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The Communist Origin of the Modern Conservative Movement VI

 
 
Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 18 Feb, 2019 09:47 am
@Zardoz,
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The Nazis were a small minority in Germany at one time. Hate is easier to sell than anything else. You need only look at lynch mobs to see how easily normal people can be transformed into monsters who cut the fingers off of corpses and hand them out to children for souvenirs. I have a problem with anyone carry an AR-15, left, right or in the middle.

The only lynch mobs I see are Antifa.

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There would be no Antifa there in the first place if the Nazis had not come from all over the nation to get involved in what amounts to a local issue.

Antifa was already committing violence in other parts of the country and showed up in Charlottesville to commit violence.

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It wasn’t Antifa that killed anybody at Charlottesville it was the Nazis that tried to commit mass murder.

Mass murder? In reality, lots and lots of Antifa people have been arrested for violence.

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Sorry farmers are still paid not to grow crops, excess crops are bought up, farmers are bought out of the milk business.

Fact's proof links?

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Do you understand the taxpayer’s money was used to build the theaters and then given to millionaires to make a profit?

That's not how it works. You sound like AOC talking about Amazon in NY.

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The old theaters often had lines stretching around the block until the ungodly greedy socialist show up and that is a form of socialism.

That's not how it works. No one gives money to anyone, it's likely in the form of tax breaks and spending on streets and underground plumbing.

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They socialize a major portion of the cost of their businesses and then privatize the profit. I understand that if you give $10 million of taxpayer money to one business the other business cannot survive.

Wrong again, that's not how it works.

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How do you expect me to set up links to council meeting held before the internet came along?

News stories from the time would have the info. I'm only going to say that how you keep describing it, doesn't take place that way.

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There are currently two pilot programs in the United States where a guaranteed wage is given to anyone that is unemployed. If they start a business the wage is continued until the business gets on its feet. It is also being experimented with in Europe. A guaranteed wage is a pay check just like you and I get.

No it isn't the same, I actually work for my paychecks, no one gives me anything. Finland is the country you are talking about, and they just cancelled the program.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/23/finland-to-end-basic-income-trial-after-two-years

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One of the biggest costs of local governments is paying for prisoners held in the local jail. If you put someone in jail it costs the county $48.25 a day.

Sounds like it's cheaper to pay for a prisoners than it is to pay for a building inspector... Sounds like the biggest costs to local govt is the salaries of those in govt.

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If you incarcerate 20 illegals for 6 months waiting for ICE to come get them it would cost $347,400 to keep them until ICE bothered to come after them.

Ice comes and gets them the minute they are told someone they put a hold on is available for pickup.

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When we called the Feds to come and get the illegals, they came up with all kinds of excuses why they could not pick them up.

Why do you keep lying about what you did for a living. You were not a LEO, you were a building inspector. Stop making yourself sound more important than you really were. You didn't call anyone to pick anyone up.

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Yeah, it was a real question. Point being you are just as dead killed by an American as killed by an illegal alien. No matter what they do there will always be illegals aliens and there will always be crime.

That doesn't mean we have to let more people into our country to commit more crime. We have enough crime with US citizens.

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The story is part of history and no revisionist history will replace it. You are much like the Nazis insist the holocaust never took place it was just a story made up by the Jews. Those incidences did not show up in any history book I ever saw. That would show an understanding of germs long before they knew germs existed. Germs were not discovered until 1860.

You continue to prove that history isn't your strong hand.

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There are no permanent residence in Antarctica no one live in a volcano, no lives at the bottom ocean.

There are permanent bases and camps though and a human presence is always there.

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When the oceans wash over coastal cities, as is already beginning, no one will live in the surf.

Yeah, which cities? Fact's proof links?

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A city in Texas was protesting the wall today because it will effectively change the border with the wall ruining their property.

A city in Texas that likely already has a border barrier.

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Geneticist and the KKK don’t agree with you.

What does this refer to?

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You have a persecution complex.

Not even close.

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You still carry a lot of anger around with you because your experience in high school and that explains a lot of your political positions.

Another case of transference?

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When a law is found unconstitutional, they go back to the drawing board. It is usually just a few small portions of that are found unconstitutional once the offending section are removed a new law replaces the old and that is what happened in this case. Trump’s immigration program went through a similar process being determined unconstitutional and later adjusted.

The SCOTUS hasn't ruled against Trump on Immigration. In fact they backed him when it came to his Immigration Ban from certain Muslim counties.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/26/supreme-court-upholds-president-trump-immigration-travel-ban/701110002/

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The only people that want to get rid of freedom are the conservatives who want to take even the most basic freedom in the world and that is the freedom of your own biological processes. That would indeed make the founding fathers spin in their grave.

So you have backed off of your claim that the only rights we have are the ones that are written down? Sorry to tell you, a single medical procedure doesn't encapsulate the whole of human rights.

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There were always conservatives who don’t want things to change they want to bring back the good old days. That is the very definition of the word. Conservatives are afraid of change.

If that's the case, why won't the DNC allow social security to change, it's been the same for about 100 years and our economy isn't even close to what it was back then. Talk about not wanting change.

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I can purchase insurance from any health insurance company in the United States.

No you can't, the insurance company has to be permitted in your state. One of the biggest changes that could have been made to the health insurance market would have been allowing cross state border purchase of insurance plans.

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During open enrolment I am bombarded with applications from all kinds of insurance. The 2900% increase for health insurance was self-funded. In other words, the city paid all the medical expenses and paid blue cross a 10% administrative fee. So, the 2900% really reflects only the increasing cost of medical care. No amount of competition can provide insurance below the actual cost of medical care. More competition is foolish pipe dream for idiots, It is BS.

So says the Socialist.






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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 18 Feb, 2019 09:55 am
@Zardoz,
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Are you saying the leftist are the ones that voted for Trump?

Where did I say that?

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Trump and his family were retweeting the adds do you think they were against Trump?

Fact's proof links?

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Do you know of any adds that accused Trump of running a child molesting ring out pizza parlor and then serving the children for lunch?

We do know of a paper that trys to say Trump liked being pissed on. We know that's a lie, but you still brought it up anyways. Who was taken in by the propaganda?

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This was believed by so many people that the pizza parlor was attacked by guy with a gun.

Not many people believed such a thing, and one wacko doesn't make a majority.

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You are taking one sentence out of context in the article “The refrain has become: “There is no evidence that the Russian effort changed any votes.””

But and it is a huge, “but” the following paragraph lays out the truth
“But the bombshell 37-page indictment issued Friday by Robert Muller against Russia Internet Research Agency and its leadership and affiliates provides considerable detail on the Russian information warfare targeting the American public during the election. And this information makes it increasingly difficult to say that the Kremlin effort to impact the American did not succeed.”

Complex doesn't mean successful. Only the extreme left thinks they had a major impact on the election. In the mean time, you are doing the work of the Russians to destabilize our election system. You are a Russian agent.

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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 18 Feb, 2019 10:02 am
@Zardoz,
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Things got done for years in a bipartisan way budgets were written and passed.

That was until the mid-2000's when the DNC took back the house and did everything they could to undermine Bush.

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When Obama became president, a yearly budget could no longer be passed the government operated on continuing resolutions of a few months.

Wrong again. Obama failed to have his first budget ready in 2010, and this started the continuing resolutions. Obama wasn't willing to work with the GOP controlled House and later the GOP controlled Senate. Obama continually lost seats in every election because he wasn't a great President, he was ok.

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The Republicans said let the public be damned we block everything that Obama tries to do.

It worked, the GOP picked up seats in every election during the Obama years.


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Zardoz
 
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Reply Mon 18 Feb, 2019 11:25 pm
@Baldimo,
You were talking about foreign aid and tithing are done by percentage. That is how they keep score.
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No, it is the facts that make it not true.
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The law that would make it a crime to address someone by the wrong gender.
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The checks went to the development company that owns the shopping center. In this case the money came from the Federal Government. The original concept called for some sort of bus transfer station. The money came from the House Transportation Committee. When finished it was an ordinary strip type mall with two large parking garages. In the end it had nothing to do with a bus transfer center. Most businesses that opened failed within a few years. Huntington was a planned city and had wide 4 lane one-way streets the mall bought up the street and ended tiny two-lane Avenue that discouraged people from going downtown. Of the original tenants, only the theaters remain.
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The citizens protested and stopped Amazon from building in New York. Amazon building would buy up the lower income housing and it would be very difficult for those people to find housing in New York. The deal called for Amazon to be tax free for two years. Other businessmen protested the deal.
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Again, that was something that took place but not on the internet. My office was located in the former Amazon floor. When they left, they left all of the computers, monitors, and office furniture. We used some of their monitors for second screens. I carried one of the office chairs home. Goodwill got the cubicles and a lot of it was trashed. I am sure we bought them all new equipment for their new building. This is what Bezos did better than anyone else was ripping off taxpayers.
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If a business does not have to pay taxes for two years someone else’s taxes are raised to offset the loss. It was finally narrowed down to two cities, New York and Northern Virginia. Now it seems that Nashville looks as it is on the inside track.
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Because that is what is going on. When one business is paying taxes, and others are not it is not a level playing field. That is government picking winners and losers. When I enforced contractor law the idea was to create a level playing field. A contractor that didn’t pay taxes could under bid a contractor that did. Government is doing exactly the opposite they are making the playing field uneven.
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That wasn’t the article that I had originally read but it was an article about the same incident. That article papers over a huge taxpayer handout to a huge multinational corp. The original article was not near the rosy scenario the second article was.
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Use “Number of Canadians coming to America for medical care” in a google search. The first paragraph gives that figure.
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Big percentage increases happen when there are small numbers to begin with. If you have 1 person getting medical care and it goes to 2 people that is a 100% increase.
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The Republicans thought Clinton telling one lie about his sex life was grounds for impeachment. That was the worst thing in the world a president that lied, now it does not bother the holier than thou crowd that Trump is a pathological liar that lies with every breath he takes.
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I don’t know how or when it changed but it is the insurance company keeping me from getting appropriate medical care. The insurance company should never have the power to decide who gets medical care. I decided to see a specialist when I crushed my hand tearing down an engine crane. Despite all the blood and pain, I knew the other problem hurt far worse than my hand. Let say you are having chest pain and call for an appointment at a cardiologist and they call back and say you need to see your GP which happens to be out of town. So, you have to wait 2 weeks to even call for an appointment to see a cardiologist maybe you live and maybe you die. The insurance has a vested interest in you dying. You represent a $150,000 liability on the insurance company’s books. The CEO of the insurance company is far better off if you would just die. Putting someone in the decision loop that has a $150,000 vested interest in you dying is foolish.
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Medical care needs to be affordable and doctors should make a good wage, but it has to be affordable for the general public. At one time doctors had to accept what their patients could afford to pay but when insurance companies were started by the doctors the sky was the limit as what they could charge. The doctors owned and managed the insurance companies and the market forces of supply and demand no longer applied.
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All those people that go to work after high school, digging ditches, working at Walmart, as garbagemen, pay the taxes that pay for doctor’s education. In WV you start paying for educating doctors as soon as you drink your first soft drink, 5 cents tax is levied on every soft drink to pay for the WV University medical school. I have personally paid for several doctor’s education. Public Universities educations are paid for by tax dollars the doctor only pay a small portion of the actual cost of their education.

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Searches do the same thing as link, you just have to do a little work.
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There are a number of different ways to determine inflation. Obviously, you can’t count everything. For instance, the cost of luxuries are not used in figuring inflation. If diamond rings and yachts, go up 600% it does not affect the cost of living because they are not necessary to live. So, the basics things need to sustain life. Cost of housing should be figured in. But Reagan replaced the cost of housing with a figure of what you would rent your house to yourself this really lowered the inflation rate. Next the cost of computers was put into figure the cost of living. If you got more memory cheaper this cut the cost of living. Reagan just took the inflation out of inflation calculation.
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Look at your standard of living to the standard of living of the middle class 50 years ago.
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There was a war debt from WWI, but taxes were raised to pay it down.
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There were no other wars declared by Obama. They were after terrorists and used drones to target known terrorists in other countries.
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You are right, Cheney told the public that are troops would march into Iraq as conquering heroes and the Iraqi people would be throwing rose pedals at their feet. Instead they were throwing bombs.
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I know space x launched one of his cars into space, but I did not know he had a particular location in mind. That car won’t do well on mars. One of the Mars rovers just died after 15 years. Nasa has been exploring Mars for years that is an accomplishment. Space X got benefit of all NASA discoveries over the last 50 years. NASA does not need to reuse rockets. Can you imagined if a used rocket killed several people, there would be hell to pay.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 19 Feb, 2019 09:14 am
@Zardoz,
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You were talking about foreign aid and tithing are done by percentage. That is how they keep score.

