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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 01:59 pm
@firefly,
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You are acting as though they lack evidence of a forcible sexual assault
I am because they do lack such evidence, they can prove the she had fluids on her, which supports the story that they had oral sex, what else? All the science was ever going to do was to back up her story of what sex took place, and her credibility is now worthless so that is a lost cause. Absent a recording of the event they can not possibly have proof that an assault took place, and so with her not being credible Vance has nothing. He should drop the charges, not next week, NOW.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:05 pm
The Politician, the Maid, and Presumptions of Guilt

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It was, or so it seemed, a familiar story: the lecherous, power-drunk old man who’s used to getting away with taking advantage of women, until he doesn’t. But with the news that the sexual-assault case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn is crumbling in the face of the accuser’s own checkered past, the narrative has taken an abrupt about-face. Suddenly, the Sofitel maid has gone from helpless immigrant suffering life’s latest cruel blow to a different stock character: the dodgy gangster’s girlfriend who knows an opportunity when she sees one. Prosecutors, once certain the details were on their side, have discovered they are dealing with an unreliable narrator. But then again, so are we all.
We Americans pride ourselves on the presumption of innocence, when in fact everything about our culture works to spin the arrow the other way around. In the court of public opinion, what matters is not facts but story lines, and especially with a defendant like DSK, it is easy to see signs of guilt. The French were horrified by the way he was paraded before the press, droopy-eyed and stubbly as Khalik Sheihk Mohammed; our mayor, conceding the humiliation point, argued that “if you don’t want to do the perp walk, don’t do the crime,” as many a New Yorker nodded along. He left the hotel in a rush, maybe. He was on suicide watch, said a leak out of Rikers. When the history emerged of the terrible way DSK has treated women — as if he were a Duke lacrosse player all grown up and handed the keys to one of the world’s elite institutions — we built the case a little more in our heads. This was imperious entitlement at its very worst, a modern-day morality play. Also: He’s French.

It bears noting that along with the tabloid excesses, the media’s protocols for reporting about sex crimes also paradoxically plays a role in shaping how we perceive this kind of scandal. Out of respect for her privacy and because of the particularly fraught nature of the crime, in the American press, we don’t name the accuser. (The French lack a similar guideline, which is why photos of the housekeeper are now easily found on the Internet, for those who wish to draw further inferences from her appearance.) It’s a noble principle, certainly, but the shield afforded the woman has a way of making us automatically categorize her as a victim, not simply an accusing witness.

Now that we know this hardworking immigrant mother is at the very least a more complicated figure, the presumption of guilt plays out in the opposite direction. DSK has been released on his own recognizance. Even if an otherwise duplicitous witness is telling the truth about the alleged attack, the district attorney’s job may have just become impossible. But really, the central mystery endures. On May 14, a rich, well-connected white man had sex in a hotel suite with a younger, poorer, black woman who is not his wife. We can conjure all sorts of narratives to fill in the blanks, but that fact may be the only aspect of this affair that we’ll ever be sure of.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/07/dsk_the_sofitel_housekeeper_an.html
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:13 pm
For Bill

Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the Media Circus and the Roman Arena

Carlo Strenger
Chair, Clinical Graduate Program, Department of Psychology, Tel Aviv University

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This Friday former Chief of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Dominique Strauss-Kahn (generally called DSK in France -- and now in the international media) has been released from the house arrest under which he has been for more than a month. The prosecution has found significant credibility issues with the chambermaid who claimed that he raped her on May 14th this year, first chasing her naked through the luxury suite he was occupying, then forcing her to have oral sex with him.

She is reported to have been repeatedly lying about a number of issues, including a number of bank-accounts on which she has been receiving significant cash deposits, among others from a man convicted of possession of 400 pounds of marijuana.

We do not yet know what the final verdict of the DSK case in New York will be. He may yet turn out to be guilty, even though the prosecution's case seems to be teetering. But all of us should pause for a minute to realize that, beyond all rationalizations about the public's right to know and the importance of a free press, we have primarily been privy to today's variation of the Roman Circus.

