Dr. Conrad Murray Found Guilty

@BillRM,

We all depend on the state. You don't think safe drinking water, electricity supply and medicines are the result of parents acting independently do you?

You are engaging in sophistry derived from your brilliant and precocious insights at the age of ten from which you have never recovered.

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@farmerman,

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See what I mean firefly about the "sheet". Wave the stars and stripes and you win the argument. And the S&S are a creation of the state.

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@spendius,

It's an absolute joke that farmerman has been professionally engaged in education.

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@spendius,

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See what I mean firefly about the "sheet". Wave the stars and stripes and you win the argument. And the S&S are a creation of the state.

That is the most insightful post I've seen all day. Bill uses the flag to hide the fact he's an idiot. Any minute now he'll start going on about saving 'asses.'

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@izzythepush,

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So you don't use roads, rely on the police to enforce law and order, or your military to keep you safe from overseas aggression? 0 Replies

And where does the state get the resources to do all those wonderful things?

The state depend on the people not the other way around and even when they are working well they are just an agent for the citizens something you English seem to had forgotten.

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@BillRM,

And you've forgotten how to write a coherent sentence. You don't seem to realise that the state is the people, without it the rich can ride rough shod over everyone. You really should be voting for the Republicans Bill, they believe in all that small government mullarky.

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@spendius,

The state is suppose to regulate the power companies and the drug companies in our name and either supply the water or regulate who happen to be doing so.

However they are doing more and more of a **** poor job in the US being more and more in the pockets of the special interests they are suppose to oversee.

Just ask the people in California who got ripped off to the tune on 10s of billions of dollars in power cost alone by Enron as the state turn it head.

At best they act in our name as our agents and at worst they just pretend to act in our name as the agent of the power, water and drug compaines.

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@BillRM,

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However they are doing more and more of a **** poor job in the US being more and more in the pockets of the special interests they are suppose to oversee.

Bill, you're saying America is making a '**** poor job' of something, that can't be true surely? I thought '**** poor' was what all the other governments in the world are, and that America is as close to perfection as it is possible to get.

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@izzythepush,

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they believe in all that small government mullarky.

The GOP believe in government being control by special interests for the benefit of special interests not small government.

Government like fire make a wonderful servant and a very bad master something you English seem to had forgotten completely since WW2.

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@BillRM,

You have no idea how government or anything else operates over here. You just swallow any ridiculous scare story you read, like the UK banning kitchen knives. I've told you before, I don't take advice, or lectures. from idiots.

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@BillRM,

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you English seem to had forgotten.

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you English seem to had forgotten.

You're doing a lot of seeming Bill for one page.

The LA legal, media and medical establishments seem to have raked in a lot of $$$$$$s out of what was an obvious accident. Their compassionate concern for the loss of one life out of the millions occurring every day is a credit to them. Big time. They were trying to get MJ twenty years in the tank not so long ago. Natalie Wood is next.

And in evolution animals leave their dead to the vultures and maggots.

Did you know that a painful common condition in the US many years ago known as "stiff spine" was miraculously cured by judges stopping awarding damages for it? That's serious faith healing.

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@izzythepush,

Scare stories carry by the BBC among others sources........

You had all kind of crazy restrictions of anything with an edge now in place so the idea that kitchen knives will not sooner or later follow is not at all unlikely and a matter of fact there is a redesign project as far as I know still ongoing to redesign such knives to be sold in the UK.

Your government does not trust you with normal everyday knives and are moving one way or another to take them away from you by redesign and time or by other means.

The issue is still in play.

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@spendius,

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out of what was an obvious accident

Strangely not one person here had disagree that it was an accident and that does not make it one less bit of a crime given the laws and the conditions this accident happen under.

Similar laws that had been apply in similar cases in the UK as a matter of fact.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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you English seem to had forgotten.

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you English seem to had forgotten.

You're doing a lot of seeming Bill for one page.

The LA legal, media and medical establishments seem to have raked in a lot of $$$$$$s out of what was an obvious accident. Their compassionate concern for the loss of one life out of the millions occurring every day is a credit to them. Big time. They were trying to get MJ twenty years in the tank not so long ago. Natalie Wood is next.

And in evolution animals leave their dead to the vultures and maggots.

Did u expect them to do something better??

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

In the UK Dave, and in some Commonwealth countries, we have the Crown Prosecution Service which is responsible for deciding which prosecutions go forward to trial. The head of the CPS is directly responsible to a politician who is a member of the cabinet. The staff are civil servants. Police investigations are reported to the CPS for a decision on prosecution. Such decisions are taken "in the public interest" by a body independent of the police, the legal establishment and the interested parties to the case.

Are LA prosecutions subject to these safeguards or do those who will profit from prosecutions decide whether they are proceeded with?

If a modern caricaturist was to imitate Cruikshank or Rowlandson he might well show an LA legal establishment banquet at which a number of clean-shaven and well turned out suits were holding knives and forks expectantly as a large Propofol pie was carried into the chamber on an industrial trolley.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

In the UK Dave, and in some Commonwealth countries, we have the Crown Prosecution Service which is responsible for deciding which prosecutions go forward to trial. The head of the CPS is directly responsible to a politician who is a member of the cabinet. The staff are civil servants. Police investigations are reported to the CPS for a decision on prosecution. Such decisions are taken "in the public interest" by a body independent of the police, the legal establishment and the interested parties to the case.

Are LA prosecutions subject to these safeguards or do those who will profit from prosecutions decide whether they are proceeded with?

The District Attorney is not related to the police force.

David

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@spendius,

There seems to be a condition in the US in which the sight or sound of unusual scientific sounding names results in grown men becoming starry eyed, weak at the knee and with anal sphincter all a twitter. This condition seems also to delude some of these men that the mere ability to spell these scientific terms, or copy them out, is sufficient proof that they are qualified practitioners of the notorious scientific method, which is not for the faint of heart, and when peer-reviewed by others in the same condition--hey presto--they are.

But when a long and very dreary succession of communications emanate from these men which constantly betray the total absence of the scientific method in operation in their thoughts one is inescapably lead to the conclusion that they are nothing but a bunch of posturing fuckwits trying to row their very particular boat ashore at everybody else's expense.

I like this 'seems' method.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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The District Attorney is not related to the police force.

I bet he is related to important doyens of the legal establishments though.

Correct me if I am wrong Dave bit it seems to me from this case and from others I have seen that the link between prosecutors and political responsibility is weaker in the US than it is here.

Has the US Attorney General any inputs into the decision to prosecute DSK and Dr Murray?

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@spendius,

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we have the Crown Prosecution Service which is responsible for deciding which prosecutions go forward to trial.

An I had already on this thread posted examples that are similar to the MJ case that were indeed prosecuted under your system so what is you point?

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@BillRM,

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Your government does not trust you with normal everyday knives and are moving one way or another to take them away from you by redesign and time or by other means.

Absolute rubbish, like most of the bollocks you spout.

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