No, it was actually you who changed the subject to this. I could care less about tithing, I'm not a Christian and don't attend church. As for foreign aid, I'd be fine if we stopped sending "aid" to countries who don't have our best interests at heart. Keeping score by percentage is stupid, percentages help no one, actual dollars help people. No country in the world gives away as money as the US does.

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No it is not lazy it is more of a lack of interest.

No, it's laziness. You don't want to have to prove what you claim, so you call it "lack of interest".

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No, it is the facts that make it not true.

What facts? I still have no idea what this line was about.

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The law that would make it a crime to address someone by the wrong gender.

Where did it not pass? Here in the US? Canada or the UK?

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The checks went to the development company that owns the shopping center.

Fact's proof links?

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In this case the money came from the Federal Government.

So you lied, none of the money came from local govt like you implied it did. Why am I not surprised by this change in facts...

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The citizens protested and stopped Amazon from building in New York.

No they didn't. An idiot freshmen Congresswoman played a large part in the cancellation of the HQ2.

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Amazon building would buy up the lower income housing and it would be very difficult for those people to find housing in New York. The deal called for Amazon to be tax free for two years. Other businessmen protested the deal.

Wrong on so many points, you should try reading the real news stories on the issue, not socialists propaganda.

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Again, that was something that took place but not on the internet.

There would be news about the issue.

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I am sure we bought them all new equipment for their new building. This is what Bezos did better than anyone else was ripping off taxpayers.

You are sure but have zero proof of what you say, as usual.

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If a business does not have to pay taxes for two years someone else’s taxes are raised to offset the loss. It was finally narrowed down to two cities, New York and Northern Virginia. Now it seems that Nashville looks as it is on the inside track.

That's not what happened and that's not how it works. What they actually got was 3 million in tax breaks. If Amazon had to pay 10 million in taxes, they would actually pay $7million. You like AOC have no idea what you are talking about.

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That is government picking winners and losers. When I enforced contractor law the idea was to create a level playing field. A contractor that didn’t pay taxes could under bid a contractor that did.

You investigated people's taxes as part of being a building inspector?

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Government is doing exactly the opposite they are making the playing field uneven.

You mean the city of New York? The Federal govt actually has nothing to do with Amazon moving it's HQ.

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That wasn’t the article that I had originally read but it was an article about the same incident. That article papers over a huge taxpayer handout to a huge multinational corp. The original article was not near the rosy scenario the second article was.

So you continue to have no facts or proof to back what you say.

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Use “Number of Canadians coming to America for medical care” in a google search. The first paragraph gives that figure.

Did you read the article? The first paragraph talks about a lady with blood cancer who couldn't get treatment in Canada because of an 8 month wait and she died before she could get treatment. Not a good start to your claims. The article also shows that there has been a year over year increase in Canadians coming to the US for treatment.

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The Republicans thought Clinton telling one lie about his sex life was grounds for impeachment. That was the worst thing in the world a president that lied, now it does not bother the holier than thou crowd that Trump is a pathological liar that lies with every breath he takes.

More lies told by the left. Bill Clinton didn't just lie, he covered up and tried to hid evidence of the cover up. Only the left boils down the Clinton affair into lying about a blow job. Never mind all the other stuff that went on like job promises.

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I don’t know how or when it changed but it is the insurance company keeping me from getting appropriate medical care. The insurance company should never have the power to decide who gets medical care.

This is your pattern. When you can't prove what you say, you tell a story, hoping it will cover up the fact you can't prove what you claim.

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Medical care needs to be affordable and doctors should make a good wage, but it has to be affordable for the general public.

What makes you think you can determine what a Dr. should make? You seem to think a heart doctor should make the same amount as a factory worker.

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At one time doctors had to accept what their patients could afford to pay but when insurance companies were started by the doctors the sky was the limit as what they could charge.

It wasn't that they had to accept, it's what they did accept. I'm sure they got tired of being paid in chickens and cows and wanted some real money for the services they were providing.

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The doctors owned and managed the insurance companies and the market forces of supply and demand no longer applied.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_in_the_United_States

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All those people that go to work after high school, digging ditches, working at Walmart, as garbagemen, pay the taxes that pay for doctor’s education.

No they don't, just like other college students medical students get student loans to pay for their education. The end up paying those loans back just like people who have worth while educations do.

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In WV you start paying for educating doctors as soon as you drink your first soft drink, 5 cents tax is levied on every soft drink to pay for the WV University medical school. I have personally paid for several doctor’s education. Public Universities educations are paid for by tax dollars the doctor only pay a small portion of the actual cost of their education.

Fact's proof links?

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Searches do the same thing as link, you just have to do a little work.

You actually have to provide your own sources, don't be lazy.

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There are a number of different ways to determine inflation. Obviously, you can’t count everything. For instance, the cost of luxuries are not used in figuring inflation. If diamond rings and yachts, go up 600% it does not affect the cost of living because they are not necessary to live. So, the basics things need to sustain life. Cost of housing should be figured in. But Reagan replaced the cost of housing with a figure of what you would rent your house to yourself this really lowered the inflation rate. Next the cost of computers was put into figure the cost of living. If you got more memory cheaper this cut the cost of living. Reagan just took the inflation out of inflation calculation.

You have zero fact's to back this up and no way to prove what you have said. It's just like everything else you post, words with no facts.

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Look at your standard of living to the standard of living of the middle class 50 years ago.

Vastly improved from the 1950's. In fact the majority of Americans have seen a vast improvement in their standard of living in the last 30 years.

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There was a war debt from WWI, but taxes were raised to pay it down.

Facts proof links?

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There were no other wars declared by Obama. They were after terrorists and used drones to target known terrorists in other countries.

We went from bombing 2 countries under Bush to bombing 8 countries under Obama... those are facts. How many govt agents were in those countries during the "Arab Spring" to bring about destabilization? Obama was just as war hungry as any other previous president. Had Hillary been in office, we would be fighting in many more places, she was a war hawk.

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You are right, Cheney told the public that are troops would march into Iraq as conquering heroes and the Iraqi people would be throwing rose pedals at their feet. Instead they were throwing bombs.

You confuse the common person in Iraq with terrorists. Why do you support terrorists?

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I know space x launched one of his cars into space, but I did not know he had a particular location in mind.

Mars has always been the aim of Space X and Elon Musk. He wants to create the first colony on Mars and he is very likely going to do it.

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That car won’t do well on mars. One of the Mars rovers just died after 15 years.

It's not meant to be driven on Mars silly, it was more about putting a pay-load into orbit around Mars, it was the next step to colonize Mars.

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Nasa has been exploring Mars for years that is an accomplishment.

I'm not saying it isn't, I'm saying NASA can't keep up with the demand for space achievements. They gave up that slot when we stopped the Shuttle program under Obama with nothing to replace it.

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Space X got benefit of all NASA discoveries over the last 50 years.

Not really, SpaceX developed all their own technology from the ground up, including their rockets and space suits.

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NASA does not need to reuse rockets. Can you imagined if a used rocket killed several people, there would be hell to pay.

NASA actually doesn't have anything right now, so this comment is worthless.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Tue 19 Feb, 2019 09:46 pm
@Baldimo,
Even though it took you 4 years to pay for a $30,000 car it is still cost $30,000. The same way with the cell phones, even if you paid for them over 2 years, they are still $1,000 phones and they ware out almost before they are paid for.
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“Here is How Widespread Mortgage Fraud Created the Housing Bubble”

Source: Business Insider
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You mean the regulations that the right always brags about eliminating don’t you. Clinton could never repeal a law. The legislative branch is the only one with the power to eliminate laws. Clinton should have vetoed it, but congress would have just overrode his veto. Bankers stood to make billions and they would have purchased enough politicians to override Clinton’s veto.
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Just look at Trump’s campaigned on eliminating regulations. When Trump took office, he eliminated every regulation that he could override with an executive order. A chemical that is used to treat coal leaked into the river upstream from the water intake for the city of Charleston. The whole water system had to be shut down and cleaned. It left the city without water for three weeks. An executive order would no longer allow that chemical to be stored with in 100s of feet of a waterway. One of Trump’s first executive order was to allow that chemical in a few feet of major waterways. Why not also eliminate the laws against murder and child molestation.
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In two years, Trump has issued more executive orders than any president in history. There are regulations and laws. A president cannot overide a law, but regulations do not carry the force of law and can be changed by the executive branch.
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Make no mistake about it I think Clinton was bought by Wall Street. I think he sold his soul to the devil for a few dollars more. This is why we have to get the money out of politics. Cubic dollar corrupts everything that it touches and that alone is a reason to prevent large accumulations of wealth.
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While the KKK is not a majority they are gaining strength and their views are bleeding into the national discourse.
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You can say that the article was misleading but all I did was reprint the sentence verbatim.
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This nation started with an egalitarian distribution of wealth. At one time it was argued that only wealthy could build a business but now we know that stock holders can provide the same amount of money. The rich have become obsolete that was the argument of why they were needed in the first place.
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CEO’s spend far more time on the Golf Course than most people and they chalk up the time as business meetings and you can imagine how much time is spent in other forms of recreation during work hours, like three hours at the gym. The all-nighters they tell their wives they are working are actually spent with their mistress.
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Not just socialists but by the whole Canadian population that would be paying $20,000 a year for health insurance whose mission is make sure you don’t get health care to increase their profit. He is a national hero. The Republican’s national hero is Whitaker Chambers a known communist spy.
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Cyber wars were not possible during Reagans term. The book “House of Trump, House of Putin” list nearly 50 Russian Mafia and GPU agents that are directly or indirectly involved with Trump. A good portion of the Russians live in Trump Tower. Some of the worst criminals live in the floor below Trump’s residence.
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The problem is that Wikileaks is functioning like a branch of the Russian military and Trump just loves Wikileaks. There will always be leaks and leakers but there is only one Wikileaks.
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The Justice Department is part of the executive branch and any international warrant would have to be enforced by the Justice Department and we know Trump controls the Justice Department. We Just found out today that Trump went to the acting attorney general demanding he replace the US Attorney in New York that is prosecuting Trump’s businesses in New York with an attorney who had already recused himself because he contributed to the Trump campaign and worked in the campaign to get a job in the Trump administration. Trump would instruct his Attorney General not to prosecute Wikileaks because he needs their help in the next election.
What ever Wikileaks exposed about Bush the source was not from the Russian military break in at GOP headquarters.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2019 08:24 am
@Zardoz,
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Even though it took you 4 years to pay for a $30,000 car it is still cost $30,000.

It cost more than $30k, you forgot about interest on the loan.

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The same way with the cell phones, even if you paid for them over 2 years, they are still $1,000 phones and they ware out almost before they are paid for.

What's this change of subject about anyways?

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Here is How Widespread Mortgage Fraud Created the Housing Bubble”
Source: Business Insider

Why did you skip the first two articles in the 3 article series? Because the first 2 articles talk about what I said was the issue, subprime loans and easier standards to get loans.

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You mean the regulations that the right always brags about eliminating don’t you.

It depends on which regulations.

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Clinton could never repeal a law. The legislative branch is the only one with the power to eliminate laws.

Wrong again, it takes the House, Senate and President to "eliminate" laws.

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Clinton should have vetoed it, but congress would have just overrode his veto. Bankers stood to make billions and they would have purchased enough politicians to override Clinton’s veto.

To override a veto, it takes 2/3's of both houses of Congress, it can't be done with a simple vote. The classic battles between Clinton and Congress showed what can be done in govt.

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Just look at Trump’s campaigned on eliminating regulations. When Trump took office, he eliminated every regulation that he could override with an executive order.

Trump eliminated things with an executive order when those things were put in place by an EO. We can never forgot Obama's famous line about "his pen and phone"...

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In two years, Trump has issued more executive orders than any president in history.

Considering the majority of those EO's were signed to counter Obama EO's, I think your standing on thin ice.