Ancient Rome's wisdom was that the masses should be ruled by bread and circuses. Nowadays democracies no longer feed people to lions; but we still have our arenas. The new victims are those who are accused of criminal misconduct. The new arenas are newspapers, websites and TV stations; the lions have been replaced by cameras. And while cameras don't tear the flesh off the victims' bones, the damage to their lives is often exorbitant and irremediable.

The coverage of the DSK affair had a strong taste of a gladiatorial event. It started with DSK's so called "perp walk" -- the procedure in which defendants are walked through a public area that allows for the press to take pictures in New York. Of course DSK is not unique in having been put through this public humiliation: since Rudolph Giuliani liberalized the rules for this practice in New York, everybody can be subject to it.

The circus continued with lurid details of the accusations spread over every newspaper in the world, starting with the precise sexual act DSK supposedly forced the maid to perform to where exactly she had spit on the carpet.

It doesn't get much juicier: one of the world's most powerful men, head of the IMF is about to enter the race for the French Presidency; polls show that he would trounce the incumbent Sarkozy. He is taken off an Air France plane about to depart from New York's JFK. He is first held in custody for a few days. His (expensive and prominent) lawyers then negotiated exorbitant six million bail to have him under house arrest.

The luxury conditions of the arrest were described in great detail: the loft he rented costs S50,000 a month; the security arrangements $200.000 a month. All this was made possible by the wealth of his wife Anne Sinclair. Once the story unfolds, previous allegations for sexual harassment surface. DFK resigns from his post at the IMF; his political career, poised to go for its pinnacle, seems to be over.

The punditry had its field day. You could pretty much predict the angles that were taken by looking at the pundit's general orientation. Feminists lambasted the ways in which French alpha males always are allowed some extra grace in their sexual behavior. In France the favorite theory was that DSK had been set up by his political rivals; other conspiracy theories linked the setup to his activities at the IMF. Then there were the friends who said that DSK certainly had a taste for women, but was incapable of rape. Feminists retorted that, of course, the coterie of powerful men would stick together.

Let us face the truth: even though DSK's ordeal is terrible, he is privileged: if he is cleared of charges, or the prosecution decides to drop the case, this will be on the front pages of papers and websites around the world. And while the damage to his life and career cannot be mended, he will at least be publicly vindicated, and there is a good chance that, at least in France, his honor will be restored.

Not all victims of the press's hunger for scandal are as lucky. Within the context of my psychological practice I have seen what happens to those sufficiently well-known to be of interest to the press when charges are pressed, but not sufficiently famous to command interest in the long run.

I have seen from close how the lives of such people have been ruined. They had been accused of embezzlement, fraud or sexual misconduct on the front pages. A few weeks later, their cases were dismissed -- in some cases with the express statement by the court that charges should never have been pressed to begin with. But this was of no interest to the press anymore. If the papers were forced to do so, there was a brief note, buried somewhere in the back-pages, reporting that X had been cleared of all charges.

I saw how they suffered, when people on the street said, 'Oh this is X, the corrupt bastard!' obviously making their comment loud enough for X to hear them. Little did they know that charges had not even been pressed against him, because the papers who had carried the suspicions -- of course making sure that they could not be sued for libel -- had never bothered to clear X's name on a spot even comparable in visibility to the original accusations.

I saw people who had been accused of rape: charges were not only dropped, but the court reprimanded the police for its carelessness in disregarding evidence in favor of the defendant. But, even years later, they felt that their image had forever been tainted, and unfortunately their feelings reflected reality. Such is human psychology that memory stores salient negative information much better than the, far less interesting, fact that somebody turns out to be innocent.

I have seen how some of them never recovered from the trauma they underwent; and never recovered their abilities to lead rich and productive lives; how their children were damaged for life because of their parent's public humiliation; and how their marriages fell apart, because the strain was too great to bear.


Let us have the intellectual and moral decency not to say that this is the price of having a free press. We should be lucid enough to distinguish between the press's essential democratic function and its provision of entertainment. Let us see reporting about the scandals of famous and the not-so-famous for what it is: the modern day circus arena that feeds the insatiable human appetite for gossip, scandal and the Schadenfreude of seeing the mighty fall. Without this destructive joy, media wouldn't have clients for this kind of material.

