Obunga: Palestine must be based on 67 borders........

I would have put it down to tall poppy syndrome and how easy it is to do nothing but criticise those who do .

Very contemptable.

The kick in the head involving Israel is that the only legitimate prior claims on the lands in question belong to the Jews and not the "palestinians".

Golda Maier was basically correct in her view that there is no such thing as palestine or as a "palestinian". Mark Twain found mostly just empty space on his visit to the Holy Lands in the late 1800s, other than for a few nomad tribes, and Jerusalem was basically a ghost town. "palestinians Are basically just other arabs who moved in for jobs after the Zionists made something out of the place.

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Where do you plan to put the Israelis ?

[It is of course your right to arbitrarily select some components in the very complex struggle over Israel & Palestins as more important or significant (to you) than the others. However that also implies that you acknowledge the obvious bias and lack of impartiality that involves. The fact is the Syrians used artillery on the Golan heights to shell Israeli settlements South of Tiberias and on the West Bank of the Jordan just below Galilee - that's why Israel took the heights in 1967. That, plus the history of Syrian opposition to Israel and indeed the continuing state of unresolved aggression that exists between Syria and Israel, are valid Israeli concerns, and, practically speaking, inseperable from the Palestinian issues on the West Bank and in Gaza. Both sides are using precisely this kind of selective treatment to rationalize the continuation of the present rather unsatisfactory situation. I find it odd that you should do the same. This was the same "logic" the radical IRA and Unionist elements in Northern Ireland used to rationalize continued murder and oppression. It led nowhere.

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Where do you plan to put the Israelis ?

In Israel, not Palestine.

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I write about the sort of thing that happens on a day to day basis, and you cherry pick the figures for Palestinian rockets fired during the Gazan conflict.

I don't see you talking about war crimes for the 1400 Palestinians killed during the same period including over 300 children.

Or the deliberate shelling of a UN hospital despite being told of its whereabouts three times.

Unfortunately so much Western Media is biased in favour of Israel even the BBC which normally is very imparial The Israeli embassies are very accomplished at persuading various media organisations of their point of view.

The charge of anti-semitism is a powerful one, and the BBC is frightened of being perceived in that way.

Palestine is almost always viewed as the provocateur and Israel as responding to a threat.

An Israeli Apache helicopter fires missiles at a Hamas official in Gaza. The official is killed but so are schoolchildren who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Israel calls this 'regrettable,' but offers no apology to the parents of the children, making the same claims that they always try to minimise civilian casualties.

Palestinian militants fire a glorified firework into Israel in retalliation, which 99% of the time explodes harmlessly away from anyone, and are immediately condemned as terrorists deliberately targetting civilians.

I think both of these actions are wrong, but it's only the Palestinian action that's viewed as terrorism.

The only mainstream newschannel that reports what's going on in Palestine without fear of the Israelis is Al-Jazeera, and I prefer to watch their reporting on Israel than any other channel.

One thing I did find rather disconcerting was the way Netanyahu was given a standing ovation by your Congress. You can correct me if I'm wrong, (and I'm sure you will), but it looked to me if Republican members of Congress were using international affairs to settle domestic issues. As Obama is more concerned with wanting a resolution of the problems in the Middle East, the Republicans are set against it. That's also coupled with some weird fundamentalist Christianity that seems to feature in your politics. This also seems to ignore the fact that what Obama said about borders is not that different from what Bush said.

As Obama is more concerned with wanting a resolution of the problems in the Middle East, the Republicans are set against it.

I'd be quite interested to find out what Cameron, Sarkosy and Obama have been saying together regarding Israel. Obama seems to be quite happy to let Europe take the driving seat in Libya, I wonder if he's asked the EU to apply a bit more pressure on Israel. Your Congress seems to be more concerned with scoring points against Obama, than trying to deal with issues in a meaningful way. I welcome your comments.

It seems premature to me for a citizen of the country that allowed itself to be bribed to release the convicted assassin of many Americans on the PANAM flight that crashed at Lockerbie to now criticize us for not joining you in solving a problem in your own neighborhood - particularly one coming from the same tyrant who bought you off earlier.

America’s Terrorist Training Camp
October 30, 2001

What’s the difference between Al Qaeda and Fort Benning?

By George Monbiot. Published in the Guardian 30th October 2001

“If any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents,” George Bush announced on the day he began bombing Afghanistan, “they have become outlaws and murderers themselves. And they will take that lonely path at their own peril.” I’m glad he said “any government”, as there’s one which, though it has yet to be identified as a sponsor of terrorism, requires his urgent attention.

For the past 55 years it has been running a terrorist training camp, whose victims massively outnumber the people killed by the attack on New York, the embassy bombings and the other atrocities laid, rightly or wrongly, at Al-Qaeda’s door. The camp is called the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, or WHISC. It is based in Fort Benning, Georgia, and it is funded by Mr Bush’s government.

http://www.monbiot.com/2001/10/30/americas-terrorist-training-camp/

The Death of a Terrorist… No, Not That One.

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And speaking of bin Laden, even after the horrific events of September 11, 2001, when President George W. Bush declared to the world that any nation that provides safe haven for terrorists is as guilty as the terrorists themselves, Orlando Bosch and his ilk were living it up, sipping sangria under the subtropical South Florida sun, utterly unconcerned about ever facing justice in the United States.

Multiple foreign countries have requested their extradition to stand trial for their crimes. Not only has the United States refused these requests, it has also failed to recognize the men as terrorists. Not only does America harbor these criminals, a sizable percentage of one our nation’s largest metropolitan areas approves of their bloody deeds. When Orlando Bosch was arrested after returning to the United States, most Cuban-American businesses in Miami shut down in protest. When he was freed, there were parties.


http://morallowground.com/2011/05/03/the-death-of-a-terrorist-no-not-that-one/

Also regarding Lockerbie, he was released under Scottish law by the Scots. I live in England. If you want to learn a bit about the difference between the two legal jurisdictions you could try googling 'Ryan Giggs.'

Yes, how about Israel recognises international law.

one of the worst war crimes of the last century

Yes, how about Israel recognises international law.