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There are regulations and laws. A president cannot overide a law, but regulations do not carry the force of law and can be changed by the executive branch.

Which shows the weakness of Obama because he ruled by EO.

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Make no mistake about it I think Clinton was bought by Wall Street. I think he sold his soul to the devil for a few dollars more.

Wouldn't you have to believe in God to believe in the Devil?

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This is why we have to get the money out of politics. Cubic dollar corrupts everything that it touches and that alone is a reason to prevent large accumulations of wealth.

We don't have to remove money from politics, that's the same as eliminating free speech.

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Sorry my internet comes over phone wires not cable TV wires.

So. It's still a level of technology that didn't exist 30 years ago. Standard phone lines didn't have the bandwidth for high speed internet either, it was technology that made that change. Analog vs digital.

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I got rid of my cable 25 years ago when they took off the few channels I watched and put on gun nut TV channels in their place.

So the channels you watched didn't produce enough income for the cable company and they put a more profitable channel in it's place. Gotta love capitalism.

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While the KKK is not a majority they are gaining strength and their views are bleeding into the national discourse.

Not even close to reality. The KKK as a "threat" only lives in the minds of leftists.

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You can say that the article was misleading but all I did was reprint the sentence verbatim.

Is this how you justify a lie? It wasn't the article that was being misleading, it was you, as usual.

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This nation started with an egalitarian distribution of wealth.

No it didn't, and it wasn't even one of the reasons for the Revolutionary war, you really need to read about the real history of the US, not this socialist fever dream you consider history.

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At one time it was argued that only wealthy could build a business but now we know that stock holders can provide the same amount of money.

Which time was that and who in the US said such a thing? Bernie Sanders?

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The rich have become obsolete that was the argument of why they were needed in the first place.

Who said this?

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CEO’s spend far more time on the Golf Course than most people and they chalk up the time as business meetings and you can imagine how much time is spent in other forms of recreation during work hours, like three hours at the gym. The all-nighters they tell their wives they are working are actually spent with their mistress.

You have a stereotyped view of business that doesn't really have a basis in reality. It's almost as if you have watched too much TV like Mad Men.

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Not just socialists but by the whole Canadian population that would be paying $20,000 a year for health insurance whose mission is make sure you don’t get health care to increase their profit. He is a national hero.

Who's a national hero?

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The Republican’s national hero is Whitaker Chambers a known communist spy.

More lies.

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Cyber wars were not possible during Reagans term.

That's because we were the only nation that had anything resembling "The internet" and it wasn't international. You should read up and "Archie" and "Veronica" the early inventions that became the internet.

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The book “House of Trump, House of Putin” list nearly 50 Russian Mafia and GPU agents that are directly or indirectly involved with Trump. A good portion of the Russians live in Trump Tower. Some of the worst criminals live in the floor below Trump’s residence.

Pardon me if I don't read a bias piece of propaganda. Did you hear the Senate Intelligence Committee released it findings on Trump/Russia collusion? It said there was none.

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The problem is that Wikileaks is functioning like a branch of the Russian military and Trump just loves Wikileaks. There will always be leaks and leakers but there is only one Wikileaks.

Did you have any issues with Wikileaks releasing all the info they illegally received from Bradly Manning? How about the info released by Snowden?

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The Justice Department is part of the executive branch and any international warrant would have to be enforced by the Justice Department and we know Trump controls the Justice Department. We Just found out today that Trump went to the acting attorney general demanding he replace the US Attorney in New York that is prosecuting Trump’s businesses in New York with an attorney who had already recused himself because he contributed to the Trump campaign and worked in the campaign to get a job in the Trump administration. Trump would instruct his Attorney General not to prosecute Wikileaks because he needs their help in the next election.
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I read this and see "Big fat nothing burger". Just like the rest of the stories published by the MSM.

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What ever Wikileaks exposed about Bush the source was not from the Russian military break in at GOP headquarters.[

No, it was from a traitor who Obama set free. I find it interesting that you are more upset about the hacking of John Podesta, then you are about the info that was revealed. The DNC is filled with crooks and the emails proved it. To bad the MSM is on the side of the DNC, or they would have reported on what was actually found instead of lying to the public and claim they were the only ones allowed to read the emails... MSM and DNC, traitors to the USA.









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Zardoz
 
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Reply Wed 20 Feb, 2019 11:24 pm
@Baldimo,
The left looks at the actual facts the right believes every lie that President Puss* Graber tells. You may have a belief in God, Buda, Zeus and other mythical characters because there are no facts. There are plenty of cold hard facts that support global warming.
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Global warming will always be disputed by big oil and big coal companies in the same way the cigarette companies disputed all the smokers that died of lung cancer and heart disease. It was easy to see the facts if you worked in the medical care field, but it was easy to run a public relations campaign telling people that smoking was not harmful to your health. I had a friend I ran with that just smoked occasionally but he played in a band and spent untold hours in smoke filled clubs. He developed COPD in his 50s and could no longer run. Our plumbing inspector’s mother, a longtime smoker, burnt up in a house fire while smoking. She was on oxygen and smoking at the time. They hoped she died before the fire started. The same law firms that defended the tobacco companies are no doubt working for big coal and big oil telling the public that it is not unhealthy for the environment to dump millions of tons of pollutants in the air and just as those who found themselves dying of lung cancer found out they were lied to by cigarette companies the general population will find out as their homes are destroyed, by bigger and more severe storms , floods, wild fires and the ocean level rising above their floor level. There is no stronger motive than self-interest than demonstrated by the cigarette companies and big oil and big coal. How could you spread lies as millions died in agony? Easy you have only one reason to exist, making a profit. Nothing else matters.

There is naturally occurring climate change, but it occurs slowly over thousands of years. The climate is now changing at a rate that is 100s of times faster than natural climate change.
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You did watch the record fires in California as the climate gets dryer. The oceans are getting higher and cities are beginning to go under. The climate warming predictions are coming true all arounds us. This was all predicted years ago by climate scientist.
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“Cities Around the US are Flooding at High Tide and on Sunny Days at Record Rates—Here’s What it’s Like”
Source: Business Insider
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The senate intelligence Committee is controlled by the Republicans they will bury it like a bone. The only investigation they can do is question witnesses who lie for a living.
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No e-mail is ever completely deleted because there is a sender and a receiver. One might delete it but the other has a copy. The crowd might have clapped but they were not laughing. Trump is a hate monger and his rallies are staged to incite as much hate as possible. I am surprised Trump was not arrested on the spot and tried for treason. You do not call on are biggest geopolitical enemy to stage a cyber attack to aid your campaign.
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The only difference it would have made is that if the e-mails were on a government server they would not have been deleted and the Russian could have got them for Trump.
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Only a portion of Clinton’s emails were deleted, no doubt the ones that were personal in nature, and the FBI examined many of them and then a computer recovered in a criminal investigation contained many more Clinton emails, none amounted to anything.
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There is an excess of everything, sex, ice cream, steak, and most definitely money.
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If you are going to complain about a percentage of taxes, they pay you have to know what percentage of the income they have. If they paid 58% taxes and only had 1% of the income, they might have an argument, but we all know they have far more than 58% of the income. Wealth and income are two completely different things. Taxes are levied against income not wealth.
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Do you really think a dead person can manage their wealth? There is no link that will explain that dead people can’t take their money with them and they aren’t coming back to get their money. They are gone just like turning a light out. What is left over will become income for someone else.
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The GDP which it the total economic output for a year is higher under Obama’s it was 2.5%, 2.9% than either of Trump’s first two years, 1.6%, 2.2% even after the trillion and half dollar tax cut for the ungodly.
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You know so little, the people that want a job keep looking even after their unemployment has run out in addition people entering the job market don’t draw unemployment. People also go to the unemployment office looking for job leads.
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The difference is the $10 trillion Iraq war is over and the Afghanistan war is only a fraction of what it was under Obama. Trump peace time economy should be paying the debt down not adding to it. The $1.5 trillion is just the tax cut for the ungodly greedy. Trump has already added $2 trillion to the national debt in two years.
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The democrats can see the big picture while the republicans are short sighted. The 50s and 60s were under democrats and that was the biggest economic expansion in history at the time. The Vietnam war destroyed the economy in the 70s. Regan gets credit for some of the early 80’s. The saying at time was they moved an ass H from California to Washington and three million people lost their job.

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The DNC had 30 years of balanced budgets to pay down the National debt. In fact, they were better than balanced because the debt was being paid off.
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He saved the country by destroying it. He tripled the National debt. Until Reagan took office, we had never had a layoff at the city until Reagan got in office and he cost 200 people their job and that was one city out of thousands.
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There are books written about how baby Bush was reading to grade schoolers when the terrorist attack took place. One of the books was written by the head of counter terrorism who tried to warn Bush about the coming terrorist attack and Bush was just too busy vacationing for 9 months to even talk to him. You may wish it was lies but the bad part about history is it is written in stone and won’t go away. If Baby Bush had found time to heed the warning the cockpits of planes could have been reinforced and more air marshals put on planes and the attacks averted but Bush had more important things like tax cuts for the ungodly greedy on his mind.
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Obama did not have a veto proof majority, or many things would have been done. The Republican agenda was to stop everything with a filibuster and with the exception of Obamacare which made it through on a procedure vote that only required 50 votes that is exactly what they did.
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It really does not matter who owns the server as long as it is a private server.
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It is exactly how it works since the previous two secretaries of state prior to Clinton both admitted using private servers that means they could have used any of a number of private servers at it would be hard to track which.
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The Russian cyberattack on Clinton server was not successful, but they tried right after Trump called for the attack.
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The Russian had previously hacked the DNC before they compromised Podesta account. Russia used the information stolen from the DNC to drive a wedge between the two leading democratic candidates splitting or discouraging the Sanders’ supporters from voting. The damaging ones had more to do with the DNC break in.
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There are people like Trump who lie every chance they get and there are others that have character and don’t lie. When you read his book, you will see that Comey is one of the rare people in Washington that has character. If he didn’t have character when Trump asked for loyalty he would have agreed. Trump believed that he could use the FBI to target his political enemies and was mad as hell when he found he could not. Just because Trump says somebody is lying does not make it so. Trump has shown beyond a shadow of doubt that he could not recognize the truth if it was 60 stories high.
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If had read the book on the DNC break in, you would know that FBI informed a low-level employee at the DNC that the Russian had staged a cyber attack on them. Because the FBI contacted low level employees it was weeks before they established contact with the right people. Of course, the first thing you do after a cyber attack is to go after the contact list. Since Podesta had not alerted to the attack when the fishing email came, he did as instructed and changed his password. The Russian were in with very little effort.
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I don’t know why you think Podesta email has anything to do with Trumps calling for cyber attack it does not. Once the FBI became aware, we were under attack from the Russians counter measures were put in place. Decoys were put in place for the Russians to attack. When Trump gave a speech calling for a Russian cyberattack the FBI was ready and waiting and sure enough with in 30 minutes of Trumps request the cyber attacks began. The FBI had already discovered Podesta email compromised and corrected it before Trump started calling for a Russian cyberattack.
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The FBI had already figured out that Trump was a Russian asset and used decoys to catch the Russians.
There was a congressman today who stated that a foreign country is in possession of Clinton’s 30,000 emails.
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In fact, we know Trump loves to watch women pee on each other because of his entertainment choices in America. The Russian could have picked any sexual perversion to pin on Trump out of thousands of sexual perversions. What are the odds that the Russian would arrive at that particular perversion? If it walks like a skunk, smells like a skunk, and has a white stripe down its back, it is a skunk.
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Steele had been used by the FBI for years as a confidential source but once a spy is outed it endangers all of his source’s lives.
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Right now, congress has mandated more sanctions against Russia and Trump has refused to put the sanctions against Russia in place. Trump had planned to refuse to put the first round of sanctions on Russia and Congress passed them 98-2 so Trump would know that a veto was not possible. Flynn had called Russia to tell them all sanction would be removed as soon as Trump took office. Trump’s strategy now is just to refuse to put the sanctions in place. In his campaign Trump ran on removing the sanctions on Russia. Wonder why? No doubt many of the Russians that are sanctioned live in Trump tower.
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You sound like Trump, everything is just fake news, there is no such thing as reality, everyone is out to get you. The facts are very real they give you what the liars says and then they list the actual facts that you can check at a number of independent sources. There is no such thing as a “small lie” it is either the truth or it is a lie there is no middle ground. I have read a number of the fact checks and they compare actual facts and facts don’t change for anyone. If you don’t lie you have nothing to fear.
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You had no choice if you needed to send email during the day. I did not have a private cell phone.
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Do you think all of Clinton private email should have been on a government server? Did she lose her right to use a private server when she became secretary of state?
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The Republicans have been running against Hillary since her husband left office. They spent 15 years doing everything in their power to destroy her reputation. No politician in history ever received so much negative publicity over such a long period of time.
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You have no doubt that the Russian staged the cyberattacks and Trump lives in a building filled with Russian Mafia and Russian spies and you think he had nothing to do with it? That defies common sense. Trump has even spied on the Russian oligarchs living in American for Russia. The man who has declared he wants to be Putin’s best friend.

