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Man's life Over, Cops Decide He Watched Child Porn in First Class

 
 
JTT
 
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Sat 18 Feb, 2012 08:40 pm
@firefly,
Forgetting the immorality, the evil, the depravity of these people for a moment, aren't these people just the dumbest "crooks" ever?

Is this predilection hard wired in? Is it an addiction?
BillRM
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 10:21 am
@JTT,
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Forgetting the immorality, the evil, the depravity of these people for a moment, aren't these people just the dumbest "crooks" ever?

Is this predilection hard wired in? Is it an addiction?


They are far more likely to catch the dumbs ones so you do not get a clear picture of how dumb as a class of collectors happen to be or not as a whole.

Because of my interest in the technology of encrypting I had done searches concerning CPs and any cases were the police had run into that problem and it is very very rare for them to do so.

However there is something strange when for example an engineering prof openly view CP on a plane, have no protection on the computer and agree to searches and plenty must admit to everything before seeing a lawyer.

firefly
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 11:38 am
@JTT,
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Is this predilection hard wired in?

The causes of pedophilia really are not that well understood, although, so far, it generally seems to be regarded as learned behavior..
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Pedophilia
Some pedophiles are exclusively aroused by children, others are aroused by both children and adults.
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Is it an addiction?

Do you mean the child pornography collecting? I think that sort of behavior can have addiction-like properties, but, given the fact that pedophiles might not have frequent or ongoing opportunities for sexual contacts with a child, or might be afraid to risk such contacts, the child porn and masturbation might be their main sexual outlet, and the excitement of seeking out more, and collecting more, might acquire the characteristics of an addiction. The same can be true for those who become heavily involved in adult pornography.

The explosion of pornography on the internet has made such material easier to seek out and it's always available, and, because of that, more people are likely to wind up in legal/criminal difficulties because of possession of child pornography. And the abundance of child porn, and its sexually arousing effects, may increase the probability that more pedophiles will sexually molest and assault actual children if they become less able to control their urges.

These two articles offer a little insight into the development of involvement with child pornography.
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Special Reports Part Four: Confessions of a child porn addict
By Lou Michel and Dan Herbeck
August 20, 2010

Clarence A. Johnson once enjoyed the adult pornography sites he viewed on the Web.

But after a while, the thrill was gone.

So Johnson started clicking on some of the advertisements that popped up on his computer screen above the naked men and women he was staring at.

He was seeing something new — young teenagers, and even young children, posing in the nude, having sex with each other or being molested by adults. At first, the 49-year-old Batavia man was appalled. But once the shock wore off, Johnson couldnt get enough.

Like thousands of other men throughout the United States, he was hooked.

"It was a drive, something like a fix," he said. "I needed more, and if I didnt get it, I felt empty."

Johnson, a former greenhouse worker, is one of at least 100 Western New Yorkers prosecuted on Internet child pornography charges in the past several years.

Like most charged with this crime, he is a white male, although child pornography cuts cross socioeconomic lines.

"Ive seen men from many different walks of life," said David G. Heffler, a Lockport psychotherapist who is appointed by the courts to counsel child pornography offenders.

The men, Heffler said, usually fall into two categories. One group is the hard-core pedophiles and molesters, who use child pornography to indulge their fantasies.

A U.S. Postal Service study in the mid-1990s found 35 percent of men who view child pornography also molested children. A more recent study by the federal Bureau of Prisons found 80 percent acknowledged molesting children, even if never charged with the crime.

The second group Heffler identified are men — such as Johnson — who start looking at adult pornography but then "slide down a slippery slope" toward child pornography.

"Many men told me they started out looking at adult porn and never intended to look at children," Heffler said. "But after looking at adult porn for a long time, they get bored. They want to try something different. They start looking at children. Then, they cant get enough of it."

In court records and personal interviews, men convicted of child pornography cited several reasons for their obsession: depression, drunkenness or having been molested as a child.

"In counseling, I constantly remind them that these are not just pictures. Theyre human beings, children," Heffler said.

Some men know viewing the images is wrong but cant stop themselves.

"Many of these men thank our agents for arresting them," said Special Agent Holly L. Hubert, who leads child pornography investigations for the Buffalo FBI office.

Thats the case with one Buffalo man in his 50s who faces an upcoming prison term for possessing child pornography and also molesting young boys.