Of course we cannot know in advance who will turn out to be guilty and who will go free. In deciding to release the names of those indicted, we should always ask whether there is genuine public interest in releasing their identities. In many, many cases there is no genuine public interest except for the desire for entertainment and the media's hunger for reporting it.

We must remember that some of those who unwillingly provide such entertainment, because they have been falsely accused of crimes, are harmed forever, for no other reason that humans love seeing fellow humans being torn to pieces. Maybe this will raise the question, once again, whether privacy laws should not be reconsidered: the human appetite for gossip is not good enough justification for inflicting grievous harm.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carlo-strenger/dominique-strausskahn-the_b_888796.html


OMG, someone has the balls to spout the heresy that maybe the French are correct and that the AMericans are wrong!!
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:15 pm
@firefly,
She said, she claimed, she alleged, she accused. That's all you have ff.

Oh--and the little thrills from writing all those suggestive phrases which we know produce little thrills on the evidence of the editors of those tabloid front pages you besmirched A2K with. Bodice ripping type thrills. You love it. Writers, movie makers and TV shows have traded on bodice ripping yarns for hundreds of years for one very good reason, the same reason as the editors, who must be in line for a whacking, and it is that you lot love it. Spitting jism on the walls of a posh hotel which has given you a $60k position is just a modern decoration. And it adds to the horrible nature of jism. Ms Greer said, claimed, alleged and accused us of having such a horror of jism that we have to use artificial birth control techniques and leave the lady to deal with the jism. And that's a far cry from what was described in
The Lives of Gallant and Fair Ladies by Pierre de Bourdeille Brantôme.

And those of us who have studied these things know very well that such a state of affairs as getting the shuddering horrors at the sight of jism is ideal for the producers of the type of product which newspapers and TV companies advertise in order to survive.

And the march of the "monstrous regiment of women" makes a quantum leap by replacing DSK with sweet Christine who won't know the first thing about economics in any realistic sense.

I've seen her interviewed. She was exactly like farmerman. Parlezing having learned off by heart some technical phrases and how to string them together with appropriate hand gestures, some crossing of admittedly divine legs and delicate facial expressionsm, so that the viewer, and Paxman himself, became mesmerised. He had asked her about the problem in Greece and I can't imagine anybody deciding whether she could solve it or make it worse without tossing a coin. Paxman imitated Stan Laurel at the end.

Economics is now about sex. Viagra has extended the range. I daresay a good number of geriatric frumps have been having makeovers since Viagra became available to those silly sods who take longer than the average man to grasp the obvious.

And downwards too. 8 year old girls are wearing padded bras and make-up techniques start at 4.

So Christine won't know any real economics because nobody would dare to explain to such a fine example of refined and estimable womanhood as she indubitally is why economics is about sex.

The Greek PM referred to "our sun-kissed beaches" when he listed his country's assets. We failed the Greeks you see. Our financial crisis caused their's. Had we kept growing at 4% the Greek beaches, bars, brothels &Co would be swinging to the jingling of cash tills yet. And Wall Street is in the frame for that. Which was based on sex as well.

So, to sum up, you got loads of little thrills and a few for others and you got your candidate in. The only problem now is you taking it all so seriously and failing to see that real people are the actors in this brief shadow shape.

Next time Tyler takes the tray of wine upstairs to the Ladies Gardening Society weekly meeting in the pub I'll tell him to emerge looking dishevelled claiming he's been traumatised and see if we can get the helicopter up. These helicopter guys sit in their rest room thumbing through Autocar and such like and they are straining for the emergency bell to ring.

We have had two high profile cases since all this happened in which the accuser has admitted the allegations were made up. (I'm using "high profile" in the provincial sense. By the side of DSK they were pipsqueaks. All they know is pork.)

I'm wondering if DSK is sat on a goldmine.

Was Mr Vance got in on the "who you know" principle? These aristos eh?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:30 pm
A tortured claim by a female former sports writer now managing editor of Slate that paints Ophelia as a victim of the "justice" system (when clearly it is DSK who is the victim here).

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It appears that the New York Times story that broke last night is correct, that the case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn is crumbling. Bloomberg is reporting that the former IMF head will be released on his own recognizance while facing charges that he raped a hotel maid on a visit to the United States in May. As the Times reported last night, “investigators have uncovered major holes in the credibility of the housekeeper.”