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If there are no requirement to pay for health insurance people will wait until they get sick to buy health insurance. That would be like waiting until your house catches on fire to buy fire insurance. The fire insurance company could not refuse because they could not refuse because of a pre-existing condition and fire being a pre-existing condition. Say you have 45 years of good health but one day you have chest pain, so you call up an enroll in health insurance. They find you need open heart and it will cost $150,000. Fire insurance won’t work that way, and neither will health insurance. Besides you have been mandated to buy health insurance that you can’t use until you are 65. You will pay health insurance for 47 years before you can use it. So, if you have to buy health insurance (Medicare) there is nothing illegal about mandating buying health insurance now.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2019 09:18 am
@Zardoz,
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The left looks at the actual facts the right believes every lie that President Puss* Graber tells.

The left doesn't look at facts, they rely on emotion.

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You may have a belief in God, Buda, Zeus and other mythical characters because there are no facts.

I don't actually.

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There are plenty of cold hard facts that support global warming.

There really isn't. None of the predictions made by climate alarmists have come true yet they keep the same lies going decade after decade. We were told over 20 years ago that we would be in danger, the facts don't support the claims.

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There is naturally occurring climate change, but it occurs slowly over thousands of years. The climate is now changing at a rate that is 100s of times faster than natural climate change.

It actually doesn't, the climate can shift drastically over years, core samples have proven this to be true. The climate isn't changing any faster now then it did 100 years ago. Man made climate change is a hoax by the anti-oil groups.

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You did watch the record fires in California as the climate gets dryer.

I actually see nothing different with the CA wild fires than I saw 20 years ago when I lived in San Diego. CA is a very dry place and suffers from droughts every couple of years. CA problem is they need to stop flushing water out to the ocean to save a few fish, they cause a majority of their own problems. The last couple of weeks there has been worry about massive flooding in southern CA due to the rains.

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The senate intelligence Committee is controlled by the Republicans they will bury it like a bone.

There is nothing to bury, the report has already been talked about and should be released in the next few weeks. The only people interested in "burying" the report would be the DNC.

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The only investigation they can do is question witnesses who lie for a living.

You do realize that there are democrats who sit on the Intelligence Committee?

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No e-mail is ever completely deleted because there is a sender and a receiver.

This doesn't change the fact that Hillary violated the law by deleting the emails before handing them over for review.

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Trump is a hate monger and his rallies are staged to incite as much hate as possible. I am surprised Trump was not arrested on the spot and tried for treason. You do not call on are biggest geopolitical enemy to stage a cyber attack to aid your campaign.

I thought Hillary's email wasn't hacked?

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The only difference it would have made is that if the e-mails were on a government server they would not have been deleted and the Russian could have got them for Trump.

You continue to prove you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Only a portion of Clinton’s emails were deleted, no doubt the ones that were personal in nature, and the FBI examined many of them and then a computer recovered in a criminal investigation contained many more Clinton emails, none amounted to anything.

She was no suppose to delete any emails, she was to turn them over so they could be reviewed. Instead Hillary did what Hillary wanted to do and ignored regulations, she thinks she's above the law.
Lets also not forget that emails were found on Anthony Weiners laptop, he was married to Hillary's right hand woman Huma. Classified emails shouldn't have been on that laptop.

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There is an excess of everything, sex, ice cream, steak, and most definitely money.

Who says there is an excess?

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If you are going to complain about a percentage of taxes, they pay you have to know what percentage of the income they have.

That's not how taxes work. You don't pay by the portion you have, you pay on what you earn.

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Do you really think a dead person can manage their wealth? There is no link that will explain that dead people can’t take their money with them and they aren’t coming back to get their money. They are gone just like turning a light out. What is left over will become income for someone else.

When someone dies, there is nothing better than the govt making sure they get their piece of the pie. Talk about greed.

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The GDP which it the total economic output for a year is higher under Obama’s it was 2.5%, 2.9% than either of Trump’s first two years, 1.6%, 2.2% even after the trillion and half dollar tax cut for the ungodly.

You have those numbers backwards. Obama told us 2% growth is a thing of the past, the new normal was less than 2% just like it was under Obama. Trump proved him wrong and has seen double the GDP.

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You know so little, the people that want a job keep looking even after their unemployment has run out in addition people entering the job market don’t draw unemployment. People also go to the unemployment office looking for job leads.

This has nothing to do with them dropping off the unemployment rolls and Obama claiming more people were employed. Total workplace participation told a different story.

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Trump peace time economy should be paying the debt down not adding to it.

We don't have a "peace time" economy, we still have troops spread around the world and in foreign countries. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria... the list goes on.

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The democrats can see the big picture while the republicans are short sighted.

You are giving way to much credit to the DNC.

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The DNC had 30 years of balanced budgets to pay down the National debt. In fact, they were better than balanced because the debt was being paid off.

No they didn't. We have never had a balanced budget.

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He saved the country by destroying it. He tripled the National debt. Until Reagan took office, we had never had a layoff at the city until Reagan got in office and he cost 200 people their job and that was one city out of thousands.

Reagan was one of the greatest Presidents in our history, why do you lie so much about history.

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There are books written about how baby Bush was reading to grade schoolers when the terrorist attack took place. One of the books was written by the head of counter terrorism who tried to warn Bush about the coming terrorist attack and Bush was just too busy vacationing for 9 months to even talk to him. You may wish it was lies but the bad part about history is it is written in stone and won’t go away. If Baby Bush had found time to heed the warning the cockpits of planes could have been reinforced and more air marshals put on planes and the attacks averted but Bush had more important things like tax cuts for the ungodly greedy on his mind.

Your understanding of recent history is flawed.

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Obama did not have a veto proof majority, or many things would have been done.

So, since when does a veto proof majority decide how good a President someone is? It shows his complete lack of weakness in working deals. Obama had a much larger majority than Trump has, why do you keep making excuses for Obama? When you do that, it shows how weak he really was.

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The Republican agenda was to stop everything with a filibuster and with the exception of Obamacare which made it through on a procedure vote that only required 50 votes that is exactly what they did.

Much like the DNC agenda when Bush was in office. Since when does the opposition party do what they are told?

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It really does not matter who owns the server as long as it is a private server.

They changed the laws, she was no suppose to be using a private email server or account. She was given a Sec of State email account that she refused to use.

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It is exactly how it works since the previous two secretaries of state prior to Clinton both admitted using private servers that means they could have used any of a number of private servers at it would be hard to track which.

The laws were changed, you have no basis for your claims. She was told she couldn't use a private server.

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It is exactly how it works since the previous two secretaries of state prior to Clinton both admitted using private servers that means they could have used any of a number of private servers at it would be hard to track which.


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The Russian cyberattack on Clinton server was not successful, but they tried right after Trump called for the attack.

Wrong again, he server was already taken down and moved to CO. You really have no idea what you are talking about do you.

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The Russian had previously hacked the DNC before they compromised Podesta account.

You would think the DNC took their cyber security seriously after that first hack, but they didn't. They were their own worst enemy.

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Russia used the information stolen from the DNC to drive a wedge between the two leading democratic candidates splitting or discouraging the Sanders’ supporters from voting. The damaging ones had more to do with the DNC break in.

Sure, blame the Russians for everything. The only thing the Russians did was expose the lies and deceit of the DNC. That's what makes you upset, their dirty lies and cheating was exposed.

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When you read his book, you will see that Comey is one of the rare people in Washington that has character.

That's not what the DNC was saying during the election. They demanded he be fired.

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If he didn’t have character when Trump asked for loyalty he would have agreed.

Trump was making sure he wasn't going to be undermined by the deep state FBI. Which is exactly what they have been doing. How many FBI people have been fired that were involved with Comey and his lies and deceit?

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Trump believed that he could use the FBI to target his political enemies and was mad as hell when he found he could not. Just because Trump says somebody is lying does not make it so. Trump has shown beyond a shadow of doubt that he could not recognize the truth if it was 60 stories high.

It was actually the FBI who was working against Trump. They actually had a discussion about using the 25th Amendment, which is what the media has been calling it, a coup. You wonder why Trump was concerned with "loyalty"? The FBI was attempting to undermine the lawfully elected President.

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If had read the book on the DNC break in, you would know that FBI informed a low-level employee at the DNC that the Russian had staged a cyber attack on them. Because the FBI contacted low level employees it was weeks before they established contact with the right people. Of course, the first thing you do after a cyber attack is to go after the contact list. Since Podesta had not alerted to the attack when the fishing email came, he did as instructed and changed his password. The Russian were in with very little effort.

The DNC were stupid and didn't keep their security up to date, they got what they deserved. What you also fail to mention is that the DNC never let the FBI investigate the hack, they had some 3rd party group do the investigation. I bet your book didn't mention that did it?

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The FBI had already figured out that Trump was a Russian asset and used decoys to catch the Russians.

See the lies the you tell.

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There was a congressman today who stated that a foreign country is in possession of Clinton’s 30,000 emails.

Hillary and the FBI told us that no one hacked Hillary's emails...

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In fact, we know Trump loves to watch women pee on each other because of his entertainment choices in America. The Russian could have picked any sexual perversion to pin on Trump out of thousands of sexual perversions. What are the odds that the Russian would arrive at that particular perversion? If it walks like a skunk, smells like a skunk, and has a white stripe down its back, it is a skunk.

More lies and propaganda.

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Steele had been used by the FBI for years as a confidential source but once a spy is outed it endangers all of his source’s lives.

He wasn't outed, he was fired years before. You continue to prove history isn't your strong point.

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Right now, congress has mandated more sanctions against Russia and Trump has refused to put the sanctions against Russia in place.

More lies. Trump has been using sanctions against Russia for a while now.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/08/trump-administration-ups-russia-sanctions-977650

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You sound like Trump, everything is just fake news, there is no such thing as reality, everyone is out to get you.

The problem is there is a lot of fake news that gets spread by the media, they have an agenda. Your problem is that a majority of what you say isn't true, I provide the facts to prove it isn't true, but you will then change subjects or double down on the lie.

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You had no choice if you needed to send email during the day. I did not have a private cell phone.

Gmail? AOL email? Yahoo email? Hotmail? There have always been plenty of free email services that can be accessed from the web. Lazy people send private emails from their work accounts.

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Do you think all of Clinton private email should have been on a government server?

She should have used her govt email account for her job, and a private email account for her personal emails.

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Did she lose her right to use a private server when she became secretary of state?

See above. This continues to prove you know nothing about how email or computers work.

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The Republicans have been running against Hillary since her husband left office.

Well, she carpet bagged to NY to get elected in a place she had never lived before. Hillary doesn't care about people, she cares about power.

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They spent 15 years doing everything in their power to destroy her reputation.

15 years? You mean when she ran for Senate in a state she hadn't lived in before? She only moved to NY because she knew those suckers would elect her. Carpet bagger!

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No politician in history ever received so much negative publicity over such a long period of time.

Oh please, get off the Hillary pitty party. The MSM loved the woman and did everything in their power to protect her.

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If there are no requirement to pay for health insurance people will wait until they get sick to buy health insurance.

Irresponsible people maybe.

