Osama Bin Laden is dead

@plainoldme,

It's a bit early here 4.30 pm. Doesn't stop me thinking about it though.

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@izzythepush,

I have two jobs. One is in a liquor store. Rolling Rock is a cheaper brand of beer. My ex-husband sometimes drank it. There are three Vietnam veterans that come in every day and buy an 18 pack. We call them them the Rolling Rock gang. Sweet guys whose lives were totally ruined by war.

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@plainoldme,

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Sweet guys whose lives were totally ruined by war.

Sweet guys whose lives were totally ruined by having been involved by uncaring monsters in war crimes.

Consider just how many of those monsters still walk the American landscape - Kissinger springs to mind.

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@izzythepush,

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From the popularity of Rolling Rock I assume you were this side of the pond in the late 90s early 00s.

Early 90s.

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@Ticomaya,

Must have been popular for a lot longer than I thought. This is not the first time I've used the phrase 'I feel like a bit of a dickhead,' when replying to your posts.

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@JTT,

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Sweet guys whose lives were totally ruined by war.

Sweet guys whose lives were totally ruined by having been involved by uncaring monsters in war crimes.

Consider just how many of those monsters still walk the American landscape - Kissinger springs to mind.

Just wondering, are you concerned about "war crimes" by all nations, or just a few, or just one? Must we all subscribe to your perceptions of who's who in the war crimes arena? Can we have our own war crime list?

I don't think everyone has the same definition of "war crime." To a Nazi the Holocaust was not a war crime, but just cleaning up Europe. To the Allies it was a war crime. See?

And, if the definition of war crime includes any action that kills civilians then many bacteria and viruses can be considered war criminals?

In my opinion, over the course of many threads, what you designate as a war crime is only considered a war crime, since the opposition does not have our technology. Perhaps, a better term for your concerns would be "therapy for ADHD nations." That is really what I believe the U.S. does. We get the attention of ADHD nations that cannot understand, due to their ADHD, that the U.S. can react with force if needed.

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@Foofie,

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Just wondering, are you concerned about "war crimes" by all nations, or just a few, or just one? Must we all subscribe to your perceptions of who's who in the war crimes arena? Can we have our own war crime list?

List away, Foofie, you'll only foofiefy yourself.

There is, no, there are two major reasons why I focus on the US - Iraq and Afghanistan. There simply is no other nation at present that comes anywhere close to the US when it comes to committing war crimes, fomenting trouble around the world, stealing the wealth of other nations, selling arms around the world, greedily gobbling the earth's resources, all this and more, while making a huge pretense that it is some good, kind, generous nation.

Certainly Iraq and Afghanistan are large enough events in and of themselves to maintain a focus on. The reason for the extensive history I provide is to show that what the USA is, it has always been. From the beginning, the US has been nothing but a greedy pillager.

Now that's not to say that it hasn't all been done without a degree of smarts. It has learned some lessons of history well. It's the new UK, but the US saw early on that establishing brutal dictators was much more efficient than the British system of trying to govern its conquests.

That has given the US unlimited rights to rape and pillage with the added benefit of plausible deniability. Add to that the enormous propaganda system that is the sum total of the US media, the US film industry, the US education system and you have a system that the Nazis would have loved.

How else can you possibly explain the ignorance of the vast majority of Americans to the facts?

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@JTT,

What a hypocrite ! They are all mass murderers to you... arent I a war criminal ? And how did you know this ? Because I served in the army....do you like the s word ? Served ? It frightens the **** out of you when people talk about honour and respect...thats why you dont like uniforms isnt it ? Thats why every man woman and child (and baby) in the USA is a war criminal .

You are a psychotic little bitch who should be medicated .

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@JTT,

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There is, no, there are two major reasons why I focus on the US - Iraq and Afghanistan.

No, bitch, there is one reason why you focus on the USA...they protect you and guarantee the right of lefty whingers like you to criticise without coming to harm . Go, JoinTalibanTerrorism, do like you name says and fight the great Satan with the terrorists...or are you worried the terrorists might not put up with your monotonous whining and will put a bullet in your brain pan....has anyone you criticised here done that yet ? No ? Hard to tell .

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How else can you possibly explain the ignorance of the vast majority of Americans to the facts?

How else can you possibly explain your delusion that you are clever and no one else is ?

