Atheism speak your mind about religion

reasoning, you haven't even made a first step. We have gone from you wanting me to know what that woman on the video had to say to a bunch of garbled thoughts.

Can't you just briefly try to tell me the point of that video? Is it truly that difficult to do? If it is, then why would you think anyone could understand it?

I will try but I was trying to stay away from your religious beliefs in hopes to not offend you further!

This is your original post that I was responding to.


Today's "Christianity" has plenty of women in position in the church. People have been changing that for a long time.

Why do people think God should change with the times? God is not here to serve us. We are here to serve him. Those are my beliefs. They might not be yours but seriously, why does the creation think the creator should change to accommodate the creation?

I said that I see things close to how the lady in the video did.
From my observations from the many hours of studying the bible I came to the conclusion that not all of the authors of the bible were very favorable of women and what changed is our understanding of morality has evolved and with that our religious beliefs about morality have also evolved for the better!

The lady in the video was pointing out many things in the bible that showed that women were not much more than property!

Like I said, what makes the creation think they know better than the creator? God has a reason for everything He does. Not everyone agrees with that. That's life. I, for one, like the idea of an old fashioned marriage. I don't need to feel equal to anyone. We are all unique in our own ways. Not everyone believes alike and that is just the way it is.

I do agree with you completely! This is the observation that I enjoy studying Do you have any ideas of what could cause these beliefs and uniqueness?

I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out why people believe what they do or don't. For years I wanted an answer to that. I finally accepted I'd probably never get one and just realized you believe or you don't.

What I am referring to at the moment has nothing to do with religion! When I say belief I am talking about belief in general Political, economic, values, so on and so on. There are many different type of beliefs.

When you made this comment were you referring to religious beliefs or all beliefs in general? {you believe or you don't.}
Your quote: I gave up a long time ago trying to figure out why people believe what they do or don't. For years I wanted an answer to that. I finally accepted I'd probably never get one and just realized you believe or you don't.

Have you studied neuroscience, neurophilosophy or psychology to see if there could be any value in them?

I wonder if any of them would help to understand how the mind works. I kind of have this feeling that there could be more than just the mind involved here!

Science has never interested me in the least. Yes, I was talking about religious beliefs when I said you either believe or you don't.

I have always been amazed at what science has been able to accomplish but I was not very interested in finding out all that I could about it when I was younger.

I started gaining a stronger interest in learning more about reality only a few years ago after finding out that I have the largest library in the world at my finger tips. {the internet}

What I have found is that there are many specialist in their fields of science that share there findings with the world, and what I do is study all the subjects that I find interesting generally, "I do not study them as a specialist would because that would take more time than what I have on this earth to study them all.

I have found that it has giving me a more correct understanding of reality than what I previously had.

I have also found that many if not all people speak about matters they have never researched or they possibly researched with a bias. that is like speaking about physics and never having studied anything more than algebra.

I see this happening in so many areas of knowledge!

Don't get left behind? There is no swearing in this video that I can think of!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_83E3mz8dng&feature=channel_video_title

This man speaks his mind about religion and he thinks that Jesus has been used by the church in the wrong way. I share some of his view points on this as well!

I do not recall any swearing in this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4shqQJDdCA&feature=channel_video_title

Okay is there some reason you wanted us to hear that man telling us Christians that Jesus is all in our imagination?

Look, you believe what you want. I have no problem with that. It's everyone's right but I'm not going to look at anymore of your links. It seems you only want to find some way to mock others' beliefs. If I'm wrong about that, I am sorry, but that is what it appears like to me.

And don't get your panties all in a wad thinking I'm offended. I wouldn't stand in front of a speeding bus and I wouldn't stay and talk with someone that thinks I'm delusional because I believe in God.

Maybe you are correct in what you are saying because I am not certain but what I gathered from what he was saying is that all of us {Christians and non Christians alike} have to imagine what we would perceive Jesus to be like because we have never met him in person {at least I never have} " most people have only read about him" and there are many people that disagree about how he would be.
Have you ever had a Joseph Smith type of experience?

I am not a MORMON! reasoning, I thought you wanted to have a civil discussion but all you have done is post stuff that mocks believers. That's not a discussion.

I am not hear to make fun of or poke fun at believers but to only get them to question what they believe.

If I believed that it was OK for my goat to ride in the passenger seat of my car with me and that my wife should wear an Islamic burka and ride in the trunk with the lid open should I be questioned about my belief or would it be wrong for you to do so?

Are there things that are to taboo to be questioned?

And just why do you think I need to question what I believe? Because I don't believe the same things as you do?

I have tried to {not} make this about your beliefs but about others that you do not share the same beliefs with and if you were to be intellectuality honest with yourself you would know that this is true.

Why can't we make this about other beliefs that you do not agree with?

Please do not think that when I am talking about Islamic or any other belief system that I am talking directly to you or about your belief.

Is it too taboo to question other peoples beliefs?

You have tried to not make this about my beliefs? Now, who is being intellectually dishonest here? First, you post a link with some foul mouthed woman and from what you said she ain't too happy with God or something to that effect. Then you post a link where some guy tells believers it's all in their imagination.

So please, explain to me how that is NOT about my beliefs?

There is a big difference between questioning someone and making statements like "it's all in their imagination." That's not questioning anything. It's declaring it to be a fact.

And MAKE UP YOUR MIND! You said you wanted to get me to question my beliefs so how can this not be about my beliefs if you are trying to get me to question them?

Yes I would like for you to question your beliefs but I do not think you are ready for that yet!
I will try this one more time! Are you willing to talk about other beliefs that you do not agree with. If so why don't we go there?

I prefer to go there but if you have to think that this is all about you I am not sure if what I have to share will be of any value.

I have no problem talking about other beliefs reasoning but I am not going to engage in a conversation where you or some link has decided what the outcome should be (i.e., it's in my imagination). I am not doing that to you am I?

Look like I said, you seem like a nice enough person and I am guessing you are either pretty young or maybe from another country.

If your intent is to try to get me to change my beliefs then please don't waste your time or mine.

It is getting late and I have to wake up in 5 hours so I will finish this later.

I do have a question for you though! Should other people question their beliefs? How about pedophiles and rapist and so forth?
Could there be other religions that should question their beliefs or do you think all religions use logical reasoning and should not be questioned but just believe what they are taught?