The Communist Origin of the Modern Conservative Movement VI

Liar:



I'm not interested in backing anyone up — I'm showing you why your arguments remain unconvincing. Come up with better stuff and I'll leave you alone.

And here, let me parse this sentence for you:



"His" refers to you and the claims you make.


Ha ha — wtf are you even talking about? Where did I suggest there were moral issues involved? Correcting someone's faulty logic or demonstrating someone's poor reasoning is hardly a moral concern.

OK, I did make a judgement, after he refused to back up his claim, he just repeated it. I'll also show you his original claim:

So his claim was 3 arrest's of Trump's Stormtroopers... I took this to be part of the BS rhetoric against the ICE agents, which he did talk about in another post.


Actually you are concerned with backing him up. You don't question his claims and accept them as fact.


Claims I make? You mean like asking him to prove what he says?


Keep kissing his ass. He agree's with you, so no challenges will be made by you to his BS.

No, to back up your own claims. Like this one:

That's what you said and it was a lie. You could have checked it out before you posted it.

No, I'm concerned with exposing your misstatements and lies. If your arguments were accurate I wouldn't feel any need to post at all. Don't blame Zardoz for your ineffectiveness.

I'm not compelled to question his claims, and just because I don't question them doesn't mean that I accept everything he says as fact. As far as I'm concerned, this is his blog and if I don't like what he has to say I don't have to read it.

So he gets to claim that 3 "stormtroopers" were arrested with no proof, I call him out on it and want a source and you want to claim I lied? I was wrong, I didn't lie. I'm still waiting for the source for the other 2 arrest's.


That would require me to fact check his claims... which I won't due since he makes so many wrong claims and doesn't provide the initial proof.


You are actually defending him, by letting him get away with making claims he doesn't back and then calling other people liars for challenging his claims...


You aren't compelled because you take him at his word... non-socialists you are compelled to question.

It seems I must hold your hand and show you where the information is at. It is simple to do a search for
”people arrested for threatening Ilhan Omar.” Read it and weep. One New York man had a thousand rounds of ammunition. Sounds like a mass murder looking for an excuse.
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Not all Trump voters have a thousand rounds of ammunition yet but it doesn’t mean that they don’t think that way. After all they are supporting a known racist.

The Mueller Report stated that the Russian military information reached a 136 million Americans. They not only have their name and email address they know a lot about them. The information taken from face book gave them a lot of details about their targets. They know they are the most gullible people in America and they will forward the information to their most gullible friends. Both Trump and Don Jr retweet the Russian lies. Even now 75% of Republicans believe that Obama was not an American citizen even after the birth certificate was produced, it is evident the Russian have found an absolute gold mine in Republican voters they will literally believe anything even the wildest conspiracy theories. Numbers were even higher well-informed republican voters.

We now know why the color of the Republican party is red they share it with their Russian friends. We know for a fact that the Russian are going to try and make sure that Trump is reelected. We also know they were able to compromise the election boards in all 50 states. As we have moved away from paper ballots there is no longer a paper ballot back up to computer votes. Now the Republicans are trying to stop a bill passed by the House to secure the voting machines. The Republicans want to make sure the Russians have full and unfettered access to the computer voting machines in the next election. Why? They know that the Russian are working to get Trump and the Republicans reelected. Every voting machine in America should be required to create a hard copy of the votes. They say none of the vote totals have been changed but if there is not a paper backup how would anyone know? It is a secret ballot so no one knows how people voted. You don’t have to change a large number of votes only a few in each precinct would alter the outcome in a battleground state.

Immigration and customs took an American citizen with papers into custody for 23 days. How bad will racism get under the Trump administration? Anybody that even looks remotely Hispanic will be arrested and sent back to Mexico. In the racist’s mind the only people that are real Americans are white Americans.
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“Francisco Erwin Galicia, 18, was born in Dallas, Texas and, according to his birth certificate, is an American citizen. But he was held in federal immigration custody for nearly four weeks after he was detained at a Border Patrol traffic checkpoint in south Texas.”

From “The New York Times
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If Trump gets a next term look for them to start deporting blacks back to Africa.

In America we are witnessing “creeping racism” it grows slowly almost like watching a plant grow. If you watch the plant closely you don’t notice the growth but come back after a couple of weeks the growth is very obvious. The German people in pre-world war two Germany did not hate the Jewish people but the racist did. A relatively small group of people were able to single out the Jewish people as objects of hate, they claimed the Jews were the cause of the country economic problems, others said the Jews killed and ate babies. Before long Germany became the biggest lynch mob in history.

If you think there is any real difference in what happened in pre-world war Germany and what is happening in America today you are sadly mistaken the parallels are striking. The leaders of both countries were elected spewing hate and lies and pointing to scapegoats. When Trump launched his campaign, it was a campaign of hate against a racial group he labeled them criminals, gang members, and rapists. Hate is probably the easiest of all the emotion to manipulate. The bible said the poor would always be with us but it never warned us that the racists would always be with us also.

Fair enough.

Like I said though, they made little difference.

Sorry about the delayed reply. I thought that I had already posted this reply a long time ago.

The Tommygun was marketed as a self defense weapon.





The pistol grips were put there so that the gun could be fired without the shoulder stock attached.

Bump stocks serve no purpose other than to make a semi-auto mimic a full auto.

Semi-autos, on the other hand, serve many legitimate purposes, like hunting and self defense.

That is why the Constitution requires that the regulations be on bump stocks, and not on semi-autos.



That's why they were outlawed.



That is incorrect. Having a pistol grip on a gun does not make it a weapon of war.



That is incorrect. A semi-auto cannot be fired as fast as a full-auto.