"I know its wrong, but I cant stop," he said. "I wish I knew why I do it. I wish they would examine me when I get to prison and tell me why I do it."

The man, who gave a jailhouse interview on the condition that he would not be quoted by name, said he was molested by someone he trusted as a child.

"Prison is where I belong," he said. "I dont want to hurt any more kids."

As for Johnson, he said he didnt realize what was happening to him as he gravitated toward pictures of younger and younger children.

Cloistered in his second-floor computer room — away from his elderly mother on the first floor of their modest home — he prowled the Internet at night, searching for pictures of young children.

In court, Johnson pleaded guilty to a state charge of possessing child pornography and was placed on probation for 10 years. He became a registered sex offender who cannot be around children or have access to the Internet.

Now in mandatory counseling, Johnson says he is learning to overcome his addiction by exploring his own sexuality and by participating in a program requiring him to imagine how the exploited children feel.

In one exercise, he wrote a letter from the perspective of a child in a pornographic image he viewed.

"I did not like the games we played, like touch and feel," the imaginary little girl stated in the letter Johnson wrote.

"I hate you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" the letter ended.
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/special-reports/article106547.ece


This writer is a pedophile--and that was probably the reason he sought out the child pornography. And now his fantasies and desires to sexually assault a real child are increasing.
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Need help with addiction to Child Pornogrpahy
7/16/2008

Hello,

I'm a good person, 20 years of age. I don't litter, I rarely swear, I try not to spit. I am currently studying at university. I love piano, basketball, soccer, tennis and table tennis. I have a younger girl cousin who I absolutely adore, she is 11 years old and lives in another state so I only get to visit her once a year.

Unfortunately there is a dark side to me. I know I am about to confess to a criminal offence but I am here for professional advice and help. I do not wish to be charged with the offence of possession as I do not believe I deserve to have my life taken away for something I stumbled over and got addicted to.

I like child porn, I'm ashamed to say that I download and watch and masturbate to child porn on a regular basis. Child porn can be obtained so easily through peer-to-peer software by anyone from anywhere. All you need is the Internet.

Please forgive me if I offend you, I'm describing it from my view.

I find younger (children's) bodies more sexually attracive, like you might compare the body of a 25 year old to that of a 45 year old. I like the child's soft un-aged skin and their smooth hairless genitals. Their innocence to sex acts and sexual pleasures gets me extremely horny. I would masturbate to it. After I climaxed and possess no sexual desire I come to truly see the how horrible child porn is. I hate to see those adorable little girls get molested by their own father, to be abused so cruelly. I really can't imagine what they'll go through once they grow up to understand what their father did. I can't imagine what I would do if it happens to my little cousin. I really HATE child porn then, I hate myself for watching it. I would then delete it and the next day I would get horny and download more and the process repeats.

You might think I am a sick pedophile, I agree and I want to change. I don't' want to be like this but I don't know how to stop myself. I know child gives the viewer incentive to carry out such acts to satisfy their sexual pleasure. I can feel it too, before I started to tumble over and then getting addicted to child porn I was normal. Now I see young girls everywhere more sexually attracting, I've also have very strong urges to molest my adorable cousin who I love so much. Even if I stop watching Child Porn, I still have many images and scenarios stuck in my head and I would fantasize and masturbate to it. I need some serious help.

My point is that I do find Child Porn VERY disgusting but when I am horny I become totally blinded and completely ignore my sense of morality. I want to get rid of this addiction, I want to change. I want my mind to be pure again. I am afraid that I will destroy a child's life some day especially my cousin's.

How can I help myself?
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Worst-Web-3072/2008/7/Need-help-addiction-Child.htm


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aren't these people just the dumbest "crooks" ever?

Their sexual needs, and the fact that the searching for child pornography may become a significant part of their lifestyle, probably cause them to downplay or ignore the risks of getting caught.


firefly
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 11:58 am
@BillRM,
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However there is something strange when for example an engineering prof openly view CP on a plane, have no protection on the computer and agree to searches and plenty must admit to everything before seeing a lawyer.

It's not strange. His sexual urges regarding children, and his need to view the child porn, might have become too strong for him to control, even in public.
Maybe he actually wanted to get caught. A good deal of shame and guilt can go along with the collecting and viewing of child porn.