Zardoz
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2019 10:53 pm
The only people killing people at Charlottesville were the Nazis.
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Antifa did not come to Charlottesville to dictate the local politics and chant, “they shall not replace us.” There was a Coast Guard Lieutenant, a white nationalist was planning an all-white America and he planned to “kill just about everybody with his assault weapons.” That was the type of people the white nationalist really want to be.
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We are not talking about violence the Nazis attempted mass murder. Just because they only killed one that was a mistake. When you drive a car into a crowd your intent is not just murder it is mass murder.
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“Why Does the Government Pay Farmers Not to Grow Crops?”
Source: PBS News Hour
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That is exactly how it work the taxpayer money goes in one door and out the other as profit for the ungodly greedy.
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There are actually two guaranteed wage pilot programs in addition to the one in Finland, one is being paid for privately the other is government funded.
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That depends on what division of government is responsible for the cost of housing the prisoners. The county is responsible for paying the cost of housing prisoners. The county is a small division of government and the cost is a major portion of their budget. I worked for city that is a completely different division of government and much better funded.
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Ice would come up with as many excuses as they could think up. I have been there and done that. When is the last time you took illegals into custody?
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My job was to police building contractors. Many illegals are found working in the construction field. These illegals were breaking the laws that I enforced. That made them my problem. Meaning I could have them arrested on the spot. I did not inspect building, we had a building Inspector to do that. We had a Housing inspector to inspect current housing. We also had a plumbing inspector for plumbing and an electrical inspector for wiring. I didn’t inspect anything I enforced the law. My job was created under the contractor’s law. You don’t have a clue. That was my bust.
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If you can ring the whole country with people holding hands you might stop some of the illegal aliens. But planes are bringing them in by the plane load. This was just a Trump gimmick to keep the people’s minds off of all his Russian mafia friends.
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So, you do believe that the holocaust didn’t happen.
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People are rotated in and out because they could not stand to live in that environment for too long.
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I gave you a link in another post that not only listed the cities but showed pictures at high tide of the ocean in the streets.
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The city didn’t have a wall yet, but it was getting close.
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You said you don’t believe that there are different races the KKK begs to differ.
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Persecution complexes are very common in Trump voters and others with the same type of mind set. This was what Trump was able to exploit.
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By high school I was tall enough that people didn’t mess with me and that carried on into when I was a union officer. People can smell fear and they know who they can mess with and who they can’t. I tried to advise some of the people who were constantly picked on at work that their reaction was what caused them to be picked on. If they don’t get a rise out of you the game gets boring and they will look for someone else to pick on. It is the games people play and both participate to a degree.
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The Supreme Court initial rulings ruled Trump immigration was unconstitutional. Trump initially wanted to ban all Muslims from entering the United States and campaigned on that promise. The Muslims that were already in America and went home to visit were not going to be able to return to the United States. Trump was stopped by the courts.
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Control of your own body is self-evident owning a weapons of mass destruction is not.
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Social security is working and if it isn’t broken don’t try and fix it. Gamblers love to gamble and if you win it nice but if you lose and have nothing to live on the rest of your life you are in trouble. You need only look at what happened to private pensions that were either stolen or gambled away on company stock that became worthless. Privatizing social security would attract the smartest crooks in America to a feeding frenzy. When the stock brokers thought Baby Bush was going to able to privatize social security they all went on building spree building new offices it was going to be windfall profits. Every man and woman would have and account that would have to pay a management fee and commission on everything they bought. Currently no one pays a service fee or commissions on their social security but at least a $1/2 trillion of social security would go directly into the pockets of stock brokers for service fees. You don’t want to put $2.9 trillion into Bernie Madoff’s pockets.
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If I can only purchase insurance from a company approved in this state, why do I get hundreds of solicitations from all kinds of insurance companies at open enrollment? Do you not understand the problem is not competition it is the actual cost of medical care? The city self-insured meaning the 2900% was an increase in medical care costs. Any insurance company in any state could get approved in any state if they wanted to but they would not be allowed to sell junk insurance and that is what they are after.

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So says the city manager. They have tried everything in their power to lower the cost of insurance. But when you have several people that have surpassed the million-dollar life time limit you have a problem and Obamacare did away with the million-dollar life time limit. A premature baby can easily surpass the million-dollar limit in the first few months of life. It is like believing that you can buy a car $10,000 below what the dealer paid for it. You will never be able to buy insurance for $10,000 below what medical care costs. That is a pipe dream that competition will lower the cost of health insurance below the cost of medical care.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 08:27 am
@Zardoz,
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The only people killing people at Charlottesville were the Nazis.

There was one person responsible for another person being killed. It wasn't done by a group. I can provide numerous examples of Antifa violence from across the US, which shows a pattern, you've got a single event with a single death.

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Antifa did not come to Charlottesville to dictate the local politics and chant, “they shall not replace us.”

Yes they did, they didn't want a group to express their opinion, no matter how twisted that opinion was. It was the only reason they showed up, to dictate who could hold a rally.

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There was a Coast Guard Lieutenant, a white nationalist was planning an all-white America and he planned to “kill just about everybody with his assault weapons.”

Good thing the FBI caught the guy. It's good to see them do their job for once, too bad they couldn't do the same thing with the other mass shooters they knew about.

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That was the type of people the white nationalist really want to be.

Didn't you expose death to wealthy people just a few posts ago? You have no moral ground to stand on.

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We are not talking about violence the Nazis attempted mass murder. Just because they only killed one that was a mistake. When you drive a car into a crowd your intent is not just murder it is mass murder.

You mean like the Islamic Terrorists killing 86 people in Nice France?

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“Why Does the Government Pay Farmers Not to Grow Crops?”
Source: PBS News Hour

The govt pulled a scam and this discredits the reason why you stated they are "paying them". I'm not surprised by this. Did you also know they were paying them to grow corn for the bio-diesel industry?
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So the government described the program as an environmental one rather than an income maintenance scheme. As described to the public, it was compensation to farmers for retiring acreage to reduce fertilizer and pesticide runoff into the nation’s water supply.


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That is exactly how it work the taxpayer money goes in one door and out the other as profit for the ungodly greedy.

No it doesn't. You just think it works this way.

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The only way to find news stories of that time period are to go to the library and spend hundreds of hours on micro-fish terminals. I have spent hundreds of hours trying to locate one news article without success. While most stories filed today will find their way to the internet that is not true 30 years ago.

Wrong again. Here's a link to a website that archives newspapers. It seems they have articles that go back to the 1970's... When are you going to admit you don't have a clue how technology works?
https://newspaperarchive.com/us/illinois/wheeling/wheeling-herald/
How about news from Littleton CO in the early 1900's?
https://newspaperarchive.com/us/colorado/littleton/littleton-independent/

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There are actually two guaranteed wage pilot programs in addition to the one in Finland, one is being paid for privately the other is government funded.

Finland is stopping their program because it didn't work. None of these programs work as advertised. Who's running the private funded program? Fact's links proof?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/23/finland-to-end-basic-income-trial-after-two-years

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Ice would come up with as many excuses as they could think up. I have been there and done that. When is the last time you took illegals into custody?

I highly doubt you as a building inspector were involved in immigration raids and the arresting of illegal immigrants. I'm not the one who has lied and claimed to work with the police dept, when we all know you walked around with a ticket book and harassed construction sites. You had ZERO LEO powers.

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My job was to police building contractors.

Look at you claiming to have more authority then you really had. "Police building contractors". You live the feeling of that word don't you, made you feel like an important person with that ticket book you carried. Did you get your start as a hall monitor in grade school?

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If you can ring the whole country with people holding hands you might stop some of the illegal aliens. But planes are bringing them in by the plane load. This was just a Trump gimmick to keep the people’s minds off of all his Russian mafia friends.

I've already provided the proof to your lies about where the illegal immigrants come from and how they get into our country. We need a wall to protect US citizens, no one has the right to enter our country just because they want to be here. Asylum from our southern border is scam, those people aren't fleeing anything except poverty. Their countries should help them.

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So, you do believe that the holocaust didn’t happen.

This is the weakest reply you've come up with yet. When you lose the debate, you start bringing up stupid issues.

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People are rotated in and out because they could not stand to live in that environment for too long.

What are you talking about?

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I gave you a link in another post that not only listed the cities but showed pictures at high tide of the ocean in the streets.

It also mentioned flooding due to rains and lack of good run off routes...

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The city didn’t have a wall yet, but it was getting close.

Which city? You have to provide some sort of clue as to what you are talking about.

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You said you don’t believe that there are different races the KKK begs to differ.

Good for the KKK, but what does that have to do with me? The KKK would have lynched me for marrying a black woman and having mixed race kids.

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Persecution complexes are very common in Trump voters and others with the same type of mind set. This was what Trump was able to exploit.

You are suffering from transference again.

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The Supreme Court initial rulings ruled Trump immigration was unconstitutional.

The SCOTUS did no such thing, they ruled in favor of Trump and his EO. You continue to prove you don't know what you are talking about, the MSM is feeding you turds.

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Trump initially wanted to ban all Muslims from entering the United States and campaigned on that promise. The Muslims that were already in America and went home to visit were not going to be able to return to the United States. Trump was stopped by the courts.

Trump was stopped by bias leftists courts, the SCOTUS ruled in his favor and declared he did indeed have the authority to create the ban.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/26/supreme-court-upholds-president-trump-immigration-travel-ban/701110002/

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Control of your own body is self-evident owning a weapons of mass destruction is not.

So what you are saying is that you have no leg to stand on when it comes to written and unwritten rights?

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Social security is working and if it isn’t broken don’t try and fix it.

It is broke and needs to be fixed. There is going to be nothing left of SS when the baby boomers are done with it. I'm paying into a system to support them and I won't have anything.

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If I can only purchase insurance from a company approved in this state, why do I get hundreds of solicitations from all kinds of insurance companies at open enrollment?

Hundreds? Do you really get hundreds or do you get about a dozen?

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Do you not understand the problem is not competition it is the actual cost of medical care?

Wrong again. If there is no competition to drive the costs down, the costs will go up. Govt laws and mandates interfear with the market system, like limiting insurance companies that are "licensed" in your state.

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The city self-insured meaning the 2900% was an increase in medical care costs. Any insurance company in any state could get approved in any state if they wanted to but they would not be allowed to sell junk insurance and that is what they are after.

"Junk insurance" is a personal opinion and doesn't hold any real definition. It wasn't even a phrase until Obama stated with his destructive ACA. That was the excuse they used when it was discovered Obama lied about keeping your insurance plan if you liked it. Govt and MSM cover-up.








Zardoz
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 11:34 pm
@Baldimo,
You can’t believe that we have the best interest of those countries at heart while we were training death squads to kill their citizens. When we are giving foreign aid to a country with one hand, we are trying to figure out how to strip the country of its natural resources with the other.
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No, I am old enough and independent enough to do as I wish. I had observed enough older people and how they react to new technology. I can still remember the old push mowers without a motor. When lawn mowers came along with motors, they continued to use their old mowers without motors because they did not adapt to the new technology. My wife’s older sister and her husband never learned to use a computer though they might ask us to look up something occasionally. When I bought my first internet capable computer I did so because I knew if I waited any longer, I would not learn how to use it and I was 49 at the time and it was like learning a new language. You will find this out one day in the not too distant future.
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At this point I don’t either.
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The law passed on having to address someone by the correct gender in Canada and UK did not pass in America because it was unnecessary. If it was a problem the obvious solution is not to address anyone by gender and use a gender-neutral term such as “citizen.”
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At one time I had access to all the contracts involved with that development in fact I had to make copies of all the contract involved in development because several attorneys had requested them under freedom of information act. But those files are long gone as are the news stories at the time. I kept the news papers for years that had the articles in them because I argued about them on local internet sites but even those sites have been taken down. But this type of government subsidies goes on everyday somewhere in America, just call it welfare for the rich. I did find a Walmart in Chicago that got $37 million in tax payer money.
“New Walmart Subsidized With Millions of Taxpayer Dollars---and Some Residents Are Thrilled”

Source: The Bleader

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The money continues to come out of the local taxpayers’ pocket for Pullman Square for a full 30 years after construction. It called Tax increment financing and after its imposition it resulted in a $400 a year increase in property taxes on one of our properties that will be increased over that term. Just more welfare for the rich.
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The new congressman from New York does things right she listens to the citizens in her district and supports them unlike most congressman who support their biggest donors. The congressman did not to lose the place she lived but her voters did stand to lose their homes to the Amazon development.
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Do you have any idea what it costs to live in New York? It has been extremely expensive for decades, so expensive that rent control had to be imposed for even the middle class to afford a place to live. Amazon was going to be subsidized to the tune of $3 billion. Can you imagine $3 billion in taxpayer dollars to the world’s richest man? And that is just one deal.
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One day maybe the internet will have all the old news stories on it but now it is like swish cheese with huge holes in it. I often cannot locate current local news stories.
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I actually have one of the office chairs the city bought Amazon in this room. My office was in one of the former Amazon offices. If Huntington could have come up with $3 billion in welfare for the rich, we might have got Amazon’s HQ2.
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To start with the deal in New York called for a $3 billion subsidy not $3 million. What they got was to be tax free for two years.
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If you had a contractor’s license and permit, we knew the amount of the job and the amount of taxes you owed. I worked with the tax department daily. I issued cease and desist orders to businesses that were not paying their taxes. If a contractor did not pay his taxes his contractor license was put on hold and he could not buy a building permit.
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If you give one business a $3 billion head start others cannot compete. I am reading a book by a high placed Republican operative, “Everything Trump Touches Dies,” By Rick Wilson. He talks about how the Republicans complained about Obama picking winners and losers but now with Trump doing the same thing they think it is great.

