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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 06:35 am
@BillRM,
Ah--but Bill, the reported ones are merely the tip of the iceberg.

The "Romantic Movement" is based on hypnotising females with sweet sounds and words to grant consent which would be withheld if there was no hypnosis.

If you go into a restaurant on Valentine's Day you will see a lot of females who are going to get shagged later for the first time since the previous Valentine's Day.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 06:36 am
@spendius,
BTW--Don't confuse keen observation with cynicism.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 03:17 pm
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn asked a judge on Monday to dismiss a civil suit filed by a hotel maid who accused him of sexual assault, saying he was immune from such a suit under international law when it was filed in early August.
His lawyers also argued that the allegations by Nafissatou Diallo impeded the International Monetary Fund "at a time of worldwide financial crisis and instability," according to the motion to dismiss filed in New York state Supreme Court in the Bronx.
A grand jury had indicted Strauss-Kahn, the former IMF managing director, based on the woman's accusation that he had forced her to perform oral sex in a luxury suite on May 14.
But prosecutors later asked a judge to drop the criminal charges because they had lost faith in her credibility, and the judge dismissed the case.
Lawyers for the onetime French presidential hopeful argued his position as IMF chief granted him diplomatic immunity that extended even after his resignation until he was free to return to France.
Strauss-Kahn returned home to Paris late last month when prosecutors decided to abandon their pursuit of sexual assault and rape charges against him.
"This court must dismiss the complaint against defendant Dominique Strauss-Kahn because, under controlling international law that all federal and state courts are bound to apply, Mr. Strauss-Kahn was immune from civil suit," the motion said

http://news.yahoo.com/strauss-kahn-seeks-dismissal-civil-suit-maid-201559351.html
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 03:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye if I was him I would let her lawyers keep pouring money into this lost cause as long as they willing to do so.

Of course such actions as asking for the civil suit to be drop due to international law might just be a means of running her lawyers around and spending funds.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2011 03:43 pm
@BillRM,
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Hawkeye if I was him I would let her lawyers keep pouring money into this lost cause as long as they willing to do so
That is the plan....I will be interested to hear a legal opinion but my guess is that todays motion is primarily a shot across the bow of THompson, that he has been put on notice that this case is going to take many years to finish, as DSK has a clear shot at taking this up to SCOTUS. Forget two years, this case could no easily take double that. This is a grudge match now just as I long ago predicted...Sinclair is willing to spend millions to make sure this scam artist bitch gets not one single dime from DSK for ruining her husbands chance at the presidency, that while she can run her games for profit with the State of New York and with Accor she gets nothing from DSK.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 01:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
This is an attempt to try to claim that DSK is immune from civil prosecution--that he is somehow "above the law". Laughing

If anything, it reflects the fact that DSK's lawyers are the ones worried about the civil suit. That's why they are trying to get it dismissed.

He had no diplomatic immunity in the criminal case, and he has none in the civil case. This tactic won't work, but you can't blame his lawyers for trying.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 01:48 pm
@firefly,
Yes I can see how a jury hearing from law enforcement investigators how she lied over and ever to them and even did a hell of a acting job of emotional retelling the story of a gang rape that never happen is going to find for her.

If I was DSK I would be highly concern....NOT

But if a was him and his wife I would enjoy bleeding her low lives lawyers of money as long as possible.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 01:53 pm
@BillRM,
They are concerned enough to want to get the civil suit dismissed. That speaks for itself.

They aren't bleeding her lawyers at all. The burden of proof is on DSK's lawyers to show the court that he is protected by diplomatic immunity.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 01:57 pm
@firefly,
He should had been above the NY law at least until an investigation was done that show there was some ground for waving his immunity to the UN or the board of the IMF.

The whole world economic future should not had been placed at added risk because of a third world lying con woman word.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 01:58 pm
@firefly,
Every time they need to go to court and do legal research on DSK lawyers claims it is costing them $$$$$$$$$$$
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 01:59 pm
@firefly,
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They aren't bleeding her lawyers at all. The burden of proof is on DSK's lawyers to show the court that he is protected by diplomatic immunity.
Bullshit, the case is a contest between Ophelia and DSK, every extra step in the battle rings up billable hours for her lawyers, it sucks time that they will never get back and as it looks now almost certainly will never be paid for.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 02:11 pm
@hawkeye10,
DSK's lawyers are the ones making the motion for dismissal, the burden of proof is on them.
The whole issue of DSK's political immunity was already decided in the criminal case. Diallo's lawyer's really don't have to do much additional research. It's DSK's lawyers who have to convince the court, since it's their motion.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 02:28 pm
@firefly,
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DSK's lawyers are the ones making the motion for dismissal, the burden of proof is on them
So what? Her lawyers will be drawing up papers to argue the counter point, which will cost them time and money. Furthermore they now have reason to suspect that if they lose DSK's side will try to appeal based upon the argument that he had immunity, and given that the law is so untested on this SCOTUS might actually need to take the case so that they can define the law, thus drawing out the case for another couple of years on appeal.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 02:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
YAWN....

