America making it harder to vote? WTH?

didn't you at several points claim to be an American?

I can neither confirm nor deny those several points, Hawk.

You might want to check the dictionary for the meaning of 'deceitful'.

1. The action or practice of deceiving someone by concealing or misrepresenting the truth

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didn't you at several points claim to be an American?

I can neither confirm nor deny those several points, Hawk.

Now that I have proven that I understand the English language

You can. You choose not to.

Not giving you my personal information doesn't come anywhere close to that definition.

I for one have had more than enough of your bashing America for all manor of crimes as you yourself practice poor morals.

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I for one have had more than enough of your bashing America for all manor of crimes as you yourself practice poor morals.

That's a new one, Hawk and I must say it is certainly a good match for your intellectual level.

I'll have to remember to let T2L know about this new meme.

I think that 99% of A2K'ers are bright enough to spot evasion

. You're doing it right now with this bit of nonsense, nonsense which you have tried before.

all manor of crimes

your lack of respect for your peers.

It's not uncommon for specific types of electoral fraud (i.e. voter registration fraud and ballot stuffing) to be referred to under the broader umbrella of election fraud or voter fraud.

So voter registration fraud is a relatively benign scam, because the only guys getting cheated are the ones who paid for the bogus registrations.

I know, do you believe the Republicans didn't take back the Senate too? What kind of a moron votes for Harry Reid?

all the laws under consideration that would make it harder for Americans to vote

but I imagine that it is an effort to fight against voter fraud,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

So voter registration fraud is a relatively benign scam, because the only guys getting cheated are the ones who paid for the bogus registrations.

That's correct. Registering fictitious voters doesn't affect the outcome of any election, since those fictitious voters never show up to the polls.

But you've avoided the question of why anyone would pay to have registration lists padded with non-existent individuals.

You can't imagine any way in which that would be step one in a viting fraud scheme?

but I imagine that it is an effort to fight against voter fraud,

Don't bother reading it, Dave. We'd just have to get someone to explain it all to you and no one is willing to do that.

Go back to sleep.

Why would any state do anything that would make it harder for it's citizens to vote?

I'm responding directly to the initial post, without having looked at the rest of the thread.

boomerang wrote:

Why would any state do anything that would make it harder for it's citizens to vote?

Off the top of my head, I can think of two reasons:

• legislatures want to make it impossible for non-citizens to vote, and
  
• they want to make it impossible for citizens to vote in districts they're not living in.

If that makes voting more difficult for the legitimate voters, legislators may consider that a price worth paying.

Personally, I don't see the big deal for either side of the conflict.
I'm not aware of any evidence for more than minimal election fraud, so why bother?

But I also don't buy that demanding an ID or a driver's license discourages voting on a big scale. Back in Germany, we always had to produce an ID at the voting booth; it didn't prevent the turnout in our national elections from being way higher than America's. (Anywhere between 70% and 90% during the 20 years that I voted in Germany).