The Communist Origin of the Modern Conservative Movement VI

I'll move this conversation to the 47 president thread if you don't mind.

It looks like you need to get a hobby. As far as misspelled words I am dyslexic so you can imagine how much it bothers me when someone finds a misspelled word. I am when someone. I had a call from a number of neighbors about a young woman they said was partying way too much. She came to the door and said, I like men, and I like beer and there is going to plenty of both. That is the way I feel about misspelled words there are going to plenty of them.

Trump is on the warpath, and he is after his Attorney General. It is not what she has done it is what she hasn't done. She has failed to prosecute any of Trump's political enemies. It seems the cases that have been bought to grand jury failed to get any indictments. All they need do is point out this case was bought by a senile old man who hasn't a clue. No doubt Trump's hounds are investigating anyone that was rumored to have spat on the sidewalk. The Trump administration has a list of democrats who they are checking their mortgage applications for errors. Pam Bondi is a short timer if she can't put Trump's enemies in jail. Trump even had the Federal Housing Agency looking into housing records for somebody to prosecute.

You need an education.

This is not about winning or losing arguments.

It's about you making factually incorrect statements and not having the balls to admit to being wrong.

When you're proven wrong you go off on a tangent about something else.

I have plenty of education 155 hours from one university and many hours from another. Where most people stop after their first four years at University; I continued to take classes over the next 20 years when I needed to learn a new field. Before I took over the local union I went back and to school and studied Business law. I won many arbitration cases because I knew my contract backwards and forward and the opposing lawyers seldom did. Then I took labor law classes from a former state attorney general.

Everything in life is competitive. On political board the ideas are in competition. If this board was about roses, you might be correct.

I reported the reporter's remark just as she made it. I don't have the time to check every source it is not possible for me or you. I was not wrong I reported exactly as she said it.

I had never come across Charlie Kirk until today. I was reading a book I had bought a couple of months ago. The book name is "The Haves and Have-Yachts" the author is Evan Osnos. He discusses Kirk and his organization "Turning Point."

It seems Kirk has set up chapters in high school and colleges. The chapters are doing Kirk's work. One chapter in Nevada, the leader was shown saying "white power" with his arm around a white woman who said "F those nig**s." Charlie was a homophobe, if followers are any indication a white supremist, and he belonged to a religious cult that burnt 6 million people at the stake.

You have been proven wrong lots of times, yet cannot acknowledge it, instead going off on tangents.

So much for American education.

When American exchange students came to my college 3rd year students were put in with the Freshers, and they still couldn't keep up.

You said Britain was controlled by the radical right, despite us having sane gun laws, free health care, a better benefits system and fairer broadcast news.

Even Hightor who sprang to your defence had to admit you got that wrong.

You claimed Americans invented free speech and that George III was an absolute monarch.

Instead of acknowledging that, you give inane anecdotes about how you beat gun nuts and lawyers in arguments.

It's all a load of bollocks.

To start with Britian put on big show on for Trump and located the protesters miles from the show. No government that was not right wing would have done this. A country that had decent government would not be allowed in the country. The man can lie faster than the speed of sound.

Your issue is with the reporter, I reported what she said.

Free speech has existed throughout time if you wanted to pay the price. In a land ruled by a King I highly doubt that you could speak against the crown.

This argument has deteriorated to point of whose dick is biggest. Those arguments are useless. I was warned about you when you first posted on this thread. I have delt with many people with difficult personalities. One of the personalities that is similar to yours was a candidate for mayor and a councilman. He would take city ordinance and pick a few lines and claim they governed the ordinance even though the next sentence limited or changed the meaning. This went on for forty years. He always made petty arguments. One day the police got a call from someone that was being held at gun point. It seems Tom and his brother (a magistrate) were holding this man a gun point. They both had guns. They said they caught him looking into their garage. Tom proceeded to shoot him while he was on the phone with 911. He was severely injured and died of those injuries in a couple years. He reminds me so much of you. You will grab onto a tree and deny that the forest exists.

I happened to catch President Heel Spurs address to the UN. The teleprompter stopped working and old Heel Spurs had to wing it. He sounded like any other 80-year-old jumping from topic to topic. He was most offended that he did not get the bid to remodel the UN in 2,000. Nobody can bitch like old Heel Spurs he can beat the best of women at it. As Heel Spurs was warping it up the teleprompter started working and he started over. The audience looked like they were being held at gun point.