Other than you and BillRM, does anyone here really care how long it drags on?

The longer it drags on, the longer it's around to haunt DSK and affect his future. He's the one with the vested interest in ending it ASAP.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 03:02 pm
@firefly,
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He's the one with the vested interest in ending it ASAP.
It is very clear that he sees his best interest in stretching it out. It is unclear if he is shooting for protecting his legacy or if this is about keeping his wife happy or if this is about pride....I suspect that we will need to wait for the book before we know for sure.

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The longer it drags on, the longer it's around to haunt DSK and affect his future
If he ever works again he would be doing us a favor, he does not need to so long as his wife stands by his side.

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Other than you and BillRM, does anyone here really care how long it drags on
What is cared about is how this turns out...we have already allowed this scam artist bitch to potentially massively negatively impact France, Europe and the global economy, some of us feel that it is important to send a message by making sure that she does not benefit financially from her ill deed, as a way to discourage the practice.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 03:10 pm
@firefly,
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If anything, it reflects the fact that DSK's lawyers are the ones worried about the civil suit. That's why they are trying to get it dismissed.


Of course they are! They are getting paid for worrying about it. At their rates I'll worry about anything you want ff. Their instructions are to get the case dismissed.

For DSK it's a running sore. He won't be worried about losing the it.

He won't be back in the US unless it is dismissed. Which I suppose you'll be happy about.

But there's a Euro big-hitter, plus wife, with a grudge.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 06:16 pm
@hawkeye10,
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some of us feel that it is important to send a message by making sure that she does not benefit financially from her ill deed, as a way to discourage the practice.

What ill deed? Reporting to the police that she was sexually assaulted? Is that what you want to discourage--the reporting of sexual assaults? That doesn't surprise me one bit.

The charges against DSK were not found to be baseless or untrue. He was not found to be innocent of Diallo's allegations. And, in his televised "explanation" to the French people, he offered no explanation of what occurred or what behavior he had actually engaged in with Diallo, and how it came about. Yet he admitted to a "moral failing"--so what was the "moral failing"? Going after a hotel maid, a woman beneath his social status? Going after a woman who had the guts to report him to the police? Rolling Eyes

Whether or not she receives financial compensation for her alleged assault will be up to a civil jury. Nothing you say here matters at all.



hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 06:28 pm
@firefly,
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Nothing you say here matters at all.
Every bit of the conversation matters where I want it to matter, that being going forwards in our society. The next time a woman gives a guy a blow job and regrets it after the fact I dont want to see her running to the state or anyone else to complain. DSK was almost certainly crude in his asking, but I dont want to see that be a crime anymore than I want it to be a crime when the boss asks the receptionist if she'd like to join him at the local motel after work. I am constitutionally apposed to making the asking for sex a crime, only the forcing of sex should be. There is no way in hell DSK forced this bitch to do anything, it is not in his nature and she is much too strong for him.

If a woman has reason to suspect that she will be looked upon negatively by those around her if she whines after the fact about sex that she agreed to then she will be less likely to do it.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 06:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
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There is no way in hell DSK forced this bitch to do anything, it is not in his nature

So, you've had sex with him too? Laughing

There is no evidence she agreed to anything. And if, as you say, "DSK was almost certainly crude in his asking," that may have included his not bothering to ask at all--he was accused of forcing it, just as he is now accused of forcing it in France.

Sorry, nothing you say here matters--not here at A2K, not in the real world. You just have an over-blown sense of your own self-importance
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2011 06:43 pm
@hawkeye10,
I should add that we have gotten two versions of what happened from the state, one is that he came in her mouth and spit it out on the carpet where it was recovered for DNA testing, the other is that the who charge was based upon the fact that he inadvertently touch her lips with his dick as he jacked off on her, that there was never an attempt to penetrate any orifice. For the sake of argument I am assuming that the more serious activity is the one that took place. If all he did was jack off on her as she complied and sat still then the state looks even more abusive than it already did.
 

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