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Two weeks into Occupy Wall Street protests, movement is at a crossroads

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jan, 2012 08:22 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
That is understandable as these videos are not for everyone's liking.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jan, 2012 08:23 am
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jan, 2012 08:34 am
@izzythepush,
Take no notice Finn. It's a great money saver. Diogenes recommended it . Bismark was so fond of it that his name has come to be a polite expression for it.

Quote:
The Duke will be a few minutes late Your Majesty. He's Bismarking again.


It's the non-wanking married men who are in trouble. They are just venting their spleens to compensate for their weary woes. Have you seen them holding their wives' little hands in the DIY stores browsing for another instrument of torture. A pasting table for example. Or a Black and Decker Workmake. Half a week's wages often enough.

When the TV joyfully announces that sales of DIY equipment are 5% up on the same period last year, slavering, what they mean is that male torture levels are up by that amount. And think of the jobs lost by all that doing-it-yourself and they all moan about there being not enough jobs. And poor old Mr Obama is expected to create some.

TV= Male Torture.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2012 06:00 pm
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Builder
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2012 01:38 am
This is worth a look. Satirical, but rather comical too....

The Robber Barons of Wall Street

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amNO_QJzaQ8
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Fido
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2012 10:14 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

He does seem to have quite a bit in common with Sid.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TckBPcfObVc/TbYFSfLHBnI/AAAAAAAAABo/mNRaYjuGG4o/s1600/scan0382b.jpg
Alright, now!!! Where'd you get my picture???
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 12 Jan, 2012 10:46 am
@spendius,
Clearly I was referring to others, but, considering it's widespread utilization, it's not much of an insult after all.

I'm actually disappointed in myself that I used it, but then I don't spend anytime on soapboxes declaring that one man inserting his phallus in another's bunghole is perfectly natural, so it's more childish on my part than ironic or hypocritical.

Come to think of it though, it's often the fellows that do, in this forum, who rely so heavily on the use of that particular practice as an insult.

I appreciate your solicitude nevertheless.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2012 01:19 pm
This seems to be the #1 occupy song out there.

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wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2012 01:49 pm
Quote:
Chicago aldermen approve Emanuel's G-8, NATO protest crackdown
(By Kristen Mack and Hal Dardick, The Chicago Tribune, January 18, 2012)

The Chicago City Council today easily approved measures to tighten parade rules, increase fines and give Mayor Rahm Emanuel power to spend money on a pair of May summits of world leaders.

Dozens of protesters concerned about what they say are the mayor’s attempts to muzzle free speech stood outside council chambers during the debate shouting “now let us in” and “we vote no.”

Aldermen, satisfied by Emanuel backing down on aspects of the plan for the G-8and NATO meetings, voted 45-4 to approve the parade crackdown. Earlier, aldermen voted 41-5 to give Emanuel blanket spending authority.

Emanuel's plans to deal with the protesters has faced a wave of criticism from aldermen concerned that the new rules would only antagonize protesters.

Ald. Leslie Hairston, 5th, who voted against a series of changes to the city’s parade ordinance, she said the city has to be careful how it regulates and potentially inhibits a spontaneous assembly.

“I still have concerns about freedom of expression and civil liberties,” Hairston said. “These are subjective, people can be (punished) for expressing themselves.”

Ald. Joe Moore, 49th, praised the mayor for scaling back his original proposal and said that the debate about the changes led to “overheated rhetoric and over-the-top hyperbole.”

“The challenge for us as lawmakers is to strike a balance,” between enforcing the law and giving people the ability to “redress grievances,” Moore said.

The mayor had proposed doubling the maximum fine for resisting arrest to $1,000. Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy offered a substitute ordinance at a City Council hearing Tuesday that keeps the fine for resisting or obstructing a police officer at a range of $25 to $500.

"You listen to people and you hear them, that doesn't mean you don't make alterations," Emanuel said Tuesday. "I haven't changed the objective."

The goal, Emanuel said, is to host world leaders, give people the ability to express their views and enforce the law.

Other restrictions that were approved include opening public parks and beaches at 6 a.m., two hours later than currently allowed. Loud noise, amplified sound and music at parades would be allowed only between 8 a.m. and 10 p.m.

