Atheism speak your mind about religion

I don't think anyone here is mental. I just think that some people have very "warped" views on certain topics. I know that Guigus is very intellegent in many aspects, and I have a feeling that Dasein may be as well, but I'm really not sure about JPLosman0711

Consequences.

...You have yet to see other horizons behind the horizons you have seen so far...

There are several different implications to this statement, what do you mean specifically?

You are correct I should have chose a less offensive word. I still question all mental states not that anyone is stupid!

I didn't believe it to be offensive at all, I think that it was more of a humorous term.

What process do you use to evaluate a persons mental state? I believe that everyone is unbalanced in some way to some degree so there's not really any "control" that you could use. If you compare their mental states to your own then either you're mad, or everyone is...or both, but it wouldn't really answer as to how far "out there" they are with any degree of accuracy.

I agree I am new to the many subjects that I am studying so you will see me make mistakes along the way! Have you heard any of this man's speeches?

He is a gentleman but the person that introduces him comes off a little hateful so beware people of faith and skip the first 60 seconds!


Sam Harris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3YOIImOoYM

The problem with religion is that it's such a vague idea that people can interpret it in so many different ways, it's just a matter of how you rationalize it. People focus on what they want to in order to accomplish whatever goal it is that they are looking for whether it's for good or bad. Sam Harris is interpreting the bible and the cause of what other people have done in regards to their interpretations to satisfy his own agenda. He does make some good points but the entire message that I think I'm understanding from him is a little far out there and I don't agree with it. He's trying to interpret religion into something that is bad and terrible when it's not. The bible doesn't shoot people, the Quran doesn't blow people up and deities don't come out of the sky and annihilate entire villages, states, or countries. Religion is simply a "channel" for belief which is the most powerful thing that we know and belief itself is neutral and can be used for both good and bad. It's what caused the bloodiest war in history which was WW2, but there are also many different organizations that provide a vast amount of assistance all over the world such as Operation Blessing, Samaritan's Purse, Hand of Hope, etc.

Why is it you want to speak so much AGAINST beliefs? Do you have any idea what it really means to be a Christian? Anyone can claim to be a Christian but it doesn't make it so. Do you think Jim Jones was a Christian because he said he was? A Christian is known by their fruits (their lifestyle, their behavior, how they treat others, etc.). If some man is preaching to 600 people and says drink this kool-aid and we are all going to die I can guarantee you that man is not a Christian.

Unfortunately, people in this world look for someone to follow and most of the time they want it to be someone tangible or they want to get rich, or a million other reasons so they fall for all the ear tickling "ministers" out there.

Of course the bible can be misinterpreted and often is and quite often it is jaded by what the reader WANTS to believe. I don't think anyone can deny
that. It's why we are supposed to study so that we really understand what the bible is saying instead of what some want it to say.

Believe me, I know how people view Christianity today and quite honestly, I can't lay all the blame on their misunderstanding what Christianity is. I've talked about going into Christian Chatrooms before and in those rooms you will find every kind of "professed Christian" you can imagine. You have the love fanatics, the hate fanatics, the oneness people, the trinitarians, and so on and so on. The people that acctually try to use Christ as their excuse to hate, bash, berate and insult others make me cringe. I'm sad for them because they don't understand the love of God at all. I'm also angry about them because of the way they "represent" Christianity.

It's not like I have never done any of that myself, because I have. But, I have studied and I have learned how wrong I was. All I am saying is you cannot put ALL Christians into one basket. You can't put one race into one basket, etc. There are good and bad in everything. Maybe if people spent a bit more time trying to really understand what it is they are speaking so violently against, it would be a good start.

Christians follow Christ and I really can't think of too many people that have a whole lot of bad to say about what He taught.

I will respond to the two of you later, right now I have this terrible head ache!
I would like to say thank you for taking the time to hear him out.
I will respond as soon as I can and I will go into depth more than I have so far.

I hope you feel better soon.

With over 38,000 different denominations for Christianity, I'm relatively certain that no one has any idea what it really means to be a Christian anymore or knows what the heck the bible tells us, and with so many denominations, it would be impossible to fit them all in a single basket. People don't misinterpret Christianity, they just don't all support your interpretation, people believe what they want in order to support their other views. The Westboro Baptist Church is probably the most hateful church in the country if not in the world but they actually believe that is what God is about and they spread their "message" in an extremely abominable ways. So basically everyone has their own little meaning and you're obviously no exception. People will always see things differently because we are all different, it's just a matter of which flag they sail under.

About 75% of all headaches are caused by dehydration so you can try drinking between 16 and 32 ounces of water. Just a little fun fact in which I hope helps as well.

Good point!

I spent a few hours in and around Amelia Island today, I think that it was the smoke! The fires in Georgia are affecting Florida.

Not all beliefs, even you think that Jim Jones had some beliefs that should have been questioned?



I would not say that I wanted to believe what I believe.
I would prefer that the bible was more in line with what I thought Jesus was teaching.
Do not get me wrong because I find value all over the bible old and new testament but I can not say that it is all valuable to me!
I sure wish that it was different than what it appears to me because I certainly do not want it the way I see it.

I am very happy that you have become more educated in your understanding of ethics from the bible, it did the same for me!

I will be glad when the garden is all in the freezer and in jars, this is the first time I have ever did that and it does take up allot of my time.
Work all day come home pick veggies and feed animals,
I do not have to do it, 'it is only a hobby and I love the taste!

If you think the Westboro Baptist church is Christian you didn't read a single word I said.

Does anyone know if any of this is true?
If you see something that is false please share it with us so that others will not believe things that are not true! Thank you.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Evid3nc3#p/c/A0C3C1D163BE880A/18/MlnnWbkMlbg

You obviously either don't or couldn't understand my post. There are over 38,000 different denominations of Christianity, they all have big and little differences between them. 2 things are obvious about the Westboro Baptist Church (in regards to this), first is that they believe themselves to be "Christian" and the second, you don't. The reason for this is because you don't agree with their interpretation of the religion. That's a fault on both side (depending on the prospective) you are wrong to them and they are wrong to you. Based on your post I'm well aware that you believe them to not be Christian, what you fail to realize, is that in their eyes, you aren't either...that's the whole point. In all of your close-mindedness, the only person that's right, is you. Anyone that believes any different or does things you don't agree with, then they are shunned and stripped of their title of "Christian". You preach about understanding and acceptance but all you seem to do is reject everything outside of that closed little mind of yours and you don't even realize it...

Closed little mind of mine? I see. So much for civility. I don't care to continue in our discussion. I don't see a reason to insult you and I am sorry you feel you need to insult me because I disagree with you.

I will say one more thing though, I suppose you thought Hitler was a Christian too because he said so? Good day to you.