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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 04:56 pm
@firefly,
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Her lawyer claims there was medical evidence of vaginal bruising and a torn ligament, among other injuries.


Let the monkeys do the organ grinding ff. You're useless at it. Were there no torn tights. He actually opined that she "may" need surgery. The slimeball.

The only reason I would ever tear tights is to do a temporary repair on a broken fan belt.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 06:16 pm
@BillRM,
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Too bad for them that they did not work faster for a settlement before the case disappear on them
Ya, and the book deal just went bye-bye, and perhaps even the movie deal though she might (slim chance) be able to still get a pittance for a lifetime or Oxygen tear jerker. This gravy train is drying up quickly, I would not expect the hired guns to stick around for long. Eventually even the state will drop her.

Big question: will her employer continue to pay her for no work? Her suit against them just got iffy, If I were the management company I would find a way to cut her off. Vance already said he would pay to put her up for the moment, but that should not last long. How much has the round the clock police protection of her house cost the good citizens of New York?? Maybe she should be presented with a bill.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 06:39 pm
Another Black Eye for Cyrus Vance
By MICHAEL POWELL

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Some day soon — today, perhaps? — an observant bookie might ask: Who faces longer election odds? Dominique Strauss-Kahn or the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr.?

The new district attorney’s string of losses and/or embarrassments in high-profile cases has become perversely impressive. In recent weeks, the Deutsche Bank contractors both walked free and the East Village police officers accused of rape were found not guilty of the most serious charges against them. And a grand jury refused to allow Mr. Vance to pursue his most serious charges against two men accused of conspiring to blow up a Manhattan synagogue.

Now the the former managing director of the International Monetary Fund, Mr. Strauss-Kahn, seems about to spin free of career-ending felony charges.

Mr. Vance’s office filed a letter on Friday with State Supreme Court that reads like the legal equivalent of a skin-scrape, peeling back near every aspect of their witness’s credibility. She lied about the torture and death of her husband at the hands of government troops in her native Guinea and she lied about her claims to having been gang-raped.

The sorry list grows longer. She lied about the details of the day of her sexual encounter with Mr. Strauss-Kahn. And law enforcement investigators told The New York Times that she has a bank account plump with the proceeds from a jailed drug dealer, who discussed with her the economic advantages of pursuing charges against Mr. Strauss-Kahn.

The mystery attendant to Friday’s proceeding is why Mr. Vance’s office declined to drop the case entirely.

None of this should suggest that Mr. Strauss-Kahn emerges with anything but the shards of his old reputation. The housekeeper’s accusation against him was like tugging on an old cupboard door — when it flew open, old allegations of his contemptible behavior toward women came spilling out.

A few, unfortunately hailing mostly from my sex, claim to see vindication in this messy disaster. So we have this French fellow quoted in our article on the reaction in France: “This is a slap in the face of the feminists,” said Marc Marciano, 53, a trader in Neuilly-sur-Seine, a Paris suburb.

Mr. Marciano might find so much comfort in silence. As for Mr. Strauss-Kahn and his future, when the debate is between those who accuse you of rape and those who defend you as a mere disgusting cad, your image problems have not emerged from critical care.

All of which brings us back to Mr. Vance and the spectacular botch that his office has made of this case. There is no argument, moral or legal, to be made for special treatment. But if a local prosecutor decides that justice demands bringing to ground the International Monetary Fund’s managing director and a potential French presidential front-runner, he might want to nail down each detail before slapping on the cuffs.

The former I.M.F. chief is a man who travels back and forth across the Atlantic as easily as most of us cross Broadway. Why not build a case and arrest him the next time he steps into Nobu? Those who argue against prosecutorial patience point to the case of Roman Polanski, who engaged in scurrilously bad, not to mention felonious, behavior in the United States, and then picked up his film career within the shadow of the Alps.

But Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s life ambitions argue against the notion that he could have barricaded himself inside his Paris duplex, lived on takeout foie gras for a few months, and resumed his candidacy for president. He faced two choices: Restore his honor by facing the charges, or retire into disgrace.

This of course is second-guessing (my value added!). What’s clear now is that the highest profile case of Mr. Vance’s still-young career appears to have collapsed in upon itself. His office’s letter to the judges ends with the acknowledgement that the witness lied about her history, background, present circumstances and personal relationship.

It concludes: “Please do not hesitate to contact us with any questions.”

Where do we begin?

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/mr-vances-spectacular-botch/?smid=tw-nytimes

DAMN RIGHT!
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 07:40 pm
@hawkeye10,
Strauss-Kahn case deals setback to Manhattan DA

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It’s a classic reversal of fortune.

