it :

10 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
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Moishe3rd
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 09:56 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Moishe asks me

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Why do you believe that establishing a Jewish State was wrong?


Because among other things, its against the Will of G-d.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

Smile
This is one of the most pertinent things you have written.
I's wrong, but very pertinent. Laughing

The reason it's wrong is because who are you (or in this case "they") to decied what is the Will of G-d?

To wit - a quote selected at random from your website (mainly because I learn the Chofetz Chaim a lot):

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I have also learned over some of Reb Elchonon, quoted above.

Based on my understanding of what the Chofetz Chaim said and wrote above, YOU would be condemned for claiming that establishing a Jewish IS (my emphasis) wrong and against the Will of G-d.

If you are enough of a Jewish scholar to have actually read what the rabbis said about establishing a Jewish state and their references to the Torah, then you ought to be enough of a scholar to figure out the difference between WAS and IS in reference to whether the Rabbis today believe that it is the Will of G-d that the state of Israel exists and whether it should continue to exist.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 10:13 am
Me do some research?

No way. I know it all off the top of my head.

And if I'm stuck, I use




















walter.com
Smile
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Thok
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 11:50 am
Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

walter.com


hahaha

look here -- http://www.walter.com :-)
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 12:06 pm
'Walter.com macht spass'?
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 02:54 pm
Steve
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Because among other things, its against the Will of G-d.


What God the one who watched while Jews were marched into the gas chambers? Never again!

If there is a God hopefully he will chose some other religion to be fuel for the fires.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 03:48 pm
Moishe, I only posted a website address. I make no claim to be a Rabbi. And from some of the stuff you posted

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Kaplan... stated that... Chaim...stated that the Zionists are not Jews, they are descendants of the wicked Amalekites.

I heard ...Chaim state ...the Jewish Communists ... are ... Amalekites.

There is no difference between (Jewish Communists) and the Zionists ...on both types G-d swore that neither his Name nor his Seat are complete until these people are removed from the world.


...I'm glad I'm not a religious scholar. Its not ME making claims about what God wants or does not want, how the hell should I know? I never claimed to be anything but mortal. Its religious scholars who make competing claims about the true word of God, not me.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 04:04 pm
Steve
Just as the Moslems have their fundamentalists and the Christians have theirs we too the Jews have ours. They in no way represent the thinking or will of the Jewish people. The overwhelming majority support the Jewish State. The fact is and I know this from personal experience this small minority do not consider even the rest of us Jews. They have been against the establishment of the state of Israel from it's inception. Their belief is that Israel can be reborn only after the arrival of the biblical messiah.
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Moishe3rd
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 04:10 pm
au1929 wrote:
Steve
Just as the Moslems have their fundamentalists and the Christians have theirs we too the Jews have ours. They in no way represent the thinking or will of the Jewish people. The overwhelming majority support the Jewish State. The fact is and I know this from personal experience this small minority do not consider even the rest of us Jews. They have been against the establishment of the state of Israel from it's inception. Their belief is that Israel can be reborn only after the arrival of the biblical messiah.


This is korrect.
However, in the year of their lord, 2004, the majority of Rabbis (Gedolim) do support the state of Israel, they just think it ought to be more religious.
But, oddly enough, this does not mean a theocracy - it just means more religious. They believe that all Jews ought to be more religious and that those living in the Land of Israel have more of an obligation to be religious.
It is the minority of nutcases who think that either Israel shouldn't exist or that it should be religious by force.... Either side of the coin, they speak for no one but themselves.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 04:15 pm
Moishe3rd wrote:
However, in the year of their lord, 2004, ...



Just curious: shouldn't that be 5764?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 04:17 pm
Well you have to admit to an outsider looking in its kind of confusing.

They claim to be Jewish, they say other Jews are not Jewish, including the majority of Jews who look upon these extremists as well as...what extreme Jewish?

Are you only a true Jew if you vote Democrat? Sorry Republican....er

But as you say its the same the world over when religious fevour takes hold.

I've said this before, there are two types of religious people, the deluded and the dangerously deluded.
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 04:19 pm
WALTER

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Just curious: shouldn't that be 5764?

That must have been a concession to the Christians living among us. Laughing
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 21 Jul, 2004 04:28 pm
Steve
Is it any different in Christianity. Consider how many Christian sects there are. With each one claiming to follow the true path to heaven and God. Are they in for a shock when they reach heaven and are greeted by Jesus wearing a yamalka and a prayer shawl. [Tallis] Embarrassed Embarrassed
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