Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

@firefly,

First hypocrite you stated it did not matter if he is innocent and falsely charge he should never had placed himself in such a position and therefore no matter what it is his fault.

I can not see you stating that it does not manner if a woman was rape or not rape as it was her fault for using bad judgment or doing something that you do not approve of such as cheating on her husband.

Second the charges were drop because the only witness that is claiming he did anything wrong is an out and out liar.

In this country he does not need to prove he is innocent as he is presume innocent and given the accuser behaviors in this case there is zero reason to think otherwise.

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@hawkeye10,

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She is not a hypocrite if her goal is to prioritize and advantage women over men, as I have long argued is the case.

That's another of your numerous distortions. You constantly need straw-men to argue against--and they always seem to be female, whether it's the "fictional firefly" you have created or your "feminist" conspiracy theories. You constantly see yourself as being in competition with women, and you always feel you are on the losing end. Your personal feelings of inadequacy as a male seem to color all of your opinions.
Most men, fortunately, seem to enjoy much happier relationships with women than you do, which is why your opinions never find much support at A2K .

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@firefly,

Hawkeye is very very stupid, it follows that he should think this way. You should hear what he's got to say about the London riots.

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@firefly,

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Most men, fortunately, seem to enjoy much happier relationships with women than you do, which is why your opinions never find much support at A2K .

Most men are hen pecked at home and dont realize how pervasive the inequality is across the society, and so they stay silent. When the scales were reversed most women stayed silent about their oppression as well, it was the few who refused to be silent, who raised their voices in objection. You have made this point a half dozen times that my view is the minority view, when are you going to wise up and realize that I know this, and that I also know that my argument is continuing to move towards being the majority view as I and those like me refuse to let our voices be silenced by our oppressors (the feminists and the state)?

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@hawkeye10,

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However, we the people decided to come after DSK with three felony charges for this jerk behavior

That's because that "jerk behavior" might well have been criminal.

He was not exonerated--the charges against him were not found to be baseless or untrue.

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which is why I am not very interested in talking about what little DSK did wrong.

That's because you don't regard sexual assault as serious or harmful--even if DSK did commit the acts he was charged with.
You're the one who argues against having rape/sexual assault laws--even the laws pertaining to forcible sexual assaults, which are the laws DSK was charged under.

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@firefly,

Well Firelfy you should be happy as I and Hawkeye are disagreeing on a thread that concern sex crimes in that there is zero question in my mind that you are a hypocrite of the worst kind.

I can just see your reaction if anyone had stated , anywhere on this website, that as the woman was naked in the hotel room and she is married therefore it is her fault for what happen rape victim or not.

Your double standard is sickening/stomach turning to say the least.

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@firefly,

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That's because you don't regard sexual assault as serious or harmful-

I have stated often that I dont think she was assaulted, I think DSK made a request and she complied. She may well have thought that she did not have a choice, but her ignorance is not DSK's fault, he is not criminally liable because she did not think that she could say no. This gets back the the feminist position that men are guilty of assault when ever women think they are, that it is the mental functioning of the woman which constitutes a sex crime , not the actions of the man. I reject this argument with vigor.

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@BillRM,

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First hypocrite you stated it did not matter if he is innocent and falsely charge...

Except, HE WAS NOT FALSELY CHARGED. THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM WERE NOT FOUND TO BE BASELESS OR UNTRUE.

Fortunately, the people of France are able to judge this man much more objectively than you can--and a majority of them do not want him running for political office. Character does count, and his is working against him.

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@hawkeye10,

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This gets back the the feminist position that men are guilty of assault when ever women think they are, that it is the mental functioning of the woman which causes criminality, not the actions of the man.

That's so absurd, and also irrelevant to the topic, I'm not going to respond to your notion that rape is an imaginary crime.

DSK was charged with forcible assaults--in the eyes of the state, forcible sexual assaults are criminal.

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@firefly,

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Fortunately, the people of France are able to judge this man much more objectively than you can--and a majority of them do not want him running for political office. Character does count, and his is working against him.

We dont know tht his character is the reason, maybe they are sick of the soap opera ( a major reason why we rejected Hillary), maybe they think he needs to get bleached before he runs so this opinion that he should not is temporary. You are as usually Firefly trying to float the bullshit, making claims that either can not be shown to be true or that you know are not true.

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@izzythepush,

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Hawkeye is very very stupid, it follows that he should think this way. You should hear what he's got to say about the London riots.

I know. And he is consistently stupid, often regardless of topic.

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@firefly,

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Except, HE WAS NOT FALSELY CHARGED

Your post clearly stated it did not matter if he was falsely charge or not falsely charge as it was his poor judgment and poor morals that placed him in a position to be charge falsely or otherwise and therefore either way it is his fault.

It is the same as stating once more that it does not matter if the woman had been raped or not raped as it was her poor judgment and poor morals that placed her in that position.

You can not wiggle out of your own words that prove you are a hypocrite beyond question or beyond the issue of him being falsely charge or not falsely charge for that matter.

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@firefly,

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DSK was charged with forcible assaults--in the eyes of the state, forcible sexual assaults are criminal.

DSK is not charged by the state to have committed a forcible act, he is only charged by Ophelia to have done so, and she is a known liar about sex crimes so any claim she makes is properly discounted.

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@firefly,

I think ff has been driven batty by this thread. She is an impossible woman to have any sort of reasonable discussion with. I hope she isn't typical of American women. She's no hypocrite--she actually believes the **** she is putting on here.

She can't get it into her head that DSK is guilty of nothing. And that Vance has humiliated American justice in the eyes of the world by reducing it to a prurient exercise in mass hysteria obviously caused by a tightly bottled up sexual frustration and, as such, a vehicle for much mirth.

The charges were dismissed out of the fear of them being laughed out of court. All those tough, hard-bitten DAs of the movies were obviously a big act. They are pussy cats when it comes down to reality.

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@spendius,

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They are pussy cats when it comes down to reality.

a great many are abusive puritans, however Vance is widely rumored to have bigger political aspirations than this job to look after, another humiliation in court after the several others that he has had in his short time in the chair would be a major problem.

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@spendius,

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I think ff has been driven batty by this thread.

She was by the rape thread as well, she ends up arguing her position alone, she continually gets beat on points, and then in the rape thread she kept going away saying she was done (she and I agreed to stop posting in the thread) but she could not stay away. I think that she is so used to being successful at bullying men around and winning arguments by misrepresenting the facts that it eats at her that there are some of us at A2K who are immune to her assaultive practices, so she keeps coming back to try it again.

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@hawkeye10,

After this humiliation I expect any aspirations to be tittering material.

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@spendius,

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After this humiliation I expect any aspirations to be tittering material.

The conventional wisdom is that he can lay low for awhile, work on getting better at his job, and that in time he can recover. Being an agent of state abuse of the citizens till now has not been a career ender, as Americans are easily manipulated by fear into being swindled and suffering abuse with out objection.

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@hawkeye10,

Chumps are chumps hawk. Bloody nepotism eh? It'll be the death of us.

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@spendius,

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Chumps are chumps hawk.

It has been mentioned by me before how often America's problems are rooted in bad education, and sometimes the fact that we suffer under the delusion that we are very well educated. We spend a lot of years sitting in classrooms, getting what is advertised as education, but most of the time is either wasted or is used for indoctrination.

The rape scare in particular, and the destruction of the justice system in general, could never have been successful without first poorly educating the citizens. Those who know who they are and what is going on around them are not susceptible to manipulation though fear.

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