Don't be ridiculous, you made significant errors and aren't man enough to admit it.

After Trump's state visit there was a "major shift" in his attitude towards Putin/Ukraine.

A pragmatic government would.

BTW I have no interest in your long winded irrelevant anecdotes.

Stick to the point.

I live in a country where we don't need guns to settle arguments, so save your gun nut stories for other gun nuts.

Yeah, I wonder what brought that about? I thought it might have been a temporary lapse, a brain fart or something, but he kept it up yesterday at the UN. His shameful address to the General Assembly was one of the worst performances I've ever seen.


You could probably spend your time more constructively on other threads where the character of the discussion is more agreeable to you. (Just a suggestion as I don't think the OP will be altering his compositional style to meet your criteria any time soon.)

This thread is my sand box, and I will make the rules.

Jokes do good as one liners. But complex political philosophy often takes more than a few lines.

Britian's government tends to mimic the United States. Pointing out that some of the social benefits in Brition have survived is because the conservatives have not repeal them yet. We still have social security even though the conservatives have tried in every way to destroy it. Trump enacted changes that will bankrupt it sooner this year. Baby Bush told the American public that the $2 trillion social security trust fund was just worthless paper. It was held in US treasury bonds.

President Heel Spurs is livid because the Jimmy Kimbel show is back on the air. Trump tried and failed to destroy the show. He had already taken a victory lap on social media reporting that Kimbel show was canceled. A victory for free speech.

President Bone Spurs has been spoiled by Fox News it praises President Bone Spurs all the time. He thinks Fox News is a real news organization. Fox News was founded by two Republican political operatives and was founded as a 24-7 commercial for the republican party. Trump thinks that is what other news operations should be and is upset they are not.

You can do what you want, but there's nothing complex or philosophical about your posts.

Only a couple of pages back you were complaining I wrote too much.

I back up what I'm saying with evidence, you just have assumptions and ignorance.

You don't have free health care.

We've had it since 1948.

And we've had a lot of Conservative governments since then.

And now you're paying even more for what we consider a fundamental right.

You remind me of most of the kids in bottom level groups I had to teach.

Like you, they thought they were winning arguments because they didn't understand what was happening.

Stick to West Vagina.

When he talks out of his arse and makes stuff up I'll call him out.

He's got more alternative facts than Donald Trump.

Which is precisely one of the reasons I enjoy his threads.


The full force of pro-business anti-socialist prejudice has successfully fended off anything like your NHS in the USA. However, the country has been able to keep its Social Security program through many Republican governments because it remains overwhelmingly popular. But neither party has had the political will to shore up the system and protect it, appropriating its surpluses to fund other programs and endangering its future.

One of the problems with democratic socialism is securing sufficient revenue to keep benefits at a meaningful level and having to count on an informed and responsible electorate to willingly fund welfare programs. And this usually involves raising taxes, which is political suicide in the USA. The most disgusting aspect of this is that there is more than enough wealth in this country to fund national health care – and many other potential services – but the owner class has created a legal system and an anti-tax culture to make access to their surplus wealth impossible.

Yes, you still have the NHS (you used to be part of the EU, too), but a brief online search – "problems facing the nhs today" – shows that the system has some big challenges going into the future. I don't know if the owner class in the UK controls as much wealth as it does in the USA but I do know that the prospect of higher taxes dedicated to social welfare is a hard sell here – and right-wing populists are geared up to turn it into a political issue. Look at France. Starmer's plan is to boost the economy to generate more wealth but there are some strong economic headwinds to overcome and it may take quite a while to achieve the desired results. The reactionaries are watching from the sidelines and will pounce as soon as popular dissatisfaction with the leftist government reaches a certain level. Again France comes to mind.


I think you do it in a very nitpicking and insulting manner though, as if he were glennn, Oralloy, or a religious nutjob. I've seen lots of people on this site get their facts wrong or misinterpret something they've read. I've done it myself. But it's possible to engage individuals in these instances without mocking them, commenting on their intelligence, or denigrating their home community. I've called attention to people's misstatements (including the OP's) without it devolving into an argument. Sometimes well-meaning corrections are even appreciated – I consider it part of my "continuing education". And, yes, there are people with whom I'm more than willing to do battle, but I've never considered the OP one of them. I respect where he's coming from and enjoy reading his insights and opinions.