Mind you, the woman still says she was attacked, and nothing in the Times article indicates that she lied about what happened between Strauss-Kahn and her, except a vague statement that prosecutors don’t “believe much of what the accuser has told them about the circumstances.” And there is still the incontrovertible DNA evidence that something happened between them.

The problems appear to be that 1) the woman has “possible links to people involved in criminal activities, including drug dealing and money laundering”; 2) she spoke with an imprisoned acquaintance about “the possible benefits of pursuing the charges against him” and 3) there are some discrepancies between her asylum application and what she told investigators about that application.

As for those: 1) having links to “people involved in criminal activities” does not by itself make one a criminal; 2) is it really so wrong to wonder aloud how one might benefit from being raped by a rich and powerful man? Rape turns your life upside down, makes you feel battered and fearful to be alone. It might not be the smartest decision, no. But it’s not like they have her on tape two days BEFORE the incident talking to someone about how to blackmail an innocent man with a rape allegation. The third issue—the discrepancies between her asylum application and what she told police they would find in her application are confusing and perhaps mildly troubling, but they do not change what happened in that hotel room.

It would be nice to think that we lived in a country where even those who run afoul of the law were entitled to the same protections as the rest of us. Having a few unpaid parking tickets doesn’t mean that muggers have a right to your wallet, and a teenage past full of shoplifting busts doesn’t mean you should be subjected to a hit-and-run or get beat up walking down the street.

But the judicial process does not make it easy to pursue rape charges. Emily Bazelon and I researched false rape allegations for Slate in 2009, when a Hofstra student garnered headlines for recanting after claiming that she was gang-raped by five men in a bathroom. What we learned is that, whatever the percentage of false rape allegations is (a number that’s surprisingly hard to discern), they do a disproportionate amount of damage. One of our sources told us that, first off, police are highly suspicious of accusers, because they’ve either been burned by a false accuser or have heard similar stories from colleagues. That doesn’t appear to be the case with Strauss-Kahn’s alleged victim—the police reacted quickly and seriously. But even if a woman manages to file a police report and her accuser is charged and the case goes to trial, there’s another hurdle. Juries are similarly hard on rape accusers. Steve Cullen, an Army attorney who's worked extensively as a prosecutor, explained it to us:

Often in sexual assault prosecutions there's no debate as to the sex, but everything falls on proving lack of consent—and can only be proven through a convincing and persuasive victim's testimony. Often, that victim's testimony has to overcome some less than ideal circumstances—she was drinking, people observed her flirting with the perpetrator etc.

No, the victim in this case wasn’t drinking or flirting. But the questions about her integrity would have the same effect on a jury. If she could lie about her asylum application, for whatever reason, then she might be lying about her attack. As such, what prosecutor wants to stake his or her career or reputation on a case that the jury is probably going to laugh at? It’s an unfortunate reality. There’s an old saw that “it’s better to let 10 guilty men go free than convict a single innocent man.” Maybe, but it’s frustrating when a case can’t even be brought to trial.

And pity the next woman who tries to bring rape charges against a powerful man.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2011/07/01/dominique_strauss_kahn_rape_case_released_recognizance.html
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:30 pm
@BillRM,
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The fact that DSK partner in the affair charge misconduct that was not found to be true

You must have an inherent inability to be honest.

DSK, after an internal investigation, was found guilty of "poor judgment" in having an affair with a married subordinate at the IMF--an affair she has always maintained he pressured her into. Are you really so naive that you believe the IMF didn't have a vested interested in trying to cover-up a probable abuse of power on his part in this situation?

Did Gates pressure and harass his future wife into a relationship with him--a situation which she found to be unpleasant? Did an investigation find that he had acted with "poor judgment"?

Why do you persist in trying to equate two quite dissimilar situations?

As I said, the new female head of the IMF will likely make sure that complaints of sexual harassment are more seriously and thoroughly investigated.

BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:30 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Vance has nothing. He should drop the charges, not next week, NOW
.

Agree and bring whatever charges is possible under New York law against the maid for lying during a police investigation.

BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:40 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
DSK, after an internal investigation, was found guilty of "poor judgment" in having


Big damn deal as there are hundreds of thousands of men and women both who had have similar bad judgment including Presidents of the US and other then members of the military it is not a crime or civil tort of any kind oh except for some dead letter laws still on the books of some states.

He had bad judgment oh my...........

And it have nothing to do with who is married and who is not it is a chain of command problem and once more Bill Gates is in the same boat in that regards as is DSK.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:43 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
Vance has nothing. He should drop the charges, not next week, NOW
.

Agree and bring whatever charges is possible under New York law against the maid for lying during a police investigation.


Right now all Vance claiming is that she "materially misled" the GJ, but someone in the office leaked that they will consider charging her, which was clearly a shot across the bow. That explains why her lawyers have come out so strong against Vance. What I would expect now is a break down in her cooperation as she worries about being charged, and at that point Vance will finally do the right thing and drop the DSK charge while blaming her for it....saying that he now has no choice since he all he has is a non credible non cooperative witness.

BTW Bill, I guess we know now why Ophelia felt the need to have so many lawyers to protect her don't we.... So far as I can see her old lawyers are not talking about why they no longer represent her, we dont know if she dropped them or if they dropped her. Considering that her payday just got extremely iffy I would not expect her current lawyer to stick around long.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:53 pm
@hawkeye10,
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BTW Bill, I guess we know now why Ophelia felt the need to have so many lawyers to protect her don't we....


She is damn lucky this was not a Federal case as Martha Stewart found out the hard way lying to the Feds is a serous crime.
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 02:54 pm
@hawkeye10,
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I am because they do lack such evidence, they can prove the she had fluids on her, which supports the story that they had oral sex, what else?...Absent a recording of the event they can not possibly have proof that an assault took place,

Her lawyer claims there was medical evidence of vaginal bruising and a torn ligament, among other injuries.

DSK may also have had evidence of injuries on his body if she fought back.

You are in no position to say they lack evidence of forcible sexual assault. They may have substantial evidence in support of that, but they still might be unable to move toward trial because of the maid's credibility problems in other areas. This case never rested entirely on the woman's account--they had some corroborating forensic evidence even before they made an arrest.

The D.A's problem isn't a lack of forensic evidence, it's issues regarding the complaining witness's credibility--credibility issues which are not even directly related to her allegations of sexual assault by DSK, but which would still significantly damage the prosecutor's case against him at trial.

Even if Vance drops the charges, the maid's lawyer may still pursue DSK--that lawyer is angry enough at Vance to want to try to show him up by getting a conviction in a civil trial, or by having his client tell her story to the entire international media, and make Vance look like a wimp for backing off a trial . DSK may avoid a criminal trial, but this story isn't going to go away quietly. Kenneth Thompson, the maid's lawyer, is an aggressive type who is used to handling a great deal of media exposure. He may remain the wild card in this saga.

Again, there is no evidence that the maid lied regarding her allegations of sexual assault by DSK--and her lawyer knows that as well, and he can use it--against both Vance and DSK.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 03:05 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Her lawyer claims there was medical evidence of vaginal bruising and a torn ligament, among other injuries
Which is interesting considering that there is no claim that their was any vaginal insertion...A torn ligament only shows perhaps that she actually slipped on a bag as she claims, which does not say anything about DSK. And she had a few bruises...so do I, so what?
High Seas
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 03:06 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
.....Even if Vance drops the charges, the maid's lawyer may still pursue DSK--that lawyer is angry enough at Vance to want to try to show him up by getting a conviction in a civil trial....

How do you come up with your ridiculous legal hypotheses? Try facts for a change: Vance fired the prosecutor heading the sex crimes unit at the Manhattan DA's office - the one who prepared the case for this African con artist, who's obviously been lying from start to finish. Perjury charges against her may be pending, as are deportation proceedings. Strauss-Kahn may sue for damages as well.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 03:11 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Again, there is no evidence that the maid lied regarding her allegations of sexual assault by DSK
This needs more fleshing out...there are multiple accounts that say that she changed her story of what happened between her and DSK, so she either lied before or she is lying now, but we dont know yet exactly the nature of the story change. We know some of the lies she told about what happened directly after the even though, which certainly severely damages her credibility re the interaction with DSK. Further more, now that we know that she is a professional victim and con artist we know that Vance cant put her on the stand...he need to do the right thing, admit that he has no case and drop the charges.
firefly
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 03:15 pm
@hawkeye10,
Even DSK's lawyers wouldn't dismiss evidence of forcible assault as you foolishly try to do. Nor would they suggest that an alleged consenting, spur-of-the-moment sexual encounter also involved "rough sex"--since no jury would buy that one either.
Quote:
Attorney: DA has evidence Strauss-Kahn bruised maid’s vagina
Posted on 07.1.11
By David Edwards

