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Why I am not Voting Obama

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 28 Feb, 2012 06:58 pm
@Frank Apisa,
You wrote,
Quote:
Are they Democratic plants out to destroy the Republican Party?


Isn't it an absolutely delightful turn of events when the GOP candidates destroy themselves with their lies, innuendos, and rhetoric to take away freedoms from women, gays and lesbians, and all while spending tens of millions to destroy each other~! No historian or comedy writer could have dreamed of such an event in the US.

JTT
 
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Reply Tue 28 Feb, 2012 08:10 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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I am not interested in illustrating to you that I did not chicken out.


Of course, you chickened out, Frank. You maintain that it would be so easy. I think you met with the reality wall.

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If you have something to say about why you are not voting for Barack Obama (the topic of this thread),


I'm wondering, how does one bring oneself to vote for a war criminal?

Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 07:22 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Isn't it an absolutely delightful turn of events when the GOP candidates destroy themselves with their lies, innuendos, and rhetoric to take away freedoms from women, gays and lesbians, and all while spending tens of millions to destroy each other~! No historian or comedy writer could have dreamed of such an event in the US.


It is indeed a delight, ci. Loving it!
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 07:27 am
@JTT,
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Of course, you chickened out, Frank. You maintain that it would be so easy. I think you met with the reality wall.


If it makes you happy to think I chickened out, JTT...go with it. I like when people are happy.

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I'm wondering, how does one bring oneself to vote for a war criminal?


I have no idea...I've never voted for a war criminal--nor considered voting for one.

If you are actually asking, however, "How does one bring oneself to vote for someone YOU (JTT) consider a war criminal?"...

...my reply would be:

I would simply disregard what you think about the individual and vote for the person I consider to be the best choice offered.
panzade
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 11:44 am
Another delight is having Frank back.
Thomas
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:11 pm
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:
Good lord. I'd rather hold my nose and vote for obama than hold my dick and vote for either of those two.

These are not the only choices. Edgar, the initiator of this thread, is considering others.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:15 pm
@panzade,
Thanks, Panzada.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:27 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Willard's wins in Michigan and Arizona also means big trouble for the republicans. Can anybody imagine those workers and their families in the auto industry voting for Willard?

This is very good news for Obama; Willard doesn't have a prayer in any national election - against John Doe. The evangelicals will not allow it.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:29 pm
@Thomas,
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These are not the only choices. Edgar, the initiator of this thread, is considering others.


During the height of the Cold War, we often saw bumper stickers that said:
I'd Rather Be Dead Than Red.

Many people used to ask: Aren't there any other choices?

In that case, YES...there were other choices, and many of those choices were reasonable and made sense.

As regard the election in November, however, I cannot conceive of a scenario that results in anything other than the Democratic or Republican candidate winning.

The chances of a Third Party winning are astronomical against...so while you are correct that a person can choose some alternative other than the Democrat or the Republican...that is where it is going to end up.

A vote withheld by a liberal...is, in effect, a vote for the Republican. A vote for a Third Party by a liberal...is, in effect, a vote for the Republican.

Obviously, votes withheld or given to a Third Party by a conservative...are, in effect, votes for the Democrat.

Edgar, the originator of this thread, identifies himself in his opening remarks as a “liberal.” Any option he makes other than voting for the Democrat will, in effect, be a vote for the Republican.

He lives in Texas…and chances are his lost vote will not matter much. Obama has as much chance of carrying Texas as he has of traveling to Alpha Centauri before leaving office.

Liberals from closely contested states, however, ought to think twice before doing this.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Isn't it an absolutely delightful turn of events when the GOP candidates destroy themselves with their lies, innuendos, and rhetoric to take away freedoms from women, gays and lesbians, and all while spending tens of millions to destroy each other~!

But remember, the US voting public has the collective attention span of a white mouse. So no matter how ugly it gets now, within a month after the GOP Convention everyone will have forgotten everything that happened.

The general election will probably be close. So don't get too comfortable yet.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 03:58 pm
Liberals from every state ought to emulate my decision.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 04:00 pm
@rosborne979,
White mouse has more brain than a turkey, so you're complimenting voters to some degree. Mr. Green Mr. Green Rolling Eyes Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 04:28 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Liberals from every state ought to emulate my decision.


It would be a foolish thing for them to do - it would solve nothing and make the situation here in America actively worse.

Good thing there doesn't seem to be any mass movement for them to do so - Obama is still pulling similar numbers in electoral polls to what he did 4 years ago, amongst Democrats.

Cycloptichorn
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 04:36 pm
@edgarblythe,
I agree, but not because Obama is not a liberal,but because he's a liar.

Conservatives have accepted his lying, and it's not like he's promised us anything we might have counted on. We didn't vote for him.

For those who did vote for him...
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 04:42 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
In response to Edgar's call for people in all states to abandon Barack Obama, you wrote:

Quote:
It would be a foolish thing for them to do - it would solve nothing and make the situation here in America actively worse.


Right on the mark, Cyclo. Not sure why any disaffected liberals think allowing the Republicans to gain the Oval Office will help their cause, but it is about as wrong-headed as any political move since the decision to burglarize the Watergate.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 04:43 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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I agree, but not because Obama is not a liberal,but because he's a liar.


Finn...Obama is an American politician...and you are calling him a liar.

How could you do that?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 05:10 pm
@Frank Apisa,
That's because Finn doesn't understand politics and politicians. If Finn wants lies, here's some from Romney, the front-runner in Michigan and Arizona.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9K79AUzgQc
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 05:14 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

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I agree, but not because Obama is not a liberal,but because he's a liar.


Finn...Obama is an American politician...and you are calling him a liar.

How could you do that?


because of the bolded word
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 05:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Here's a Santorum lie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16cT6_G1FRw
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 29 Feb, 2012 05:17 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Is Santorum a racist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYSPqsVRMtg
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