If you had followed most of the news stories I've been posting, a very high number of these people confess to what they've been doing, mainly because they are caught with the evidence. And when the police or the feds show up at your door with a search warrant, you don't have much choice.
The professor really didn't have much choice but to let them look at his computer, and he knew it--they had two witnesses from the plane who saw him looking at the child porn, and one saw him trying to delete it. So, if he refused to allow them to search his computer, it was only a manner of time until they'd get a warrant.
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They are far more likely to catch the dumbs ones...

The government has gotten very good at identifying the people seeking, downloading, and sharing child pornography, and at finding the child porn on computers, even when it is hidden or encrypted. They are not going to publicize all the methods they use.
I wouldn't count on thinking you are too smart to get caught. Prisons are filed with people who think like that.
hawkeye10
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 12:34 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
It's not strange. His sexual urges regarding children, and his need to view the child porn, might have become too strong for him to control, even in public.
Maybe he actually wanted to get caught. A good deal of shame and guilt can go along with the collecting and viewing of child porn.


My understanding is that pedophiles are often morally troubled by their desires . In this case the guy almost certainly wanted to get caught, I am reasonably sure that his recent divorce was connected to his warped sexual desires, and that this ex prof was actively trying to finish the job of blowing up his life.

He was successful.
hawkeye10
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 12:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
I do not support pedophiles, my interest in this thread is our whacked out Amercian "Justice" system which barely even pretends to care about justice anymore. We see most clearly the failures of the justice system in how it treats those who are the most hated.

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WASHINGTON — As the Justice Department steps up an aggressive crackdown on Internet child pornography, a little-noticed provision of a sex offender law is making it harder for defense attorneys to review some of the most important evidence against its suspected purveyors and consumers.

In response to a section of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006, judges and prosecutors are requiring defense attorneys and computer forensic experts to examine digital pornography images on computers at government facilities, rather than receiving their own copies. Often, FBI agents stationed in the rooms monitor their activities.

The new provision has triggered an emotional debate about the constitutional rights of suspects who are accused of some of the most heinous crimes.

Supporters say the measure is needed to prevent children from being revictimized by unnecessary copying and distributing of the digital contraband. Many of the images gathered as part of the evidence depict very young children being raped and beaten.

"The law is designed to protect the rights and interests of child victims," said Andrew Oosterbaan, the Justice Department's chief of the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section. "I don't think there's a human being out there who wouldn't agree with its purpose."

But some of the provision's most vocal critics are former law enforcement officers and prosecutors, who say their ability to defend child-pornography suspects has been compromised.

"This has had a profound effect on defense work," said Wayne Marney, a computer forensics expert and former Oregon state trooper. "It could make a difference between whether someone is convicted or found not guilty."

Computer experts say a thorough examination of the images is crucial because malicious software and the widespread use of legal adult porn and popular file-sharing networks mean that suspects could have downloaded or sent child pornography unintentionally.

"Not everyone charged with child porn is some lecherous scumbag who is leering around corners in an alleyway," said Dean Boland, an Ohio defense attorney and former state prosecutor. "It is a fact that someone may have absolutely no idea that they have child porn on their computer until law enforcement seizes it."

Sometimes after examining the evidence, defense attorneys say, they've been able to clear suspects even before charges are brought.

In one case, a tenant who was in the process of being evicted accused his landlord, a teacher, of downloading child pornography. Authorities decided not to press charges against the teacher after New Hampshire defense attorney Michael Iacopino analyzed the computer evidence and determined that the teacher wasn't at home when the child pornography was downloaded.

"But the guy still lost his job," Iacopino said. "Even just an accusation is enough to totally destroy your life."

In what appears to be an unintended effect of the provision, defense attorneys technically could be prosecuted for possessing child pornography even if they receive copies legitimately as evidence in state cases.

In some states, attorneys and experts continue to get such copies because the law provides an exception for sharing evidence in state cases. But federal authorities have warned their state counterparts that the new restrictions apply to state cases as well as federal ones.

Boland stopped testifying in Ohio child-pornography cases after the FBI threatened to indict him for keeping copies of court exhibits from state cases.

The FBI searched Boland's home and seized his computers in 2005 — before the Adam Walsh act was enacted.

Boland had been allowed to testify that digital images are so easily manipulated that it's hard to determine the difference between real and fake child pornography. To demonstrate his controversial theory in court, he created composite images by merging digital photos of what appeared to be ordinary children with those of adult pornography. He selected the images randomly from the Internet and prepared them as court exhibits.