The attorney for the maid allegedly raped by Dominique Strauss-Kahn surprised experts with a half-hour press conference Friday after The New York Times reported that his client had lied to prosecutors.

Kenneth Thompson said that the New York County District Attorney had an “obligation” to prosecute Strauss-Kahn because the physical evidence of a violent attack was irrefutable.

“Dominique Strauss-Kahn came out running out of one of those rooms naked, towards her and he grabbed her breasts first and started to attack her,” Thompson explained. “He then grabbed her vagina with so much force that he hurt her. He grabbed her vagina with so much force that he bruised her vagina.”

“The next thing that shows that their claim of consentual sex is a lie is the fact that when Dominique Strauss-Kahn threw the victim to the floor, he tore a ligament in her shoulder. That is a medical fact,” he continued. “The other third point to show you she was violently attacked in that room is that Dominique Strauss-Kahn ripped her stockings. There are holes, rips in her stockings and the D.A. knows that.” http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/07/attorney-da-has-evidence-strauss-kahn-bruised-maids-vagina/


You can also watch a video with Thompson at the above Web site.

He is clearly going after Vance.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 03:18 pm
@High Seas,
ff has been ridiculous from the start HS.

Quote:
Perjury charges against her may be pending,


"May". She's bang to rights surely? So let's see her perp walk. Perjury is a "serious felony" if I might borrow one of ff's favourite expressions.

It's that first 24 hours that's the killer and that woman judge. And the tabloid front pages. How much money are those newspapers worth?

It was "dip your bread in" time and in the rush the mob didn't notice that the goulash was boiling hot until they all fell into it.

But the ladies can be forgiven to a certain extent. The men are another matter.
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firefly
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 03:25 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
This needs more fleshing out...there are multiple accounts that say that she changed her story of what happened between her and DSK,

There have been no reports that she ever changed her story regarding the alleged sexual assault by DSK--what she reported took place inside that hotel suite.

The most credible source of such information is the letter the D.A. sent to the defense disclosing the credibility problems. There was no issue of credibility regarding the sexual assault--and, if there had been, the D.A. had a legal obligation to disclose it in that letter.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 03:27 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Even DSK's lawyers wouldn't dismiss evidence of forcible assault as you foolishly try to do. Nor would they suggest that an alleged consenting, spur-of-the-moment sexual encounter also involved "rough sex"--since no jury would buy that one either.
They absolutely will buy it, because it is likely true, and we can't believe anything she says. If Vance takes this case to court he is a damn fool. He just got caught taking a nothing case against a few construction workers for manslaughter in the Deutsche Bank fire, and he walked away sniffing (paraphrasing) "well, we sent a message to contractors" when all along it was the state inspectors who were most at fault not the guys on the job, If Vance continues to take empty cases to court to "send a message" the voters damn well better ream his ass next election...it is not OK for the state to treat citizens this way, ruin their lives to send a message to others.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 03:37 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance made it clear that they were proceeding with prosecuting Strauss-Kahn, but admitted that today's decision was an indicator of a weakening of the case. "The bail amount was based in part on the strength of the case," Vance said. "But today's proceedings didn't dismiss the case or change any charges. We will proceed with the case and continue to keep the victim safe.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2081204,00.html#ixzz1QtMa3ovN

That would be the alleged victim, asshole. Vance shows his bias, and why he is not fit for the office he currently holds.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2011 04:54 pm
@hawkeye10,
Can you just picture how unhappy her lawyers are now?

Too bad for them that they did not work faster for a settlement before the case disappear on them.

Copperfield accuser lawyer must had have the same sinking feelings when his "victim" was arrested for trying to shake down another man.
 

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