That is incorrect. Having a pistol grip on a gun does not make it designed to kill people.



That is incorrect. The pistol grip will make no difference.



OK.



If so, the pistol grips had nothing to do with it.



That depends on the rifle. Regardless of endurance though, shouldering the weapon and aiming it is the only way to reliably hit a target.



That is incorrect. Pistol grips do not make it easier to strafe a crowd.



That's why bump stocks were subsequently outlawed.



That is incorrect. The death toll shows that those murderers made an effort to actually aim their weapons.



Who knows. But it wouldn't make any difference if they did.



Chemical weapons are regarded as much more horrible than guns and bombs, so their use was outlawed while the use of guns and bombs remains a legal form of warfare.



It was still a horrible crime.



Two of the four classes of weapons that are counted as WMDs can kill millions of people with a single shot.



That is incorrect. Chemical weapons don't kill in greater numbers than lawfully-accepted bombs do. They are considered WMDs because their method of harming people is considered particularly appalling.

Radiological weapons are considered WMDs not because they kill people, but because they render large areas uninhabitable.



The pistol grips had nothing to do with any of those deaths.



That is incorrect. Someone who was six feet away from the missile strike would be completely unharmed.



Swords will not harm anyone who is beyond their reach.



Anyone who tries to kill people that way will kill few people, if any at all.

Bump stocks are useless without a semi-automatic to put them on. Bump stocks won’t fire one single bullet by themselves. Bump stocks are only a mechanism that makes a semi-automatic fire faster than it otherwise would. Just like the mechanism that makes an assault weapon capable of firing at a 900 rounds per minute rate if one mechanism can be banned it is just as easy to ban the other mechanism. There is no reason to fire 900 rounds to kill a deer or even an intruder. You only need that kind of fire power to commit mass murder.
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Assault weapons are the problem, after bump stocks are banned other mechanisms will be designed that does the same thing because it simply exploits the existing design capacity of the assault weapon.
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Assault weapons designed to fire 900 rounds a minute are the problem.
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Let’s say you can only pull the trigger at half of the design rate of assault weapon. That is still at a rate of 450 rounds a minute. That’s still good enough to kill twenty school kids.
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A pistol grip is what is needed with an assault weapon because you can just strafe a crowd. You are not going to have to aim when you are firing enough rounds you simply watch were the rounds are hitting. Assault weapons and pistol grips complement each other.
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Semi-automatic assault weapons can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger.
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Assault weapons are designed to kill large number of people and pistol grips enhance that ability.
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Assault weapons make the mass murder and pistol grip makes it much easier to hold.
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A locked door can really ruin a mass murder’s day. Then the shooter becomes the target.
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Somehow, I don’t think Machine Kelly ever robbed a bank with his machine gun held up to his shoulder. It was always held at his waist. Pistol grips made that possible.
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It seems that mass murders can kill 49 people without taking aim. Taking aim takes time and that is the one thing that a mass murder doesn’t have. If you were deer hunting do you think the deer would stand still and wait to be shot. If you wanted to kill a herd of deer you would want to fire as many rounds as possible as fast as possible.
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Did you ever see anyone strafe a crowd with a gun at their shoulder? Mass murders hold the gun by the pistol grip for a reason.
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The only mass murder done with a bump stock was Las Vegas the others were done with assault weapons for the most part.
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There is no need to try to aim an assault weapon and it would be impossible to aim the way they are held.
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Not one mass murder has ever chosen to use the traditional rifle model of the AR-15.
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Bombs may only kill a few people or in some cases depending on where they land, they may not kill anyone but assault weapons continue to kill hundreds who are not at war with anyone.
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If you determine horrible by the numbers far more people are killed in America with assault weapons then were killed in Syria by chemical weapons. You can only be so dead.
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The definition of weapons of mass destruction should have been updated when assault weapons were invented.
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Chemical weapons kill only people and do not destroy building or other structures. They are considered weapons of mass destruction because of the number of people killed.
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The pistol grips enhance the ability to kill large numbers of people.
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That would depend on how much explosives the missiles held.
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An explosion can send swords a long-ways.
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People for the most part are faithful followers of PLR (path of least resistance) if all they have access is to a single shot rifle, they will give up on their fantasy of mass murder.
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"Marketed", not designed. By the time it was out of the development stage it's intended use as a gun for trench warfare was no longed relevant as WWI had ended.

Well then, they can be disposed off.

Given that there is no reason to prohibit them, that would be a violation of our civil liberties.

Given that there is no reason to prohibit them, the only reason why the left wishes to do so is because they think that it is fun to violate our civil liberties.

Trump protects us from leftists who try to violate our civil liberties for fun. We need to reelect Trump so that he can continue to protect our civil liberties.

Why would you care for something that makes no difference whatsoever? :-)

Because we don't like having our civil liberties violated, especially when the only reason for the violation is because leftists enjoy violating our civil liberties.

It also serves as a convenient battleground. It is easy to defeat the left on this issue since their only justification for trying to ban pistol grips on rifles is because they think it is fun to violate our civil liberties.

By repeatedly battling the left on this specific issue, we guarantee ourselves an endless string of victories, whereas if we ceded this issue to the left, the next thing that they try to ban might be politically harder for us to defend.

This strategizing is just a fringe benefit though. The real reason why we stand and fight on this issue is because we will not stand for having our civil liberties violated.

So you want to keep some useless stuff because some leftists want to ban some useless stuff... Does that pass for intelligent, where you come from?

No. I want to keep it because I will not stand for having my civil liberties violated.



Yes.

You're not free. You won't be able to understand why free people refuse to let our civil liberties be violated.