With the change in the law, defense attorneys and experts say, federal prosecutors are more likely to scrutinize them even for merely receiving a state prosecutor's evidence.

When he was asked whether defense attorneys and experts in state cases risk being prosecuted, Oosterbaan said "defense counsel who are acting pursuant to a valid court order know very well that they're safe." He said he couldn't elaborate because of Justice Department policy.

Federal prosecutors have indicated that they intend to apply the law to state cases. In Dallas, U.S. Attorney Richard Roper urged the county's district attorney not to turn over copies to the defense.

"Simply put, child pornography is contraband," Roper wrote in a letter to District Attorney Craig Watkins last May. "At this time, there are no known exemptions to this statute for state prosecutors to turn over contraband to defense attorneys."

Watkins' office didn't respond to questions. In an interview, Roper said he'd sent the letter at the request of the district attorney's office. He said he wanted to warn of the implications for cases investigated by a task force that receives federal money.

"We just want people to be careful not to hand this stuff out willy-nilly," he said. "It was not the intent of my letter to throw down the gauntlet."

Defense attorneys question why child-porn images should be handled differently from other contraband. Defense attorneys, for example, routinely get samples of narcotics so they can do independent analyses of the evidence for trial.

"It's almost a theological approach," said William Braniff, a San Diego defense attorney and former U.S. attorney under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush. "Prosecutors and agents can have copies. They can show those copies to the judge, the jury and their experts. Why deny the defense the same thing?"

Federal prosecutors and agents say they're simply enforcing a law that provides better oversight over child pornography. They dispute defense characterizations of the impact of the law and describe it as a minor inconvenience. So far, most federal district judges have concluded that the defense is getting sufficient access to evidence at government facilities.

Before the Adam Walsh act, authorities routinely sent defense attorneys and experts copies of digital images. After the defense reviewed the evidence, it would be destroyed or returned.

The arrangement allowed defense attorneys to hire experts who'd run tests on the computer hard drives, scrutinize Internet histories and determine whether the images were of minors or adults.

Because experts no longer can analyze the images in their own offices using their own equipment, the defense has much less time to examine the evidence, attorneys said. In addition, the cost of such services has increased — often by tens of thousands of dollars — because experts are required to travel across the country.

Prosecutors and agents, however, say they need tough new laws to make even a small dent in the proliferation of child pornography.

According to the Justice Department's most recent statistics, federal prosecutions of child-porn and abuse cases have increased almost 360 percent, from 344 in 1995 to 1,576 in 2005. Those numbers don't include prosecutions brought as a result of Project Safe Childhood, an initiative aimed at the prosecution of child-pornography cases that was launched in February 2006 by then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

Former U.S. Attorney Braniff said the new evidence provision of the Adam Walsh act was "definitely onerous for the defense. The question is whether it's unconstitutional."

In Ohio, a state court agreed to dismiss the charges against two of Boland's clients, concluding they could no longer get a fair trial without his testimony. Boland argued that he no longer could testify in any of his cases without risking federal prosecution.

To avoid federal indictment, he's agreed to stop creating the composite images for 18 months.

Boland's testimony had proved helpful to the defense. After hearing it, a state judge dismissed all digital child-porn charges against a defendant.

A detective, however, brought the court exhibits to the FBI's attention. FBI agents tracked down relatives of several of the children whose photos Boland had taken off the Internet, according to an FBI affidavit filed in federal court.

In the affidavit, FBI Agent Charles Sullivan said Boland had bragged publicly about keeping the court exhibits even though he knew federal authorities were investigating him, an allegation that Boland denies.

Officials at the U.S. Attorney's Office and the FBI in Cleveland declined to comment.

Boland now is being sued by the families of children alleged to have been depicted in the court exhibits.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2007/10/15/20501/lawyers-new-law-makes-child-porn.html#storylink=cpy
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JTT
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 12:43 pm
@firefly,
Given these reports, it seems that long sentences are of a rather dubious nature other than to fulfill the simplistic notion, "if they're in prison, they can't hurt anyone". But that reasoning, everyone who runs for office might well qualify for being incarcerated.