The severe weakening of the sexual assault case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn has potentially restored the political hopes of the French presidential contender. But it has dealt a setback to the nascent career and political ambitions of Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr.

Vance has served for less than two years in one of the highest-profile positions in U.S. law enforcement. He is the son of Cyrus R. Vance Sr., a Democratic lion and secretary of state under Jimmy Carter, and is the hand-picked successor of Robert Morgenthau, the legendary nine-term Manhattan district attorney.

But Friday, his office’s acknowledgment that it now questions the credibility of the chambermaid who accused Strauss-Kahn of rape led to the Frenchman’s release from house arrest on his own recognizance.

The development caps a string of high-profile defeats for Vance.

“Major cases keep falling apart or acquittals occur where the public is hyped about the nature of the crime and the probability of conviction,” said Hank Sheinkopf, a Democratic consultant who has worked on several district attorney races but not on the 2009 election. “If Vance continues to lose cases where the electorate has an intense amount of information, he is going to have a problem. There are definitely people today thinking about whether Cy Vance should be challenged.”

At first, the Strauss-Kahn prosecution seemed an ideal opportunity for Vance to make a name for himself.

After filing the indictment, he spoke to reporters on the courthouse steps, characterizing the charges against Strauss-Kahn as “extremely serious” with evidence that “supports the commission of non-consensual forced sexual acts.”

This week, however, the most serious problems emerged with his own case. And for Vance, who took the district attorney’s office in a sharply contested election, this is not an isolated incident.

Detractors of Vance cite an exodus of experienced lawyers and growing tensions with Morgenthau as proof of his poor management skills. They point to a recent spate of courtroom losses as evidence of his tendency to overreach.

In May, a jury acquitted two police officers of rape charges made by Vance’s office in the officer’s handling of a drunken woman whom they helped into her apartment. The sensational nature of the case resulted in blanket tabloid coverage, as did the unexpected verdict. The officers were acquitted on all but official misconduct charges.

In June, Vance argued that two men accused of plotting to blow up the largest synagogue in Manhattan had a “desire to commit violent jihad against Jewish Americans” and called it “not only an act of terrorism, but a hate crime.” His office failed to persuade a grand jury that the men intended to kill worshiping Jews, a hate crime that would have carried mandatory life sentences. Instead, it settled for felony charges that carry a maximum of 25 years in prison.

On June 24, an Egyptian businessman pleaded down charges linked to his groping of a chambermaid in the Pierre hotel. He received a $250 fine and five days of community service.

Earlier this week, jurors acquitted two supervisors charged with negligently watching over construction of the former Deutsche Bank building in downtown Manhattan, leading to a 2007 fire that killed two firefighters. And two days before the Strauss-Kahn case faltered, the longtime chief of the Manhattan district attorney’s sex crimes unit, Lisa Friel, abruptly quit.

All those matters pale in comparison with the Strauss-Kahn case, in which Vance’s legal critics fault him with a rush to judgment. While New York law demands that prosecutors seek an indictment for such a crime in five or six days, Strauss-Kahn altered the legal calculus when he posted bail before the indictment.


Vance declined to comment for this report, but his spokeswoman, Erin Duggan, said there was no rush. “This is how the criminal justice system works,” she said. She also objected to the notion that her boss was on a losing streak, saying that “a lot of homicides and sexual assaults never get a blip in the media.”

“We are not a baseball team. We don’t measure the work of the office on wins and losses, but on doing the right thing in every case,” she said, citing recent arrests in child pornography and drug dealing cases.

Other defenders of Vance’s tactics came from unlikely quarters.

“It’s not fair to rush to judgments about him because he is taking over after a 30-plus- year reign,” said Leslie Crocker Snyder, a former New York judge who ran against Vance and had unsuccessfully sought to unseat Morgenthau several times.

Crocker Snyder said the instinct to “indict quickly” was “natural” given the high profile and serious nature of the alleged crime. But she said Vance was “fortunate” that Strauss-Kahn was “able to get out on bail, as high as it was. It could have been a much worse situation if he had been in jail like many people would have been.”

Vance grew up in New York and Washington and earned his law degree from Georgetown University in 1982. His father served in the high government positions under John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson before being named secretary of state under President Carter.

In seeking the district attorney’s job in 2009, Vance explained that he had not wanted to pursue his father’s path, and sought to make his own way. He spent 16 years as a defense attorney in Seattle, suffering some other high-profile defeats, including one to the case of teacher Mary Kay Letourneau. His defense of Joseph Meling, accused of sending cyanide-laced Sudafed capsules to kill his wife, ended in a conviction, as did the case of a businessman who strangled his Russian mail-order bride.