Emanuel also had agreed to reduce fines or otherwise revise proposed changes to the city's rules on public demonstrations. Protest and civil liberties groups expressed concern that the changes — which would cover all future public demonstrations — were too severe.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2012 04:23 pm
@wandeljw,
Good for Dead Fish!

The protests at these economic meetings are never peaceful, no matter where they are held.

If Chicago could be assured that Occupy demonstrations remained civil, this action wouldn't be necessary. At last a liberal mayor recognizes his primary duty is the city he runs, and not ideological bedmates.

Of course Rob never would have wasted much time with Occupy. The incompetence would have sent him swearing in frustration.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2012 07:16 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Occupy people here in Chicago are walking around with signs showing a photo of Rahm Emanuel and the words "Mayor 1%".
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 19 Jan, 2012 11:15 pm
@wandeljw,
It's funny when an erratic, radical minority making up less than even 1% of the populations tries to smear anyone by referring to them as the dread "1%."

No matter what Rahm plans, there will be blood...or at least broken glass and burning cars.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jan, 2012 06:22 pm
Have any of you figured out which political party the occupy movement stand with?

Seems to me that they think both parties are one. This is pretty much the way I see it myself.


Occupy Charleston Protecting Their First Amendment Rights

Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jan, 2012 12:54 am
The latest folly is Labor opposition to the right to work legislation in Indiana chanting "Occupy The Super Bowl."

Please, please, please...send Union goons to disrupt the Super Bowl!
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jan, 2012 07:28 am


Spoiled brats that blame hard-working, successful people for magically causing the failures of their own lives. Occutards have been coddled by their parents from birth and given everything they want without being expected to work for it. Now grown, they expect the government to arrive in place of their parents and provide everything their hearts desire for free. Furthermore, they believe that camping out in front of a random bank/government office will accomplish this goal. Can be heard regurgitating Marxist slogans, demonizing "the rich", whining about the inequities of life and condemning "evil corporations" for destroying their "fair chance". Occutard camps allow them to return to their natural state of not bathing, defecating/fornicating in public and participating in drum circles. Their ultimate goal is to create the occutard utopia in which the nanny-state plunders money from the productive members of society and "redistributes" it to them, removing any necessity to ever work.
Fido
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jan, 2012 01:56 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

Have any of you figured out which political party the occupy movement stand with?

Seems to me that they think both parties are one. This is pretty much the way I see it myself.


Occupy Charleston Protecting Their First Amendment Rights

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khYEq3zD9pM[/youtube]
The parties are the two faces of a past that never was where no one was rubbed out for a quick profit...

Injustice must be fought as more than a weekend exercise done to make everyone feel jusified in having a six pack and a half pound burger with cheese... At least the 99 are giving the job some time, and the more life they invest in it the more they will want it to pay off...
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Fido
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jan, 2012 02:02 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



Spoiled brats that blame hard-working, successful people for magically causing the failures of their own lives. Occutards have been coddled by their parents from birth and given everything they want without being expected to work for it. Now grown, they expect the government to arrive in place of their parents and provide everything their hearts desire for free. Furthermore, they believe that camping out in front of a random bank/government office will accomplish this goal. Can be heard regurgitating Marxist slogans, demonizing "the rich", whining about the inequities of life and condemning "evil corporations" for destroying their "fair chance". Occutard camps allow them to return to their natural state of not bathing, defecating/fornicating in public and participating in drum circles. Their ultimate goal is to create the occutard utopia in which the nanny-state plunders money from the productive members of society and "redistributes" it to them, removing any necessity to ever work.
Only artists of some sort ever were successful by working at it... The key to success as we see it is to have wealth without labor or responsibility... That is what makes it fun...
I don't think you are capable of saying what they believe; but I would bet real money that they think some one should do some thing, and that sitting around blaming other victims as you choose is not the answer... Everyone is getting poorer... Why should the poor hold the poor at fault... You believe in tangible justification... Having wealth is the only proof needed that wealth is deserved... Join the world... People are beginning to see things in a whole new light, and sight is essential to problem solving... You ain't got it so you don't get it... Tough tittee... Learn to live with stupidity or drop dead; because you will never figure it out...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 21 Jan, 2012 03:08 pm
@Fido,
Now, that's what I call the "sermon on the mount." LOL

People like waterboy doesn't see the middle class and poor's loss of jobs and homes, pay increases that do not keep up with inflation, and the unequal distribution of the worker's company's profits that favors the CEO's and officers.