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I proved exactly what I said we are subsidizing huge multi-national corporation with taxpayer dollars. The original article was written when the deal was in progress.
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That was not in the article I read in fact there was only one paragraph to the article I read. Do have any idea how many people die in America waiting for medical care? We have them die outside the emergency room after they have been escorted out of the emergency room by police. In fact, we have serial killers in hospitals killing patients.
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How could he hide evidence? He was not in possession of the blue dress. That was the only thing they found. Do you think Trump should be impeached for telling 10,000 lies?
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The day I decided to make a doctor’s appointment I had crushed my hand tearing down an engine crane when I jerked it out and I pulled the skin off. But the pain from my hand was not nearly as bad as the other pain. My wife made the appointment, but the doctor’s office called back and said that I had to make an appointment with my GP who was out of town for two weeks. When I went to the GP’s office all they could think of was to test me for a bladder infection which was negative and then they asked me if I still wanted to see a specialist? It took another two weeks to see a specialist. The insurance company was trying to save a few dollars and all it did was cost them for a Dr appointment I didn’t need. Insurance companies should never decide whether you can see a doctor or not. You really don’t think I can provide a link to the insurance company refusal of my doctor’s appointment?
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A service can only be sold for what the market can afford to pay. Insurance changed all that the doctors could charge the sky is the limit and if that wasn’t enough there were now two payers for the same service. The insurance could be charged, and patient be charged for the same service. What if there were two payers for television sets? If you had insurance on your television set when it went bad the insurance company would pay for it and then if it was like medical insurance, you would have to pay for it again. A free market depends on services being sold at a price the consumer can pay.
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I know who started and owned Blue Cross when it started in this state and doctors had a vested interest in owning the company.
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Do you not understand the cost of educating a medical student is far more than their tuition? These are state supported schools they are not private. I had to start paying for the education of medical students when I was a small child every soft drink sold in the state is taxed to provide the medical school at WVU. Do you have any idea how much money is raised with that one tax? The Republicans are thinking about increasing the soft drink tax from 5 cents to 9 cents which will bring in another $100 million. That is more than $200 million to support one medical school. Those going to medical school pay only a tiny portion of the cost of medical school education the taxpayers pay the rest.
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“Revamping Soda Tax Could Add Millions to the State Budget”
Source: WV News
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Links are the lazy man’s search
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There are books written on inflation you need to read one so you will have some understanding of the subject. It is not like a dipstick for a car where you can just insert the dipstick into the economy, and it read out the inflation number.
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The fact easily prove you wrong most women did not work in the 50s and 60s and the husband’s income provided enough income for a comfortable standard of living. Now with two people they need two or three jobs each just to keep the lights on. Tell me just how two people working instead of one improves the standard of living. My wife did not work until the conservatives gave the country to the ungodly greedy.
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“1917 War Revenue Act Passed in US”

Source: History Channel
The taxes were always raised to pay for wars until baby Bush came along and cut taxes during wars.
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Bush started the longest war in American history and that was only one of his insane wars against innocent people. Killing people that are not the enemy accomplishes nothing but making more enemies. If you can kill your enemies without starting a major war and killing innocent women and children, it is far better. We were not after a country we were after a criminal organization.

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When you invade a country, you create enemies. We had absolutely no beef with Iraq. Baby Bush and the Project for a New America Century had planned to go to war with Iraq long before 9/11. In fact, the neoconservatives tried to talk Clinton into a war with Iraq. He refused. The neoconservatives planned on invading all the middle east countries. There were, no terrorist in Iraq until after the invasion and then they came from all over the middle east to fight. If America was taken over by Russia, America would be full of terrorists overnight. This always happens when a country is invaded. We had no business in Iraq big oil was after the Iraq oil their wells had been nationalized before and Baby Bush was put in by big oil.
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I don’t know whether you have watched Elon Mush recent television appearances, but he is flying apart like a watch spring that was wound too tight. It is obvious he does not have long to live outside a mental institution.
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Why waste a perfectly good trip to Mars?
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The shuttles had exceeded their lifetime and it would have been unsafe. It was time to design the next new generation of space ships which should be assembled and space and not launched from earth. The conservatives wanted to privatize everything, and the space program was privatized with out designing the next generation.
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Hyundai was able to take advantage of all the technological development before they went into business likewise the private sector will be able to take advantage of all the technological developments in space travel that came before they went into business.
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If one of space X rockets comes down in a populated area and kills a number of people, there will be a problem especially if it can be traced to stress fractures caused from multi uses.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Sat 23 Feb, 2019 05:39 am
@Zardoz,
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You can’t believe that we have the best interest of those countries at heart while we were training death squads to kill their citizens.

Blah blah blah, death squads... subject change #2.

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When we are giving foreign aid to a country with one hand, we are trying to figure out how to strip the country of its natural resources with the other.

You lose credibility with just about every post.

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You will find this out one day in the not too distant future.

Considering my love of technology and the industry I work in, it will be a long while before I fall behind the curve. The only place I don't try to keep up is in the world of social media, facebook, twitter, instagram... I got my FB, I'm good.

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The law passed on having to address someone by the correct gender in Canada and UK did not pass in America because it was unnecessary.

It wouldn't pass here, we have the 1st Amendment. Those unfree fools are subject to speech laws.

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If it was a problem the obvious solution is not to address anyone by gender and use a gender-neutral term such as “citizen.”

Gender-neutral terms wouldn't serve anyone any good.

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“New Walmart Subsidized With Millions of Taxpayer Dollars---and Some Residents Are Thrilled”
Source: The Bleader

I read the story and I disagree with what they article is trying to indicate.

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The money continues to come out of the local taxpayers’ pocket for Pullman Square for a full 30 years after construction. It called Tax increment financing and after its imposition it resulted in a $400 a year increase in property taxes on one of our properties that will be increased over that term.

So they instituted Tax Increment Financing and your property tax on your commercial property went up? When was this enacted in your area?

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The new congressman from New York does things right she listens to the citizens in her district and supports them unlike most congressman who support their biggest donors.

Does she? Were there that many people in her district who were against Amazon? Or did she just tell them a bunch of lies to get them riled up?

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Do you have any idea what it costs to live in New York? It has been extremely expensive for decades, so expensive that rent control had to be imposed for even the middle class to afford a place to live.

You are confusing rent control and rent stabilization. They are 2 different programs and apply to different types of apartments and people.

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Amazon was going to be subsidized to the tune of $3 billion. Can you imagine $3 billion in taxpayer dollars to the world’s richest man? And that is just one deal.

You have just proven you are either not as smart as you claim, or you are purposely being misleading. You know as well as I do that $3 billion in tax money is not being given to Amazon, that's the same BS said by that idiot AOC.

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One day maybe the internet will have all the old news stories on it but now it is like swish cheese with huge holes in it. I often cannot locate current local news stories.

Did you check out the link I shared or did you ignore it in fear that I was correct again?

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I actually have one of the office chairs the city bought Amazon in this room. My office was in one of the former Amazon offices.

You keep saying the city paid for it all, but you've failed to provide any proof of this.

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If Huntington could have come up with $3 billion in welfare for the rich, we might have got Amazon’s HQ2.

If you think NY was going to give $3 billion to Amazon, then you really don't understand how this all works.

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To start with the deal in New York called for a $3 billion subsidy not $3 million. What they got was to be tax free for two years.

Regardless of dollar amount the principle is the same, they are not "tax free", they get a $3 billion tax cut for a few years. ie: Amazon owe's 10 billion in taxes, they would only pay $7 billion. No money goes from the city to Amazon.

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If you give one business a $3 billion head start others cannot compete.

No one is giving anyone a head start.

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I am reading a book by a high placed Republican operative, “Everything Trump Touches Dies,” By Rick Wilson. He talks about how the Republicans complained about Obama picking winners and losers but now with Trump doing the same thing they think it is great. .

Want to talk about a bunch of suckers, the people buying these "anti-Trump" books from people who have left the WH. They are all filled with just enough stuff to make you guys spend money on the books and make people who like Trump money.

As for the winners and losers, which companies has Trump picked to make money over others? I'm pretty sure he had nothing to do with Amazon moving to NY.

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I proved exactly what I said we are subsidizing huge multi-national corporation with taxpayer dollars. The original article was written when the deal was in progress.

No we are not.

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That was not in the article I read in fact there was only one paragraph to the article I read. Do have any idea how many people die in America waiting for medical care? We have them die outside the emergency room after they have been escorted out of the emergency room by police. In fact, we have serial killers in hospitals killing patients.

Quick, I can't prove what I'm saying, so I'm going to throw a bunch of other things together that I can't prove with a couple of maybe factual things and then claim they are all equally true.

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How could he hide evidence? He was not in possession of the blue dress. That was the only thing they found. Do you think Trump should be impeached for telling 10,000 lies?

If you think the dress was the only evidence, then you were not paying attention to what was happening, you fell for Hillary's "right-wing conspiracy" crap.

If politicians were impeached for telling lies in public, we would have no politicians.

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A service can only be sold for what the market can afford to pay.

Wrong, it's what the market thinks the product is worth. Which is worth more, raw materials or processed goods?

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Insurance changed all that the doctors could charge the sky is the limit and if that wasn’t enough there were now two payers for the same service.

Do you think a Dr who graduated from Harvard should be paid the same as a Dr who graduated from a state school? How about a computer programmer from MIT, should they be paid the same as someone that went to a community college?

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The insurance could be charged, and patient be charged for the same service.

Are you implying the Dr's are double billing for their services?

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What if there were two payers for television sets? If you had insurance on your television set when it went bad the insurance company would pay for it and then if it was like medical insurance, you would have to pay for it again.

This isn't how it works, why are your posts filled with so many lies. Double billing is illegal, it's called fraud. Who gets busted for that type of fraud? Dr's who deal with govt insurance and like to screw the taxpayer.

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A free market depends on services being sold at a price the consumer can pay.

Agreed, but you can't have a free market when you have govt regulations in the way. That isn't a free market.

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“Revamping Soda Tax Could Add Millions to the State Budget”
Source: WV News

That's interesting. See how easy that was to leave something that points to the point you were trying to make.

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Links are the lazy man’s search

You actually have to search to find the link you need to prove what you are saying.

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There are books written on inflation you need to read one so you will have some understanding of the subject. It is not like a dipstick for a car where you can just insert the dipstick into the economy, and it read out the inflation number.

I read enough about inflation to know you are wrong about what took place in the late 70's and early 80's.

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The fact easily prove you wrong most women did not work in the 50s and 60s and the husband’s income provided enough income for a comfortable standard of living. Now with two people they need two or three jobs each just to keep the lights on. Tell me just how two people working instead of one improves the standard of living. My wife did not work until the conservatives gave the country to the ungodly greedy.

I'm not sure you are proving me wrong considering I never commented on this subject.

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Bush started the longest war in American history and that was only one of his insane wars against innocent people.

Last time I checked, we were still technically at war with North Korea. In reality all wars are conducted against innocent people.

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I don’t know whether you have watched Elon Mush recent television appearances, but he is flying apart like a watch spring that was wound too tight. It is obvious he does not have long to live outside a mental institution.

Are you referring to his "pot smoking" incident on youtube? Elon is going to be just fine, most people like him are not normal people. Being a genius has that effect on people. I'm sure if you had seen Einstein in his time, you would have said the same thing.

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Why waste a perfectly good trip to Mars?

