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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 03:38 pm
@spendius,
So are you agreeing with my general take that men have abdicated our responsibilities, and that as a result America has been swallowed by the hysterics created by the female hormones? I dont see where you Brits are much better off, and Europe is falling too it seems.

But then you have given up, decided that nothing can be done, which is certainly not the honorable position.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 03:55 pm
@JTT,
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It wasn't even allowed to get to the point where Nixon would be charged with his crimes before he was shielded both by the rule of law government and the press.


JTT do you know anything about the Roman Republic period of history?

One problem they begin to had was when one person and his faction let power and their immunity from prosecution ended the incoming group tend to used the state legal system to attack them.

For that reason there was less and less willingness of the in power group to leave power and instead of smooth transfers of power they started to have civil wars.

If the Democrats or the Republicans begin a habit of prosecuting the other for “crimes” when in office we are going to go down the same dark road.

You need to sharply limited such behaviors for the stability of the country.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 04:22 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
JTT do you know anything about the Roman Republic period of history?
A question for you Bill, how much of our current troubles do you attribute to the failure of the American education system, specifically the failure over the last 40 years to teach civics, and over the last 20 to teach anything close to an objective truthful version of history?

I am now 95% sure that the current trends indicating a failure of our democracy are directly caused by the fore running failure of the education system. .....do you concur??
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 04:35 pm
@BillRM,
There's no need to explain to me, Bill, that the US is a lawless country. Explain that to the millions of dead innocents around the globe.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:05 pm
@hawkeye10,
Yes--I do agree hawk. But why should I bother if a small proportion of indignant neurotics want to bugger everything up for women.

Has it struck you yet that this cleaning woman has the DA's office by the short and curlies?
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:07 pm
@hawkeye10,
When have I ever claimed to be "honorable"? I'm a scientist. I only deal in facts.

Does the NY DA think a $7 an hour cleaning women is worth less than a $1000 dollar an hour DA?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:15 pm
@hawkeye10,
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specifically the failure over the last 40 years to teach civics, and over the last 20 to teach anything close to an objective truthful version of history?


Hawkeye it is always helpful to teach history in a frank manner and not in a rose color glasses manner that tend to be used in high school classes especially in relationship to our own country history.

One very small example is the in fighting for control of the Continental Army between Washington and two of his Generals as such matters are hardly ever cover.

Such information would in my opinion gives the students an understanding that we are dealing with real men with great strengths and great weaknesses not demigods.

Poor Washington as dealling with the British military was only one of his problems the other two were dealing with Congress and his own subordinates.

Hell the real reasons that the power/business elite of the Colonies did not care for the changes in the way tea was to be tax was because it harm the profit in smuggling tea not because of any high principles concerning being tax without representation. Too bad that the current so call tea party members do not know how the elite pulled one over on their great great great great grandfathers and seems to be doing the same once more to them.

However the problem even if we started doing our very best to give the true facts as we know them, is that the subject field of history is enormous and can hardly be deal with in a meaningful way in a few High School courses.

Still I agree we should try harder.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:16 pm
@spendius,
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But why should I bother if a small proportion of indignant neurotics want to bugger everything up for women.
You said before you edited....

Because the measure of a man is what he cares about, and how well he takes care of his family and those close to him.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:21 pm
@BillRM,
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Such information would in my opinion gives the students an understanding that we are dealing with real men with great strengths and great weaknesses not demigods.
That is reasonable, but we in my opinion long ago went over the line into a PR campaign in the schools and elsewhere to diminish the reputation of dead white guys, and to discredit masculinity. I see no profit in such lies and attempts are social change through brainwashings.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:21 pm
@BillRM,
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JTT do you know anything about the Roman Republic period of history?


I know a bit about it. I've read dozens, maybe hundreds of books about the period, but I don't suppose for a minute that I know more that 0.1% of what happened.

A slave girl was once asked how many men she had had sex with and she said "None". She admitted however that many men had had sex with her.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:29 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Because the measure of a man is what he cares about, and how well he takes care of his family and those close to him.