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@Ionus,

There simply is no other nation at present that comes anywhere close to the US when it comes to committing war crimes, fomenting trouble around the world, stealing the wealth of other nations, selling arms around the world, greedily gobbling the earth's resources, all this and more, while making a huge pretense that it is some good, kind, generous nation.

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arent I a war criminal ?

I can't be sure; are you? Given how much you hate women and people of Arab descent, it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

And that anger. If it leads you to so easily tell all manner of lie, who knows what it might lead to in a really tough situation like when they put you on latrine duty.

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@JTT,

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There simply is no other nation at present that comes anywhere close to the US when it comes to committing war crimes

You were there or are you guessing ?

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selling arms around the world

Ever here of the AK 47 ??

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arent I a war criminal ?
I can't be sure; are you?

But you said I was...is your memory failing ?

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Given how much you hate women and people of Arab descent

But I dont hate women...just whining sniveling bitches like you and you are NOT even remotely typical . As for Arabs, if you are going to kill someone it is probably better if you do hate them...it is hard to kill someone you love, generally speaking . But I dont hate them either...I hate their male dominated belligerent society and their pissant egos....unlike you, HAMAS is not my employer .

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And that anger.

For your eyes only darling....

You have the standard mentality of a war criminal and a torturer...you are obsessed and believe you are right regardless . You have already decided you could kill...you only need the opportunity .

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@Ionus,

Torturer wot wot wot?

The moral high ground is well out of reach.

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@Ionus,

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There simply is no other nation at present that comes anywhere close to the US when it comes to committing war crimes

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Ionus: You were there or are you guessing ?

The facts, lad, the facts.

Is being an apologist for war crimes and war criminals part of your family's long history of honor and duty?

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Ronald Reagan: No Hero

Ronald Reagan Guilty of Treason & War Crimes

As the mass media engaged in an orgy of adulation for Ronald Reagan in June of 2004, many thinking persons were remembering and mourning the deaths of the hundreds of thousands of victims of Ronald Reagan's policies and pondering the lasting damage that the man did not only to the United States but to the world.

During Reagan's reign the United States experienced the beginning of the end of what could have been a great nation. Under Reagan, elements within the government engaged in massive criminal activity that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and the entrenchment of a vicious and evil criminal organization that is now firmly in power of not only the United States but much of the world.

Reagan's crimes are many and started well before he was President when he and Bush paid the Iranian's to not release the hostages in order to prevent the re-election of Jimmy Carter in 1980, not mention his reign of stupidity as Governor of California. The hostages were released as promised as Reagan was sworn into office. Reagan then secretly sold chemical & biological weapons to Iraq and told CIA buddy Saddam Hussein to step up bombing of Iran while still selling weapons to Iran in a war that claimed an estimated one million victims. The criminal activities in the Mid East stretched around the world to Central America in the spectacle that came to be known as Iran-Contra.

In Afghanistan, Reagan was busy funding Osama bin Laden and a terrorist army to displace the Russians. Once the mighty 'Muhjadeen' had completed their task they were partially abandoned and became the Taliban and Al Qaeda. With no real replacement intended for the Russian backed government, the radical Muslims quickly took power. Only later did the army without a war become the enemy so desperately needed by the US defense industry.

In Central America, Reagan-Bush ran a massive criminal operation that imported hundreds of tons of cocaine into the US and shipped arms illegally to the terrorist Contras that Reagan affectionately called "Freedom Fighters". Coca paste was brought in from South America by plane to an airstrip near Puntarenas, Costa Rica owned by Reagan/Bush supporter Julio Calleja and processed on the ranch of CIA operative John Hull. From there the high-grade coke was shipped by plane to the Mina, Arkansas Airport under the protection of Bill Clinton and to various Air Force bases..

Under direct US control, Reagan's 'Freedom Fighters' raped, tortured and murdered tens of thousands of innocent civilians in Nicaragua in an effort to bring down Nicaragua's first democratically elected government. The US had previously ruled Nicaragua through the brutal Somoza family dictatorship, once the dictatorship was overthrown by a popular revolution the US was quick to start an illegal campaign of terror against the government and civilians. The campaign of terror claimed 50,000 lives and crippled the entire nation.