Why? They had to test the rocket on a long voyage and they had to have a payload on board. 2 birds 1 stone.

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The shuttles had exceeded their lifetime and it would have been unsafe. It was time to design the next new generation of space ships which should be assembled and space and not launched from earth.

We never should have had a shuttle program in the first place, Nixon was a fool for such limited thinking.

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The conservatives wanted to privatize everything, and the space program was privatized with out designing the next generation.

Who was President when we shut down the shuttle program? You can't keep shifting blame from one group to the other just to fit your propaganda.

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Hyundai was able to take advantage of all the technological development before they went into business likewise the private sector will be able to take advantage of all the technological developments in space travel that came before they went into business.

You mean like the US was able to take advantage of Wernher von Braun after the war?

Zardoz
 
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Reply Sat 23 Feb, 2019 11:33 pm
@Baldimo,
The left deals in fact the right in propaganda. What passes for news on the right is Sean Hannity who served as Trump’s unofficial campaign manager.
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There is a world of difference between beliefs and facts. Beliefs are not founded on facts that is what requires “belief.”
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One is that the temperature of the earth is going up. Two the polar ice caps are melting. The polar ice caps reflect much of the sun energy into space once they melt the earth will warm much more rapidly. The polar ice caps are also responsible for the oceans currents and the current is necessary for much of our climate. We are sitting on the edge of the world’s biggest manmade catastrophes. The world atmosphere is like a well-balanced spinning top. Knock it off balance and there will be hell to pay.
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That depends on who reads the core samples and those samples would only define the climate at one small corner of the earth. The Climate has recorded 3 of the hottest years on record in the last four years. The oil, gas and coal corporations are the ones who are paying for the propaganda against climate change. If 100s of millions of tons of pollution had no effect on the climate, why would 97% of the scientist oppose polluting the atmosphere?
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The fires in California were the worst in recorded history and they had broken a record that was only set a year before that. The fires come and then fires destruction causes massive mud slides after the rains because there is no vegetation left to hold the soil. If the fires don’t get your house the mud slide will.
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Trump is so wrapped up in Russians that it took three books just to detail all the connections. Today we found out that Manafort was working for the Russians at the same time he was Trump’s campaign manager. At the same time Manafort changed the Republican platform at the Republican convention to benefit the Russians.
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The majority controls the committee and the minority are simply spectators. They have no power to do anything the majority rules. The House committee did the same thing when the Republicans had the majority. The Republican chairman of the House committee reported directly to Trump and was voted out of office.
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The speed limit is 70 mph on the interstate most people drive closer to 80 mph. They are breaking the law every time they go even 1 mph over. Deleting e-mails is like that everybody is doing it, but they only make an issue of it for a very few. Every time you wrote a draft and deleted it you would be arrested. It is against the law for Trump to call for the Russians to invade America by cyber space also.
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The FBI was ready and waiting when Trump called for the Russians to recover Clinton’s emails. There is a congressman (woman) who claims that a foreign power has the emails. She may be just another Trump lying through her teeth. If a foreign power has them, we don’t.
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If the Russians had the emails then Wikileaks would have posted them. The Russian could have penetrated a government server and have in the past.
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You are not supposed to drive 80 mph in a 70-mph zone it is against the law and we all know nobody ever broke the law but Hillary. Have you ever ignored the speed limit? If you are caught doing that here, you are subject to 30 days in jail and a $500 fine for just one mph over. The FBI said they found e-mails they never said they found any classified emails on Huma’s computer.
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Let’s say you weigh 685 lb. would you say you had an excess of food? Or just enough.
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Do you not understand that you are complaining about those making over $200,000 paying 58% percent of the taxes without knowing what percentage of the income they get. All of the greatest fortunes are in that group from Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, the Wall Mart heirs, billionaire hedge fund managers. That group has more than 58% of the income and should pay more than 58% of the income tax. The ungodly greedy have most of the income.
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When someone gets income, it should be taxable no matter where it came from. To believe it is free money falling from heaven is foolish.
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The numbers are exactly as they are printed in the article. They are not backwards. I think you are confused, you are thinking of GNP which does not measure total economic output.
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The only people that are counted as unemployed are actively looking for work. To get a percentage of unemployed you divide those looking for work by those who are employed. Obama had absolutely nothing to do with counting the unemployed or the employed. He had far more important things to do. If the actual unemployed people were counted today Trump’s real number would be over 10% unemployed.
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We have had troops spread all of the world for the last 70 years and we paid the national debt down most of those years. Trump should be paying down instead adding a trillion dollars a year two it.
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The democrats were financially responsible and paid the National Debt the republicans gave round after round of huge tax cuts to the ungodly greedy and ran the country trillions of dollars in debt.
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If you are paying off the national debt you had to have a surplus. If you are running the national debt through the stratosphere you have a deficit.
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History will find that Reagan was nothing but a movie actor who thought he was being cast in a movie playing president. Reagan will go down as the worst president in the history of the United States because he presided over the turning point where he tripled the national debt instead of paying it down. This set America on a course to destruction.
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I lived that history and have a carefully documented library of every moment. In addition, I wrote about it every day, on the internet.
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Trump no longer has a majority in the house because he accomplished nothing except a huge tax giveaway to the ungodly greedy in his first two years in office. If someone votes with the opposing party, the Republican party will run someone against them in the primary and see they are voted out of office.
There is no motive like self-interest.
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Baby Bush got his three rounds of tax cuts for the ungodly greedy through and he got his war against an innocent people. What got stopped was his theft of social security. He could not pull off his $2.9 trillion con and con the American people out of social security nobody believed that the $2.9 trillion social security trust fund was just “worthless paper” as Trump insisted.
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Remember the next time you are on the highway that it is against the law to speed otherwise you would be breaking the law just like Hillary.
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Nobody was bothered at all by the previous two secretaries of state using private email servers this was nothing but a political hit job on Hillary. I am surprised she was not prosecuted for speeding after all it was against the law.
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I can guarantee that there was a decoy in place for the Russians and Trump to find.
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This like saying it was the rape victim’s fault because her ankles were showing. It is always the criminal’s fault and in this case the Russians and Trump’s fault. No matter how lax the DNC’s security it was the Russians fault. If you had a store downtown and there was a plate glass window to say it was your fault because the window made it easy to break in is foolish.
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When the Russian break into the RNC and used the information to discourage part of the party from voting it would be the worst crime possible. But don’t worry I am sure the Russians have their very own account at the RNC.
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That is how you can tell when someone is honest. If both sides are dissatisfied, then it is likely they have encountered a rare human being one who is honest and did not bow to politics on either side.
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People are fired all the time for good reason but in government they are fired because they refuse to do what corrupt politicians tell them to do. This is what happened here Trump is the most corrupt politician to ever be president. Trump thought the justice department was his tool to prosecute his political enemies when he found out it didn’t work that way he was upset. The deep state is nothing but someone’s imagination not even worthy of a Tom Clancy novel.
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Even a large group of psychiatrists stated that Trump is psychologically unstable and not fit to be president. That is exactly why we have a 25th amendment and it is very appropriate that he be removed from office. Whether Trump is impeached or removed from office using the 25th amendment President pussy grabber has got to go. The only people that demand loyalty are mob bosses. You think the second amendment should be enforced but you don’t think the 25th amendment should.
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No matter what happened it is only the Russians fault.
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Any president that calls for the Russian to conduct a cyberattack on his opponent is a Russian asset. Anyone that witnessed that speech would have absolutely no doubt Trump is working for the Russians.
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I did not recognize the congresswoman’s name and she no doubt is a Republican and Trump has made lying the new normal in Washington. It is likely she made it up on the spot for attention after all she is a Republican.
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Sorry but you always believe lies and insist the truth is a lie. Trump loves attention and there will always be somebody reporting about his whereabouts.
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Steele was not an employee of the FBI and could never be fired. He was a source and you can’t fire a source you might no longer use him after he was outed but you can never fire anyone who is not your employee. Steele was working with the FBI while the dossier was being verified and supplied more detailed information to the FBI.
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Trump campaigned on removing the sanctions from Russia. When congress passed even more sanctions on Russia Trump made it clear he would veto any sanctions placed on Russia and congress passed them with a veto proof majority with only two negative votes. The last round of sanctions was for Russia’s killing of two former spies in England. Trump has refused to put them in place. The only Reason Trump put any sanctions on Russia is that congress forced him to. Trump would remove all sanctions against Russia tomorrow if he thought Congress would not keep him from doing it. Politico is much worse than the People’s daily in Red China. They use the Trump formula, lie, lie and lie some more. You will always find somebody that believes your lies.

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If you watch several sources, you have no trouble telling the lies from the truth.
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But those sources have to be accessed through a computer at work if you are working.
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That is why she needed a private server for her private emails.
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If she was using both types of servers there would always be those who would insist that some of her government emails were on her private server and then they would want access to all her private emails.
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The United States is a big place and we are free to move to any state for any reason.
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We have a Republican Attorney General that moved from Maryland because he could not get elected in Maryland. People move all the time and they often run for political office.
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No political candidate in history was ever targeted for 15 years and the funny thing is even after her political career is over, she is still being attacked.
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Most people will not pay for health insurance now most is supplied by their employer. You have a choice between paying $900,000 for insurance or waiting until you need open heart and paying $1,000. What is a person to do?
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Sun 24 Feb, 2019 10:05 pm
@Baldimo,
That was just one Nazi driving the car, but you can bet others egged him on and you know there were others armed to kill 30 to 40 people each. You can’t provide one instance where Antifa drove a car into a crowd of people. Trump made it possible for these people to crawl out from under the rocks they have been hiding under for the last 30 years.
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Groups founded on hate have only one reason to exist, to spread hate as far as possible. After the Nazis were responsible for 80 million deaths in WWII, I did not think anybody would defend that cancer.
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He got caught because he was using his work computer to find the addresses of his victims. Most mass murders are not particular about who they kill. This guy’s search history tipped people off. If he had just decided to go to a grade school and kill as many first graders as possible no one would have had an idea.
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I am just telling you what history says will happen. At no point did I say I was going to participate. The revolution in America is still a few decades off, the ungodly greedy will continue to steal in $2 trillion chunks. That is as inevitable as the sun coming up tomorrow. The ungodly greedy can’t overcome their greed even if they had all the wealth they would want more.
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Terrorists and Nazis have exactly the same mind set they believe killing is the way to achieve their political goals. But the Nazis have an advantage, President pussy grabber thinks they are “very fine people.”
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One of the primary concepts of socialism is a central planner that controls supply and paying farmers not to grow crops on their land accomplishes that goal. They can do a lot of things under the farm program including buying farmers out.
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When you give Wal Mart $37 million that is going in one door and out the other as profit. It was a taxpayer gift of $37 million to some of richest people in the world.
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Just because they have archives for a few papers does not mean they have them for all newspapers we are about 20 years behind here. They probably don’t have the micro fish done for the last 5 years.
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They did not give many details of the guaranteed wage programs. I suspect if the locations became public that it would set off a major migration.

