Two weeks into Occupy Wall Street protests, movement is at a crossroads

Long but interesting.

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@roger,

roger wrote:

I just realized something; the Occuppants are using "99%" in exactly the same way the USSR used "Peace Loving Workers". It's become a stock propaganda phrase.

Care to expand on that?

The 99% mantra is objectively defined. How is it even comparable?

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@failures art,

Both are positive sounding, but meaningless stock phrases.

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@reasoning logic,

Not at all sure what you're babbling about this time. Was this Hitler of yours a well known Soviet propagandist?

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@roger,

My bad I thought you may have been a Glenn Beck fan. Laughing

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@RABEL222,

So you believe that someone has the right to seize someone elses property as an expression of free speech?

So if I disagree with you on something I can co set up camp in your front yard, for as long as I like, doing whatever I like, and there is nothig you can do about it?

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@mysteryman,

Yes, please do that!~ You ignoramus! Also, please make sure it's you, so we'll all know your threats has some meaning to them.

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@cicerone imposter,

He might bring a few hundred pals ci. with all the distasteful elements of gatherings in the open.

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@roger,

roger wrote:

Both are positive sounding, but meaningless stock phrases.

I don't agree.

Whereas one is a piece of top down rhetoric from a totalitarian beaurocracy looking to keep people in control, the other is an objective identity used to characterize democratic "horizontalism."

It's also not so positive to be in the 99%. It's not like it's so great to be a part of this group. The point in fact is very much that the group is pretty much the lamest place to be, but it's our reality. Pledging our loyalty and worship of the wealthy 1% will not be rewarded. The only positive is that in your struggle, you're not alone.

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@failures art,

The distinction between the 99% and the 1% is based on money. Isn't that granting too much significance to money?

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@wandeljw,

Not really; if the middle class keeps losing ground while the 1% continues to get richer, it's more than about $. It's about survival for more people as long as this shift of wealth to the rich continues while the middle class continues to lose ground.

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@wandeljw,

wandeljw wrote:

The distinction between the 99% and the 1% is based on money. Isn't that granting too much significance to money?

I don't believe so. Specifically because of what money has come to mean in terms of representation. If money distorts of subverts democracy, then people are right to object. People just feel disenfranchised, they are disenfranchised. Money has become a weighted coefficient in representation.

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@failures art,

failures art wrote:

roger wrote:

Both are positive sounding, but meaningless stock phrases.

I don't agree.

I'm quite sure you don't. I'm equally sure your intentions are good.

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Are the occutards still in the news?

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A diminished Occupy camp remains after deadline passes;
2 blocking Atlantic Ave. arrested

Occupy Boston protesters breathed a sigh of relief today after police decided not to raid the two-month-old
downtown encampment, extending an increasingly tense showdown between the demonstrators and the city.

Cheers erupted after Superintendent William Evans announced just after 1 a.m. that police had no plans to
clear Dewey Square.

Evans made the announcement as the protesters had moved into Atlantic Avenue, singing and chanting, “This
is what democracy looks like” and “The people united will not be defeated,” as they blocked the street. Police
shut down the road to keep cars away from them.

Some protesters, however, seemed determined to risk a confrontation with officers on the street. They brought
three tents into the street, though they later pulled back and left only one tent.

Around 3:20 a.m., police pulled a man and a woman who both appeared to be in the 20s out of the tent they
refused to vacate.

Evans said two were charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. As they were being led into an awaiting
police wagon, demonstrators chanted, “Occupy, we love you,” and other slogans.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Are the occutards still in the news?

They are moving out in Lansing... The weather in Michigan can be sort of brutal... They would find their efforts better served if they would simply knock on the doors or every known republican, and invite themselves in, and let those idiots know what is thought about their support for injustice... I think the problem is that too many people who should be shot on sight are free to voice their opinions and cast a vote... At some point, those who are certain they are in the right must find the courage to do what is considered morally wrong by those who use morality to advance their immorality...Standing out in the cold and snow acting like so many victims is not getting it... The war is going on already, but it is way too peaceful...

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Occupy Boston protesters get visit from Police Commissioner Edward Davis;
some praise police restraint

Under the watchful eye of city police officers, about 40 Occupy Boston protesters remained in Dewey Square
this morning -- with some promising to stay in the encampment and others searching for a new way to push
their political message.

“There hasn’t been victory yet,” said 21-year-old Devon Pendelton. “We have a lot more to do.”

He said he had made space for more protesters and a busful were en route.

Boston Police Commissioner Edward F. Davis visited the scene at 8 a.m. Some of the protesters applauded
the muted police response to the encampment during the past 24 hours.

In contrast to other cities where police forcibly ended encampments, Boston police did not make any mass
arrests after a midnight deadline passed early today, nor did they move to forcibly evict the Occupy Boston
protesters.

Nonetheless, 10 police officers remained on scene.

“Your guys were the best last night,’’ Philip O’Connell, 44, a carpenter from Amherst who has lived in Dewey
Square since the third day of the protest, told Davis.

The commissioner declined to say whether the city would ramp up the pressure against the remaining protesters.

“I don’t want to talk about our immediate plans. We see progress being made,’ he said. “Slowly, we will clear
the place out. We are just looking for reasonableness.’’

Two weeks into Occupy Wall Street protests, movement is at a crossroads

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