Vance returned to New York in 2004 as rumors spread that Morgenthau, then well into his 80s, was contemplating retirement. Five years later, when Morgenthau left office, he passed over likely heirs in the office to pick Vance, whom he thought would hold up his legacy. It hasn’t worked out that way; associates of the former district attorney have privately expressed he is increasingly displeased with the performance of his successor.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/strauss-kahn-case-deals-setback-to-manhattan-da/2011/07/01/AGwV3LuH_story_1.html

Vance has not been in the chair long, but it has been long enough to see clearly that this mother ****** needs to be shown the door....
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 10:32 am
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye I wonder if Firefly would like to tell us once more how wonderful the sex crime unit is in New York?

firefly
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 11:07 am
@BillRM,
The NYPD special victims unit has nothing to apologize for--their fine reputation is intact. They made a justifible arrest based on a complaint that appeared credible and was backed by forensic evidence.

But a fine reputation is more than either DSK or his accuser can claim at this point in time. He's been convicted in the court of public opinion based on his past misdeeds of inappropriate and predatory sexual actions toward females, and she's now being convicted in the court of public opinion based on her past misdeeds of lies and inconsistencies.

It's karma--what goes around, comes around--and it seems to have caught up with both of them.

It will be a shame if there is no trial. I want to know what went on in that hotel suite, and whether a sexual assault took place. A trial would be the only way to ferret out the truth.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 11:20 am
@firefly,
There will be no trial except perhaps for the maid for lying to the grand jury and I know you like to attack the victim good name as long as the victim is male you see not problem with doing so.

However he had never been convicted of any misdeed of any kind in his 62 years of life and the worst you can come up with is that a report of his directors found he used bad judgment in having a consensus affair a woman who reported to him at the IMF.

The New York police got taken in by a third world con-woman.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 11:34 am
@BillRM,
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However he had never been convicted of any misdeed

No, more accurately, he hasn't been convicted of any misdeed...yet.

And she hasn't been convicted of any misdeed...yet.

And whether or not a criminal sexual assault took place in that hotel suite is still unknown.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 11:54 am
@firefly,
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No, more accurately, he hasn't been convicted of any misdeed...yet.


I don't suppose you have either ff.

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They made a justifible arrest based on a complaint that appeared credible and was backed by forensic evidence.


What was the forensic evidence at the time of the arrest? And the complaint might only have appeared credible to those wishing it to.

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And whether or not a criminal sexual assault took place in that hotel suite is still unknown.


As is the case in many a million hotel rooms. The complaint is the pinhead on which your inverted pyramid is built. Aside from your general position that it is a very serious felony to get sexual privileges from a woman without paying the appropriate price.

Is this the most expensive blow job in history?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 12:16 pm
@spendius,
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What was the forensic evidence at the time of the arrest? And the complaint might only have appeared credible to those wishing it to.
I was reminded in something that I read yesterday that in the days after the event the DA leaked that she did not have a mark on her. I think what the state meant by forensics when they explained refusing to drop the case is that she had fluid on her and that their was fluid in the carpet. It may be that she had bruises, that the earlier reports were wrong, but I am not prepared to take Ophelia's lawyers word for it.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 12:21 pm
@firefly,
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A trial would be the only way to ferret out the truth.
there is no way to get to the truth...a trial could only be a guessing game, and since DSK holds the presumption of innocence there is no point to the exercise.


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High Seas
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 12:26 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
The New York police got taken in by a third world con-woman.

Not so - it was the Sex Crimes Unit at the Manhattan DA's office that was taken in. Its head, Lisa Friel, got fired by Vance and her replacement, assistant District Attorney Martha Bashford, named new head. NY police did a good job - they investigate, they don't prosecute. I've no idea what FF is talking about.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 12:26 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Hawkeye I wonder if Firefly would like to tell us once more how wonderful the sex crime unit is in New York?


did you notice that defense in the case that got the units boss fired are shooting for a mistrial based upon her illegal activity as uncovered in the documentary? She was boss for ten years, I wonder how many other acts of injustice towards defendants that the perpetrated??

Firefly cant seem to help herself from defending a crappy "justice" system, which makes her sound like a schmuck.
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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 12:30 pm
@spendius,
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Is this the most expensive blow job in history?

Well, since that's the way you choose to look at it, it certainly has been costly for DSK, hasn't it?
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Aside from your general position that it is a very serious felony to get sexual privileges from a woman without paying the appropriate price.