Nicaragua took its case to the World Court. The court found that the U.S. actions constituted "an unlawful use of force .... [that] cannot be justified either by collective self-defence ... nor by any right of the United States to take counter-measures involving the use of force." The court ordered the United States to pay reparations, estimated at between $12 billion and $17 billion, to Nicaragua. Two weeks after the verdict was issued, the U.S. Congress voted to give the Contras $100 million to continue their war of terror against the people of Nicaragua. The US has never recognized the World Court's ruling or paid any of the compensation owed to Nicaragua.

"The ripple effects of that criminal murderous intervention in my country will go on for 50 years or more." Fr. D'Escoto, Priest and former Nicaraguan Foreign Minister

Reagan's blood-fest wasn't limited to Nicaragua, his puppet military dictators abducted, tortured, murdered and mutilated close to 200,000 civilians in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras in the name of 'democracy' and fighting communism. Nor was the slaughter done only through the US controlled dictators. In operations that are still highly classified, US AC-130 gunships, crewed by US personnel, flew at night over mountainous areas with potential rebels and killed anything that gave off body-heat. The AC-130 is a highly sophisticated computerized killing machine that "incorporate side-firing weapons integrated with sophisticated sensor, navigation and fire control systems to provide surgical firepower or area saturation during extended loiter periods, at night and in adverse weather. The sensor suite consists of a television sensor, infrared sensor and radar." - US Air Force

In 1999 the United Nations determined that the wholesale slaughter of Guatemalans, constituted "genocide." It was a genocide ordered and managed by The White House under Reagan.

READ ON AT,

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/reagan.htm

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@Ionus,

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You were there or are you guessing ?

There's no guessing to be done. Just one example. Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. The US saw to the slaughter of millions of innocents. The US directly targeted civilians in a series of the worst war crimes ever. This after, committing the ultimate war crime of invading a sovereign nation.

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@JTT,

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In Afghanistan, Reagan was busy funding Osama bin Laden and a terrorist army to displace the Russians. Once the mighty 'Muhjadeen' had completed their task they were partially abandoned and became the Taliban and Al Qaeda. With no real replacement intended for the Russian backed government, the radical Muslims quickly took power.

I've a bit of a problem with the above quotation, it's a bit too hands on. The CIA channelled most of it's anti- Russian funding through the Pakistan Secret Service, the ISI. They were the ones who made most of the contacts with Islamists. When the Russians left Afghanistan, the Americans pretty much left the ISI to their own devices, and the ISI continued nurturing Islamic extremism as a counter-weight to Indian influence, especially in Kashmir. That's probably why they were kept in the dark about the Bin Laden raid.

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@izzythepush,

Well, India did not follow the agreement to separate. They were anti-democratic where they gave more weight to a Hindu Raja, who was the king of Kashmir, than to the Muslim inhabitants. They would help him if he decided to join India. This Hindu Raja didn't want to join Pakistan as agreed. When the Hindu Raja joined India they sent in Indian troops while in India the Rajas were stripped of their inheritance. Many poverty stricken areas are Muslim areas as shown by the French documentaries in 1967-8. The Slumdog Millionaire boy is Muslim and lives in the slum in Bombay or Mumbai.

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@talk72000,

Well, to quote Sir Henry Rawlingson of Rawlingson End, aka Viv Stanshall,

'These buggers don't understand democracy. You've got to beat it into them.'

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@izzythepush,

That's just not the style of the Americans, Izzy. They love control. Certainly, they are more than willing to pass off to others the dirty work, but the US kept its dirty hands in Afghanistan. There was big money to be had and big money has always been the US's number one interest.

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Nicaragua is not the biggest covert action, it is the most famous one. Afghanistan is, we spent several hundred million dollars in Afghanistan. We've spent somewhat less than that, but close, in Nicaragua....

John Stockwell - Former top CIA agent

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@JTT,

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Is being an apologist for war crimes and war criminals part of your family's long history of honor and duty?

But you apologise every post for Putin in Chechnya, Pol Pot in Khmer, Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam, etc etc....you need to hate something, anything, and tall poppy syndrome led you to hate the USA...that and the whore Fonda and the idiot Alda....were you there abandoned love child ? They both come from the USA you know....

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@McTag,

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The moral high ground is well out of reach.

No, I can see it under me right now....there it is ...the moral high ground....

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