What of the young man who is screaming for help?
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2012 12:55 pm
@JTT,
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Given these reports, it seems that long sentences are of a rather dubious nature other than to fulfill the simplistic notion, "if they're in prison, they can't hurt anyone".


that is charitable of you, your being willing to assume that there is a good faith reason for this brutality. There is not, what is going on is "you are scum, so we will destroy you!"...it is all based upon unrestrained hate. It is emotion over reason, and we Americans should be ashamed that our "justice" system trades in this lack of justice.
JTT
 
  1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2012 12:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
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that is charitable of you, your being willing to assume that their is a good faith reason for this brutality.


I don't believe I gave that indication, Hawk - not even an aura of it.
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hawkeye10
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 01:09 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
What of the young man who is screaming for help?


the american answer is to lock him up as soon as we can for as long as we can. We dont think they can be salvaged, and we have no interest in trying, regardless of their desire for change.
JTT
 
  1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2012 01:19 pm
@hawkeye10,
Yes, I've noticed that quality in both Americans and the US justice system.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2012 01:24 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Yes, I've noticed that quality in both Americans and the US justice system.


America is becoming a less civilized people. Where you and I likely part company is that you seem to think that it was always thus, where as I see this is part of a great deterioration in the American people. Bad education is a big part of it, but this does not explain our current willingness to indulge in our emotions and our fantasies rather than to deal with reality and to do the work it takes to get to a better reality. We have given up, and I do not know why.
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firefly
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 01:41 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Given these reports, it seems that long sentences are of a rather dubious nature other than to fulfill the simplistic notion, "if they're in prison, they can't hurt anyone".

I don't know that the very long sentences, just for possession, serve any meaningful purpose either, other than to scare others from downloading and sharing, as well as keeping these defendants off the streets and away from children.

On the state level, the sentences aren't generally that long, but, on the federal level, all kinds of sentencing enhancements can factor in and greatly increase the sentence. Like the man, in a recent news story I posted, who received a sentence of 30 years for possession and receipt--that possession charge included a high number of images of infants and toddlers being sexually abused, as well as a video he made of himself abusing a 6 year old girl--so there were significant sentencing enhancements in his case, and they obviously wanted this man off the street for as long as possible. But, some of the sentencing enhancements, like the one for using a computer to obtain images, really should be thrown out because most defendants are using a computer now.

I think that they do need to have sentences high enough to have some definite deterrent effect, but not grossly out of proportion to the nature of the crime. And judges can, and do, sentence below the minimum guidelines when they think it's appropriate. There has to be some flexibility in dealing with individual cases. Some of these defendants pose a greater risk than others.

They do need to straighten out and rethink the entire sentencing issue because it's very inconsistent the way things stand now, and some of the sentences are far too excessive, and the U.S. Sentencing Commission is reviewing that issue right now.

I also think they should stop referring to this stuff as child pornography and find another term for it. These are images of child abuse, and just collecting this material contributes to the continued sexual abuse and sexual exploitation of children. Thinking of these images as records of a crime against a child clearly differentiates them from any sort of erotica. And many states charge those who possess child porn with contributing to the sexual abuse or sexual exploitation of a child, and that more clearly reflects the nature of the crime rather than just calling it possession of child pornography.
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What of the young man who is screaming for help?

I hope he sought out some treatment for himself. I wish more of these people would seek out treatment.

hawkeye10
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 01:45 pm
@firefly,
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I also think they should stop referring to this stuff as child pornography and find another term for it. These are images of child abuse


Wrong, what is called child porn now is any image that those who like kids get off on, there is very often no abuse of any child in the creation of such images. What you propose will not happen because it would force the state to keep to reasonable limits in their definition of contraband images.


That you are up here on A2K telling lies about how what the state now calls child porn is in fact images of child abuse is par for you....
firefly
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 02:15 pm
@hawkeye10,
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We dont think they can be salvaged, and we have no interest in trying

That's not true.

There are treatment programs, both inside and outside of prisons, but often treatment with pedophiles is not successful. But there is treatment.

Requiring them to register as sex offenders actually is some form of help because it imposes some form of external control, as does prohibiting them from using the internet or even using computers.

You disregard the whole idea of trying to protect children, but that is the goal. Pedophiles are a problem to society only when they act, whether it's to download and share child porn, or to sexually abuse an actual child. Otherwise, people, including pedophiles, can indulge in any kind of private sexual fantasies they wish--they just can't act these out with children, or seek out material that involves children being sexually abused, or that promotes children being sexually abused.

