Dr. Conrad Murray Found Guilty

@BillRM,

Best policy Bill. When you get caught with your pants down you should hide your head. It wasn't me who introduced CM's record in sending multiple copies of his genes into the future. It was firefly.

And it was one giant mistake.

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@spendius,

"...to believe one knows is ignorance."

Hippocrates.

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@spendius,

>>>"above all else, do no harm"...
ditto. MJ was not guilty of violating any oath of a license (as Dr Murray WAS). can you even absorb what the assigned responsibility of a medical license is all about???

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@farmerman,

Come on fm--I want an answer to how it is possible to condemn CM's sterling and exemplary reproductive behaviour which it is difficult to praise enough from an evolutionary point of view or from the point of view of the "selfish gene" and at the same time be in favour of teaching such principles to the next generation and all succeeding ones. How does one condemn the principles one is promoting?

I feel sure that CM was not trying to do harm. Are you saying he was? His was an extremely unusual patient. Possibly no doctor before him was ever in such a position.

We don't create regulations to take account of extreme cases. We create them out of the normal and those states near to it.

Anyway--explain the other matter for us if you will so we can be clear about where you stand on the very important matter. It has been the underlying principle of my position for all the time I've been on the evolution threads and reading wande's quotes in media from sources now condemning evolutionary behaviour of the most pure and pristine form which even a monkey understands.

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@spendius,

We on the good doctor breeding behavior and not only is that completely beside the point but from an evolution standpoint of pack animals it is hardly a moral one.

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@BillRM,

Well in that case why did firefly quote the passage and why did those from where she got the information write about it?

Don't tell me something is beside the point when I'm picking up on a point somebody else has made.

The cat's out of the bag. What does it have to do with me if some of you are in denial of the fact?

In fact, and I hinted at it earlier, the vanity dressing of Dr Murray could be seen to be in the service of attracting higher quality females, as the peacock does, so that the robust physique and superior intelligence of Dr Murray can increase in numbers in the forthcoming generations. The whole point of the selfish gene is that it doesn't give a damn about $800,000 debts.

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@spendius,

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The man who would become embroiled in the controversy surrounding the King of Pop's death in June 2009 did not come from money. With his mother Milta spending most of her time in Trinidad and Tobago in search of better paying work, Murray lived with his maternal grandparents, two Grenadian farmers. His fractured family life was compounded by the total absence of his father, Rawle Andrews, a Houston area physician who, up until his death in 2001, focused his career on offering medical services to the poor. Conrad didn't meet his dad until he was 25.

At the age of seven, Murray relocated to Trinidad and Tobago to live with his mother, where he became a citizen and finished high school. Like Milta, Murray was determined to make a better life for himself, demonstrating at an early age a propensity to work hard. After high school he volunteered as an elementary school teacher in Trinidad, an experience he followed with work as a customs clerk and an insurance underwriter in order to pay for his college education. Murray also wasn't afraid to take advantage of an opportunity. At the age of 19 he bought his first house, then later sold it for a decent profit to support his university tuition in the United States.

In 1980, two years after first visiting Houston and getting a chance to introduce himself to his father, Conrad Murray returned to Texas to enroll at Texas Southern University, where in just three years he graduated magna cum laude with a degree in pre-medicine and biological sciences. From there, Murray followed in his father's footsteps and attended the primarily African-American Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tennessee.

Upon graduating Maharre, Murray enrolled for additional training at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and then completed his residency at Loma Linda University Medical Center in California. Other training stints followed; he studied at the University of Arizona on a Cardiology Fellowship, and landed back in California, where he eventually worked as the associate director for the interventional cardiology fellowship-training program at Sharp Memorial Hospital in San Diego.
Practicing Medicine in Las Vegas

In 1999, Dr. Murray left California for a second time and struck out on his own, opening up a private practice in Las Vegas. Locating his office just east of the strip, Murray—again taking a cue from his father—aimed to serve not just the city's wealthy, but its under served as well. In 2006, Murray expanded his scope and returned to the city where his father had made a name for himself to open the Acres Homes Heart and Vascular Institute.

No nepotism there. Very superior genes I would say.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

>>>"above all else, do no harm"...
ditto. MJ was not guilty of violating any oath of a license (as Dr Murray WAS). can you even absorb what the assigned responsibility of a medical license is all about???

Keep it up fm. Splendid job of keeping him focused away from the evolution threads.

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@edgarblythe,

Don't kid yourself ed.

Will you explain, as fm seems unable to do, how a perfect example of a man following every principle of evolution theory has been castigated by those who are promoting that very theory. I presume due to a residual belief in Christian morality.

Forget the jejune wisecracks. They impress nobody of intelligence so it is reasonable to assume that you perceive the audience to be stupid. And I don't.

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@spendius,

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you perceive the audience to be stupid. And I don't

That's because you are talking to yourself--you're your own audience, and you think you're brilliant.

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@firefly,

It's not me that's brilliant ff. It's that some of the company I find myself in makes it look that way.

"Dalee not good- rest sheeet." Salvadore said.

I mean to say old girl----I've got the evolution lobby pinned to the wall on this reproductive performance of Conrad Murray. Absolutely!! They are floundering as you can see.

I have known all along that it isn't science they are interested in.

Do you know the ethnicity of the five brood mares? I can see a Houston Cowboys linebacker and the gold medallist in the 2028 and 2032 Olympic ladies shot putt as a possible result and I'm just as entitled to predict such things as you are.

From a farm in Tobago to MJ's choice of personal physician, with a black skin, is some feat. I'm nowhere near that brilliant.

I don't think that the coroner's verdict that the Propofol killed MJ is anywhere near as scientific as a verdict concerning bullet wounds.

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@spendius,

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I've got the evolution lobby pinned to the wall on this reproductive performance of Conrad Murray. Absolutely!! They are floundering as you can see.

Sorry as once more we are pack animals and as such fathering children and then not supporting them is not repeat not in line with the evolution welfare of the human race.

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@spendius,

One thing we do know about that coroner's verdict is that it spawned a cottage industry worth a very large number of $$$$$$s. And we know whose pockets those $$$$$$s are now in. Roughly.

I saw an item last night which suggested that there are so many helicopters in the air over LA that nobody there can enjoy an uninterrupted night's sleep

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@BillRM,

Children are supported by society. The idea that they are supported independently by their parents is ludicrous.

You're out of your depth Bill.

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@spendius,

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I saw an item last night which suggested that there are so many helicopters in the air over LA that nobody there can enjoy an uninterrupted night's sleep

I am surprise with the whirling noise of all those millions of surveillance cameras that you can sleep at night either even if they are more quiet then the helicopters.

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@spendius,

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Children are supported by society. The idea that they are supported independently by their parents is ludicrous.

You're out of your depth Bill.

Only the children father by losers are force to depend on the state.

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@BillRM,

We all depend on the state.

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@spendius,

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We all depend on the state.

Oh I forgot you are English...............

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@BillRM,

(The coveted 5 high smiley award)

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

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We all depend on the state.

Oh I forgot you are English...............

So you don't use roads, rely on the police to enforce law and order, or your military to keep you safe from overseas aggression?

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