Since waterboy talks as if he's in the 1%, I wonder what his tax liabilities are?

Fido
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2012 10:58 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Now, that's what I call the "sermon on the mount." LOL

People like waterboy doesn't see the middle class and poor's loss of jobs and homes, pay increases that do not keep up with inflation, and the unequal distribution of the worker's company's profits that favors the CEO's and officers.

Since waterboy talks as if he's in the 1%, I wonder what his tax liabilities are?


I faun upon the rich every time I get around them, which is seldom enough... And talking as one brown noser of another, meaning waterboy, I see that he like so many identifies with the rich because their wildest and most impossible dreams find them rich, and powerful, and influencial and admired as they admire the rich; and the thought of being rich and being challenged on their morality, or being despised as heartless unpatriotic peasants raised above their means on the suffering of so many in despair- sort of ruins the dream for them... And he is clinging to his dream...

We all have our little fantasies, but it is the fantasy life of the middle class which keeps so many of them supporting the reality of the rich... The nightmare of the many is the fantasy of the few, and asking them to examine the implications of their dreams, or of riding their dreams mentally to their ultimate conclusion only wrecks it for them...

Irresponsible wealth makes the wealthy responsible for terrible injustice and suffering... When they do not pay to have their empire abroad defended, then the very people who lay their lives on the line to defend it must pay for the honor... And there is no cure...If to protect the poor from unjust taxation you must immunize the rich from all taxation then you have ever less to be taxed for and ever less to pay taxes with...

The poorer people are, and the more they must endure poverty in their youths, the more people will dream of changing places with the rich, and so, the less they will seek justice for all... Wealth is the stuff dreams are made of, and whether people are rich or poor, they are unlikely to see the reality through the veil of their dreams... Dreaming of wealth is all Waterboy with know of wealth... I am a world champion Brown noser, but I have to set the limit at my nose... Waterboy has no limit to his adoration of the rich and powerful because he is poor and weak... If he could clear his head, he would try to clear his shoulders, and if he could do that he would climb whole into the bowels of the wealthy, and seek rebirth as their child, but they would not see him ever as their lost love, but as the child of fate that he is...

I adore the rich because they are often, from my experience, a wonderful, cultured, and gentle class of people...Waterboy loves them because they are anything but that in reality... I hate the poor because they are dirty, grasping, selfish, uneducated, and cruel; and I forgive them because I see in their behavior what has been done to them, and what has been taken from them, and I want for them only justice, realizing that they cannot advocate for themselves because they want revenge more than justice...

People need morals in order to have a life, and a condition worth defense, and when we buy into our system of government and economy we must abandon morality, and then we have abandoned our sole defense... A moral person whether rich or poor would see that we are all in the same boat here, and that security bought for one by insecurity for all does not make a secure socitey...

People feel they must be free of guilt to cast the first stone, but the first stone was cast a long time ago, when people were taught that inequality and injustice were their bread and butter... That is the point where all great injustice begins, when ones honor is bought for a triffle, for wages that are not worth our work, or worth a moment of our limited live... Few go so far as waterboy, and become curs for the cause of wealth... Most people simply grow more hopless and desparate with time, and never take it out on other victims...

It is as bad to blame the victims for the tragedy of their lives as it is to credit the rich for the carnival of their lives...We are in it together, and if it is not working for the poor, it is not working for the rich... And you hear them complain: It is not easy being rich... Being rich does not make you happy... Really??? Just try being happy and poor if you think being rich is not happiness... I am certain that many poor would agree, that if they could escape their misery for an hour or a day that their misery would be more barable than it is without escape... People like waterboy wish their misery on others without the means to defend themselves from it, or to escape from it... The sheep have no choice but to be sheep... Dogs have the choice of whether they will be wolves or sheep dogs... Water boy is a mutt, but he identifies with the wolves, and that makes him feel like a man...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2012 11:31 am
@Fido,
That sound even closer to the "sermon on the mount."
Water boy learns every thing he knows from the propaganda machine
I bet he does no non-bias research at all to verify that his thinking correct.
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