@hawkeye10,
Quote:.the presumption is that no harm has been done, the one who is accusing needs to prove their case.
Now your thinking is as confused as BilRM's.
There is no presumption that no harm has been done.
When criminal charges, involving child pornography, are lodged, there is a presumption of guilt by law enforcement.
The child pornography laws are based on the assumption that harm is done to the chidren involved when those laws are violated--that children are indeed harmed when they are abused and exploited in child pornography--including when their sexualized images are distributed and viewed. That is why child pornography is illegal. And that has clearly been stated, including by the U.S. Supreme Court. And that was previously posted, by me, in this thread.
The presumption of innocence refers to the defendant's legal status at the start of the trial. What must be proved, to a jury's satisfaction, is simply that the defendant violated the child pornography laws, that he is guilty as charged.
And the conviction rate in child pornography cases is over 90%--the evidence is generally clear-cut and unambiguous, which is why over 90% of the defendants wind up pleading guilty.
Trying to wave the Constitution doesn't make you any less of a creep. The U.S. Supreme Court does not agree with your rather fanciful interpretations of the Constitution when it comes to child pornography.
Wait for BillRM. His understanding of the law is as distorted as yours. He'll tell you you're right, he'll agree with you, you'll both make each other feel good and really, really important. BillRM buys your bullshit, he laps it up. You're a perfect couple. You don't need women interrupting your conversation--you boys have each other. Wait for BillRM.
All you want is an audience, an audience that is as uncritical as humanly possible, so then you can feel you are winning your imaginary debate, and pat yourself on the back, and tell yourself how you scored . And BillRM is your perfect audience. He uncritically slobbers over your every word and cheers you on, mainly because no one wants to listen to him, except you. Wait for BillRM, the two of you are made for each other.