I do my best in that regard hawk. I discourage all the females from reading women's magazines.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
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specifically the failure over the last 40 years to teach civics, and over the last 20 to teach anything close to an objective truthful version of history?


There's never been an objective truthful version of history taught in the USA, Hawk. Such a notion is pure nonsense. There has only been an incessant stream of pure propaganda. Look at the movies, pretty much since movies began, that have been glorifying the USA in complete defiance of reality.

It's so bloody obvious that only brain dead idiots like Oralloy, Finn, Gob, can still keep spouting the nonsense. They too know, but they, each in their own way, keep on keeping on with the myths.

WikiLeaks has just exposed the surface of a deep and virulent cancer. And you know what, it doesn't have to be this way. There are actually many countries in the world where people enjoy a decent standard of living without raping and pillaging the poorer countries of the world.

There are actually countries around the globe that give aid to other countries without forcing them buy from that country. That's what you call generosity, that's what you call real aid.

The US gives food aid, that has been heavily subsidized for US farmers, for the sole purpose of ruining the food production of these poor countries, which then allows US agribusiness to gain entry. More raping and pillaging, with just a better disguise.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:34 pm
@JTT,
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There's never been an objective truthful version of history taught in the USA
Fair enough, but you would agree that we used to do better, yes? I would much rather have a lesson skewed towards trying to drum up American pride than the current one that is a thinly veiled PR campaign for muli-culturalism and feminism.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
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I would much rather have a lesson skewed towards trying to drum up American pride than the current one that is a thinly veiled PR campaign for muli-culturalism and feminism.


I couldn't agree more,Hawk. Teaching about multi-culturalism and feminism have been the direct cause of everything from Native American genocide right up to the illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 05:51 pm
@JTT,
You know JTT you would greatly and I mean greatly increased you credibility if you would not be such a one note concerning the US.

Sounding like the worst of radio Moscow during the 1950s is counter produced in selling your points of views or at least so in my opinion.

We all know what you will post in advance concerning the US IE that the US is the most evil world power in history and never done anything that was not evil.

Not only is it not true but it wiped out most people willingness to listen to you even when you happen to have a valid point.

Such as history at the public school level had never been taught frankly in the US as far as I am aware of.

Second comment, this history bias is hardly uncommon for the other nation states on this planet and you had been showing a ridiculous level of anti American bias in your postings.

I did enjoy listening to Radio Moscow in the late 50s to 60s and the one note view of the world they was broadcasting I expected but for an individual to be posting such in 2011 is crazy.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 06:06 pm
@BillRM,
You keep trying this 'shoot the messenger' BS, Bill. That illustrates an ignorance that I thought wasn't even possible for you.

It's not me. It's those pesky things that are known as facts. It's the historical record that comes from US government sources, from US government officials, from leaked government documents, from people who have survived US slaughters, from American organizations, Americans who have gone to these places and been witness to these atrocities.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 06:57 pm
@BillRM,
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US is the most evil world power in history and never done anything that was not evil.


It's in the running, Bill, that's for sure. I opened a thread specifically for the purpose of discussing the good things that the US has done. You know what, there wasn't a single offering.

Would you like me to give you the link?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 07:06 pm
@JTT,
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Would you like me to give you the link?
Yes Please
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 07:17 pm
@hawkeye10,
http://able2know.org/topic/165349-1
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 21 May, 2011 07:18 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
It's not me. It's those pesky things that are known as facts. It's the historical record that comes from US government sources, from US government officials, from leaked government documents, from people who have survived US slaughters, from American organizations, Americans who have gone to these places and been witness to these atrocities
.

I know dear but you do need to get some mental health treatments as it can not be good for you to have such an irrational hates of one country.

In any case even those every once in a blue moon you had a point it is not worth the trouble to dig through all your irrational nonsense to find them so off to my ignore file.

Take care……………..and good luck in life.
 

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