My position, supported by laws in all 50 states, is that it is a serious felony to commit a forcible sexual assault against an unwilling individual. That behavior is also considered criminal in the country you live in.

firefly
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 12:53 pm
@High Seas,
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Lisa Friel, got fired by Vance and her replacement, assistant District Attorney Martha Bashford, named new head

Lisa Friel's departure from the D.A.'s office was unrelated to matters regarding the accuser in the Strauss-Kahn case.

Lisa Friel was fired because she participated in an HBO documentary about the Manhattan sex crimes unit, and, in unaired footage from that program, she discussed current active cases without disclosing this information to the defense for those cases--as she was required to do by law. This has already resulted in at least one defense attorney saying he will be seeking a mistrial in the case of his client because of this breach.
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The firing of Lisa Friel, Manhattan Sex Crimes unit, was inevitable, NY state law requires that the footage should have been shared with defence attorneys even though it was not aired. Friel and her team failed to do this.

Other Manhattan Sex Crime unit prosecutors and investigators involved in the HBO documentary are either under investigation or have been reprimanded by DA Vance. Two prosecution witnesses, its Chief District Attorney investigator Ed Tacchi and District Attorney investigator Lauren Liebhauser, talked about the case on camera.
http://solariasun.com/5082/lisa-friel-manhattan-sex-crimes/

Friel committed a serious ethical and legal violation while she was basking in her five minutes of fame in that documentary, and that's why she lost her job.

Do you have iron-clad, irrefutable, inside information that no sexual assault took place in that Sofitel hotel suite, High Seas? How do you know that anyone was "taken-in" by the sexual assault complaint, since it might well have been an accurate reporting of what took place?
High Seas
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 01:02 pm
@firefly,
Perhaps you should read the papers before continuing to make a total fool of yourself by posting your individual fantasies? From the maid's defense team:
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"There is information . . . of her getting extraordinary tips, if you know what I mean. And it's not for bringing extra f--king towels," a source close to the defense investigation said yesterday.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/maid_cleaning_up_as_hooker_0mMd759PLuYGYYJyA0RNbI#ixzz1QyaEJQHG
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 01:17 pm
@High Seas,
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"There is information . . . of her getting extraordinary tips, if you know what I mean. And it's not for bringing extra f--king towels," a source close to the defense investigation said yesterday
that is a theory of what happened that as been out there since day one, and which looks more likely the more that we hear about this woman who is always ready for an opportunity to make money, and who covered multiple illegal activities with her " I am a shy retiring good muslim who keeps being abused by others" act.

Another gold mine I am sure is looking into how she got this $60K a year job with extensive opportunities for good tips. Hopefully DSK's people have gotten to the bottom of that.
firefly
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 01:29 pm
@High Seas,
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Perhaps you should read the papers before continuing to make a total fool of yourself by posting your individual fantasies?

No, I suggest you read the papers, and understand what they say, before you post information that makes you appear to be a fool.

That information did not come from the maid's defense team--it is from an unnamed source "close to to the defense investigation"--Strauss-Kahn's defense team, not the one representing the maid.
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Sources also told The Post Strauss-Kahn's probers uncovered evidence that...

These are typical defense team smear tactics, leaks like this, to try to impugn the maid's credibility on the issue of the sexual assault. Ben Brafman is known for planting "leaks" of this type. And only the N.Y. Post (the same paper that refers to DSK as "Le Perv") would print such unsubstantiated slime--for gullible sensation seekers, like you, who lap it up. Don't you wonder why the N.Y. Times didn't fall for this story?

Thus far, there is no evidence to indicate that the maid lied about the actual sexual assault. If there were such evidence, the charges against DSK would have already been dropped.

Try reading better sources of information than the N.Y. Post, High Seas.



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firefly
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 01:41 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Another gold mine I am sure is looking into how she got this $60K a year job with extensive opportunities for good tips.

How is that related to the matter of whether DSK criminally sexually assaulted her in his hotel suite?

Shall we also examine all of the skeletons in DSK's closet--and look into just how he got all of his past jobs?

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2011 01:59 pm
@firefly,
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How is that related to the matter of whether DSK criminally sexually assaulted her in his hotel suite?
because setting up a powerful man with a rich wife would represent her best personal advancement scheme to date. If using every hook and crook available to get ahead, legal and honest or not, is her MO then we need to know this when she goes around speaking ill of others.

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Shall we also examine all of the skeletons in DSK's closet--and look into just how he got all of his past jobs
If need be...justice requires taking the measure of the individuals who are making claims.
 

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