The horror of Sept. 11th, 2001

Those who make extraordinary claims do have a burden of proof.

Would you prefer that I stoop to individual malice and name-calling?

You've already been engaged in that.

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You've already been engaged in that.

You'd need to show me exactly where I've engaged in that, Setanta.

Won't be the first time you've been wrong.

Hmmm, now I know what they mean by Shrill.

Get off your high horse and read some.

You know, I really enjoy your posts, Setanta.

Even these ones where the spittle is flying all over your keyboard.

Where you and I differ is, I don't take this personally.

Those with more than two nickels to the dime are shaking their collective heads at the feeble excuse for an explanation, and you, in your smug little corner of insular correctness are demanding an explanation of what intelligent minds are proposing?

For once in your secluded self-protecting life, look outside of your bubble, and take a breath of the air around you. Suck it up.

It won't poison you. It might, in fact, be a joy to your lungs.

You've stated your case re the former admin, and their manipulation of fact and fantasy, and yet you feel obliged to defend them against percieved threats. Curious fantasy-based patriotism. Not sure if I should applaud you, or recommend you for committal.

Oh no, i made my case in spades. You're obviously too dishonest to admit that your snide remarks, you sneering tone were intended to insult from the outset. I'm not surprised. You're not doing at all well here. I'll be interested to see how you deal with Parados. How long before you start sneering at him?

Get off your high horse and read some.

Even these ones (your posts) where the spittle is flying all over your keyboard.

For it to NOT be an extraordinary claim that no airliner hit the Pentagon, you need to address the following:

1. Why did numerous eye witnesses see a plane go overhead at low altitude before the Pentagon was hit?
2. Why were plane parts found at the Pentagon including parts of a 757?
3. What happened to the airplane and the people on it if they did not hit the Pentagon.

no impact zones were found for the heaviest and most indestructable units attached to the fabled plane.

On the inside wall of the second ring of the Pentagon, a nearly circular hole, about 12-feet wide, allows light to pour into the building from an internal service alley. An aircraft engine punched the hole out on its last flight after being broken loose from its moorings on the plane. The result became a huge vent for the subsequent explosion and fire. Signs of fire and black smoke now ring the outside of the jagged-edged hole.

It's not reactive (another attempt to insult), it's nothing to do with the playground (another attempt to insult), it's not puerile (yet another attempt to insult)--it's just descriptive. I am claiming you are dishonest because you are saying that you did not intend to insult, after i've listed several of your insulting remarks. Your denials are absurd. Anyone with a lick of sense can see what you were up to. Too bad for you that it didn't work. As i've already said several times, you have a burden of proof. You haven't met it. Continuing to attempt to portray me in an insulting manner won't change that. You've got nothing going for you here.

Furthermore, you're now attempting dodge your earlier bullshit in which you described the 911 Commission as a "rushed investigation."

Lee Hamilton, Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission – Former 17-term Congressman from Indiana. Former Chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Currently President and Director of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and serves as a member of the President's Homeland Security Advisory Council.


CBC video interview transcript regarding Without Precedent a book about the 9/11 Commission authored by Chairman Thomas Kean and Vice-Chairman Lee Hamilton 8/21/06:

Lee Hamilton: I don’t believe for a minute that we got everything right. We wrote a first draft of history. ... People will be investigating 9/11 for the next hundred years in this country, and they’re going to find out some things that we missed here.

Evan Solomon: The first chapter of the book is 'the Commission was set up to fail.' ... Why do you think you were set up to fail?

Hamilton: Well, for a number of reasons: ... we got started late; we had a very short time frame - indeed, we had to get it extended; we did not have enough money - 3 million dollars to conduct an extensive investigation. We needed more, we got more, but it took us a while to get it. ...

We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people. ... So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail. ...

Solomon: I guess the question is, you know, if forty odd million dollars were spent investigating President Bill Clinton’s sexual infidelities, why did the American people and the world have to wait 441 days for a commission [to begin its work] that was originally budgeted for 3 million dollars and given barely a year [to complete the investigation]?

Hamilton: I think basically it’s because they were afraid we were going to hang somebody, that we would point the finger, right in the middle of a presidential campaign - 'Mr. Bush, this was your fault' ..."

http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/911hamilton.html