When 80% of those in prison for child pornography admit to sexually abusing/molesting a child, even if they were never caught for doing that, that tells you this is a very high risk group-and the risk is to chidren. And that's one reason the sentences for child pornography have gotten longer.

And it's not just the U.S., sentences for child pornography, including possession, have gotten longer all over the world in recognition of the fact that the consumer is the one who creates the continuing demand for production of more of this material. The issue is child safety and welfare.

firefly
 
  1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2012 02:19 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Wrong, what is called child porn now is any image that those who like kids get off on, there is very often no abuse of any child in the creation of such images.

And you say that based on your experience viewing child pornography?

hawkeye10
 
  1  
Sun 19 Feb, 2012 02:19 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Requiring them to register as sex offenders actually is some form of help because it imposes some form of external control, as does prohibiting them from using the internet or even using computers.

You disregard the whole idea of trying to protect children, but that is the goal.


In other threads I have linked to studies that show that Sex Offender lists are of zero value in cutting the victimization rate. Also that there never was any study done on the concept before the laws adopting it were put into force. Sex offenders lists scratch the itch we have to punish those whom we dont like, and that was all that they ever were supposed to do and is all that they do do.

You are once again peddling the Bull ****, as you do again with your bad guesses about my motives.
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hawkeye10
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 02:21 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:

Wrong, what is called child porn now is any image that those who like kids get off on, there is very often no abuse of any child in the creation of such images.

And you say that based on your experience viewing child pornography?




Based upon legal standards, and press releases from the state....for instance there is a teacher in LA who has been publicly flogged for pedophilia because he took pics of kids on the school yard playing.

Notice how you simply can not remain civilized?? It is a good example of what I was talking to JTT about....this low level of American civility which is epidemic.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 02:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
I think there is a real fear inside "human beings" where pedophilia is concerned and yes, something innocent can be deemed as guilty, like everything in life, people are judged which is wrong.

I think that there is no room in jails for pedophiles, what is the point in locking them up? Is it not an illness?

The 20 year old, suggests that he may have had this urge inside of him laying dormant until he got close to his cousin, 11 years of age. At that point, I'm guessing he checked out child pornography, perhaps his imagination or visualisation wasn't strongly connected and in doing so, he was able to imagine her and from there he's addicted and feels grosed out at his thoughts but can't help himself.

He's asking for help, and not to be locked up. But, I think Firefly is right, most treatments do not work, take away his man-hood is their answer and lock them away in an institution.

I do know of perhaps a real pedophile, I'll never know if he was or wasn't as he is dead.. I mentioned him before, he was asking for help. He was 40 and they say, he fell down stairs but he always told me he would take his life, I think he did.. He would tell me things that would anger me, his thoughts, whilst I tried to pull him back, sometimes I saw the real Carl, often I couldn't. I am no physcologist. He would tell me about all the steps the Institutions would take and claimed at some point his Mother put him in there, and he was in there, although email addresses were found to be false I doubt it.. I believe that there was some truth in what he wrote, and a lot not true, rather fantasy. But experiencing first hand how someone like that thinks it's scary.

I think he also wanted to get caught even if alot was only his thoughts and not reality. No where in our conversations had he ever touched a young girl, had he had claimed to have done so, I wouldn't have kept the communication open... But, he certainly did often state he didn't want to be that way, he knew he needed help, but castration was the only thing that anyone wanted to do to him and that scared the carp out of him.

You may judge me for befriending him, but as I said, alot of what he wrote I felt was not real, rather his thoughts and he never touched a girl, just wanted to. There is no harm in "trying" to help someone... And, like I said, he's dead at 41, at least I tried.


RIP Carl.

hawkeye10
 
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Sun 19 Feb, 2012 02:47 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
We are not responsible for our desires, they are God given for lack of a more modern way to talk about this reality. We are only responsible for what we do, and we should not punish people for life for looking at images which get them off, there has been no harm done which justifies this taking of freedom.

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I think he also wanted to get caught even if alot was only his thoughts and not reality. No where in our conversations had he ever touched a young girl, had he had claimed to have done so,


You will notice that the state has not claimed that our first class alleged porn user ever touched a kid wrongly, or that he ever created a wrong image of a child, he is only accused of being a consumer of such.
 

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