“California City Fights Poverty with Guaranteed Income”
Source: Reuters

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I was never a Building Inspector it takes 10 years-experience in the building field to qualify to be a building Inspector. I was a Compliance Inspector at least that is what it said on the badge. My job had one objective enforce the law. I was in court at least two day a week and included city, state and federal courts. I was a civilian member of the Huntington Police Department. My retirement book is signed by the Chief Police with the official symbol of the police department on the cover detailing my 42 years with the city. Every police department has both civilian and sworn officers. I was a civilian employee of the Police Department when I retired. I wrote arrest citations and frequently had people arrested under my authority.
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My job was created under the Contractor’s law, but I was also expected to enforce many other city laws which I did. I can see that you have never had much authority it is a responsibility that end up making enemies. It is easy to be everybody friend, but it is much harder to make a stand. No, I was not a hall monitor but Reagan had ruined my standard of living and I had a hungry race car to feed.
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There countries can’t help them because all the wealth of those banana republics are in the hands of a few ungodly greedy. That means it is impossible to live in those countries. The US military put most of the corrupt dictators in power. You want to leave out the biggest fraction of the illegals and claim your equation is valid. That is like saying 2 + ? = 2.
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That is what you do with history. You think it is written in disappearing ink and you can just rewrite it.
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Antarctica and other harsh environments, people don’t live there year-round they are rotated.
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It was caused by the high tides and the highest tides are far worse. It means some of the cities in America are now below high tide.
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A small town in Texas who don’t want any part of Trump’s wall. McAllen Texas
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There is a time in the not too distant past in many states that you would have been arrested for interracial marriage. In the last century the KKK would have paid you a visit and burned your house down if you were lucky you would not be in it. These are not nice people despite what Trump says.
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I was on the other end of that equation I often served as a prosecutor in my cases.
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Trump’s initial Muslim ban was overturned by the courts on more than one occasion. What finally reached the supreme court had been drastically modified from the original.
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The supreme court decision stated Abortion is legal in the United States that is all the writing you need.
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Of all the government programs only one has a $2.93 trillion trust fund and a guaranteed income for life. Contrast that with the Federal Government $21 trillion deficit which do you think will go out of business first? That is a Republican lie and you know it. That is the conman song to steal the money. Let take your social security money and bet it on a roulette wheel you have 7 black. Sorry you lose and I do mean lose but don’t worry someone won. It is against all common sense to believe that something with continual income can go broke. That is literally impossible, but Wall Street is full of Bernie Madoff types who can’t wait to get their hands on your money. There is absolutely nothing broken about a government program that has a surplus of $2.93 trillion in a program that was designed as a pay as you go program.
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There are several in the mail each day we have way too many health insurance companies. Any health insurance company can do business in any state as long as they don’t sell junk insurance. There is no problem with car insurance companies or fire insurance companies doing business in every state. Why just health insurance companies? Junk health insurance.
If you are selling televisions the cost might go down, but health insurance is not a product. Health insurance companies are just a middle man that pay health insurance bills. They don’t produce a product they just write checks. If health Care goes up 2900% than health insurance has to keep pace. The competition has nothing at all to do with the actual cost of health care.
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Junk insurance is real and when someone has junk insurance and can’t pay that extra $100,000 that cost is shifted to others who have real insurance. Junk health insurance is just another way to freeload. You had to have a real insurance plan to keep it. Pretend health insurance plans don’t count.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2019 09:37 am
@Zardoz,
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The left deals in fact the right in propaganda.

Let me know when you get tired of being wrong. The left deals in emotion and propaganda and when that doesn't work they move to guilt.

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What passes for news on the right is Sean Hannity who served as Trump’s unofficial campaign manager.

Sean Hannity isn't a journalist, he's a commentator, just like the people who are on during his time frame on the other channels.

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One is that the temperature of the earth is going up.

We don't live in a static system, never have.

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Two the polar ice caps are melting.

See this is where facts and propaganda come into play. NASA has been reporting record ice caps at both polls. We were told 20 years ago the Artic would be clear of ice by now... it's not even close to happening.

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That depends on who reads the core samples and those samples would only define the climate at one small corner of the earth.

I can see you have a limited understanding of what they do with core samples.

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The Climate has recorded 3 of the hottest years on record in the last four years.

Really? They say that every year but fail to provide the evidence from non-city weather stations.

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The oil, gas and coal corporations are the ones who are paying for the propaganda against climate change. If 100s of millions of tons of pollution had no effect on the climate, why would 97% of the scientist oppose polluting the atmosphere?

That 97% number is a myth and propaganda, it has no basis in reality.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#525f10e53f9f

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Trump is so wrapped up in Russians that it took three books just to detail all the connections.

Those books are jokes.

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Today we found out that Manafort was working for the Russians at the same time he was Trump’s campaign manager.

We knew that, one of the things he was busted for was not registering as a foreign agent.

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The majority controls the committee and the minority are simply spectators. They have no power to do anything the majority rules.

I see the excuses have started.

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The speed limit is 70 mph on the interstate most people drive closer to 80 mph. They are breaking the law every time they go even 1 mph over. Deleting e-mails is like that everybody is doing it, but they only make an issue of it for a very few.

There is no comparison to speeding laws and National Security. The very fact you tried to link them, continues to show you don't have the slightest idea about E-Security.

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Every time you wrote a draft and deleted it you would be arrested.

Wrong again, that's not how it works. Why do you continue to prove you know nothing about National Security and email?

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The FBI was ready and waiting when Trump called for the Russians to recover Clinton’s emails. There is a congressman (woman) who claims that a foreign power has the emails. She may be just another Trump lying through her teeth. If a foreign power has them, we don’t.

Do you recall earlier in the post, you talked about facts over propaganda?
Hillary deleted her emails from the private server and never turned it over to the FBI like she was suppose to.

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If the Russians had the emails then Wikileaks would have posted them. The Russian could have penetrated a government server and have in the past.

You seem to be all over the place on this.

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Do you not understand that you are complaining about those making over $200,000 paying 58% percent of the taxes without knowing what percentage of the income they get.

Only socialists care about such things, our economy isn't measured that way.

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All of the greatest fortunes are in that group from Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, the Wall Mart heirs, billionaire hedge fund managers. That group has more than 58% of the income and should pay more than 58% of the income tax.

You keep repeating yourself, it still doesn't make it true. I'm not sure where you got this twisted and fake version of paying taxes.

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When someone gets income, it should be taxable no matter where it came from. To believe it is free money falling from heaven is foolish.

I disagree, if money was earned it should be taxed, money inherited shouldn't be taxed, it was already taxed several times.

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The numbers are exactly as they are printed in the article. They are not backwards.

You won't even take Obama's words for yourself. Obama claimed we would never see 2% growth.

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The only people that are counted as unemployed are actively looking for work.

Wrong, not having a job lists you as unemployed, that's why we also look at the total participation rate in the economy.

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To get a percentage of unemployed you divide those looking for work by those who are employed. Obama had absolutely nothing to do with counting the unemployed or the employed. He had far more important things to do.

Liar, Obama and the MSM lived and died by those numbers. If you even tried to caste a little doubt on what they were claiming, they would attack.

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If the actual unemployed people were counted today Trump’s real number would be over 10% unemployed.

No it wouldn't, it wouldn't even come close. Total work force participation is higher now then it was during the Obama years.

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We have had troops spread all of the world for the last 70 years and we paid the national debt down most of those years. Trump should be paying down instead adding a trillion dollars a year two it.

Trump is actually trying to bring troops home and cut back on the number of countries we are currently bombing. The DNC have turned into the war hawks under Obama.

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Nobody was bothered at all by the previous two secretaries of state using private email servers this was nothing but a political hit job on Hillary. I am surprised she was not prosecuted for speeding after all it was against the law.

Wrong again. The laws were changed after the last 2 Sec of State used private email accounts. Hillary went above and beyond and used her own private server. On top of that she failed to turn over the emails before she left office, she deleted them. Which was against Govt policy. You can't even discuss the facts of the case without lying for a Clinton.

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I can guarantee that there was a decoy in place for the Russians and Trump to find.

No you can't, Hillary had already destroyed the server, there was no "decoy".

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When the Russian break into the RNC and used the information to discourage part of the party from voting it would be the worst crime possible. But don’t worry I am sure the Russians have their very own account at the RNC.

Did you read the FBI report? I can tell you didn't because nothing you have written here is factual.

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People are fired all the time for good reason but in government they are fired because they refuse to do what corrupt politicians tell them to do.

These agents were fired because they broke the laws and rules. They were the ones doing illegal things, hence they were fired.

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This is what happened here Trump is the most corrupt politician to ever be president.

Trump is actually turning out to be the least corrupt politician in history.

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Trump thought the justice department was his tool to prosecute his political enemies when he found out it didn’t work that way he was upset. The deep state is nothing but someone’s imagination not even worthy of a Tom Clancy novel.

Sorry, but the deep state is real and is being exposed.

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Even a large group of psychiatrists stated that Trump is psychologically unstable and not fit to be president.

Liberal and leftist psychiatrists who violated their oath.

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That is exactly why we have a 25th amendment and it is very appropriate that he be removed from office. Whether Trump is impeached or removed from office using the 25th amendment President pussy grabber has got to go.

Not appropriate and a violation if used. It was a coup attempt by the deep state, the FBI has no jurisdiction to remove a sitting President with the 25th Amendment. The 25th was also written if a President becomes incapacitated due to medical issues, it has nothing to do with the FBI thinking he is "unfit". You just said you didn't think the deep state was a real thing except you back their coup attempt.

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I did not recognize the congresswoman’s name and she no doubt is a Republican and Trump has made lying the new normal in Washington. It is likely she made it up on the spot for attention after all she is a Republican.

What are you talking about?

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Steele was not an employee of the FBI and could never be fired. He was a source and you can’t fire a source you might no longer use him after he was outed but you can never fire anyone who is not your employee. Steele was working with the FBI while the dossier was being verified and supplied more detailed information to the FBI.

Wrong again. He was not working for the FBI, he was working for the Hillary Campaign, after all that's what the dossier was, opposition research paid for by Hillary and the DNC.

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If you watch several sources, you have no trouble telling the lies from the truth.

DNC back sources of news all tell the same story, even when they get it horribly wrong.

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But those sources have to be accessed through a computer at work if you are working.

There is a hard separation between classified and non-classified networks. The computers are listed with either a green or red sticker indicating which network they are attached to.

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That is why she needed a private server for her private emails.

She used the private server for all her work emails as well, she never used the email account that was created for her on the Sec of State servers. That was a violation of the law.

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If she was using both types of servers there would always be those who would insist that some of her government emails were on her private server and then they would want access to all her private emails.

She never used her Sec of State email address. She violated the rules by not using the govt provided email account for govt related emails. They didn't find a single email to or from her on her Sec of State email account, you know the official record of her work in the dept.

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The United States is a big place and we are free to move to any state for any reason.

She's still a carpet bagger. She only moved there because she knew those dumb liberals would elect her, even though she didn't care about them or their concerns, they were stepping stones to the Presidents chair.

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No political candidate in history was ever targeted for 15 years and the funny thing is even after her political career is over, she is still being attacked.

No candidate has been as crooked and untrustworthy as she is either. Her career isn't over, she is considering running for President in 2020. I can guarantee you the DNC won't be kind to her this time around.








hightor
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2019 12:55 pm
@Baldimo,
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NASA has been reporting record ice caps at both polls.

Record shrinkage. It's not "propaganda".
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The Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass. Data from NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show Greenland lost an average of 281 billion tons of ice per year between 1993 and 2016, while Antarctica lost about 119 billion tons during the same time period. The rate of Antarctica ice mass loss has tripled in the last decade.

jpl.nasa

We were told 20 years ago the Artic would be clear of ice by now... it's not even close to happening.[/quote]
Ever consider the discovery of new evidence as an explanation for changes in long-range predictions?
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2019 01:12 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Record shrinkage. It's not "propaganda".
It is if the data is deliberately biased.

hightor wrote:
Ever consider the discovery of new evidence as an explanation for changes in long-range predictions?
Let me know when they start ensuring that their data is unbiased. I'll start paying attention to what they say.

In the meantime if you want to eliminate carbon emissions build more nuclear reactors. Maybe switch over to those graphite-moderated helium-cooled high-temperature reactors (the prism variants) for enhanced safety. They are meltdown-proof.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Mon 25 Feb, 2019 10:18 pm
@Baldimo,
The United States did train death squads for south American dictators. We established a military base in south America explicitly for the purpose of training death squads. These death squads were used to make sure the ungodly greedy could continue to rip off the country’s wealth. Now we are reaping what we sewed as we helped destroy their country.
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You know so very little of what goes on in the world. There is always a carrot and the stick.
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Looking into the future you imagine is one thing, but we all know hind sight is 20/20.
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If the republicans remain in control long enough, they will kill the first amendment. Trump thinks the press has one reason to exist and that is to be his personal PR department. Trump is already looking at pulling the license from any news outlet that criticizes him.
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They would put an end to the argument nobody could feel slighted when addressed as citizen Smith.
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The government has ruined the retail sector with subsidies. Walmart and Amazon receive 100s of million of dollars in subsidies each year. While others that are not heavily subsidized go out of business. You can’t compete with a business that gets $3 billion subsidy at just one location.
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There are now several tax increment financing projects in WV but the downtown TIF was the first and encompasses all of the downtown commercial property. That was a 100-year 0ld rental property that had property taxes raised by $400 a year. It only lacked 10 blocks of being in the TIF district and then the property tax would not have been raised.
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There was an absolute ground swell of opposition for Amazon’s New York HQ. Just as with the TIF district when $3 billion in taxes is cut from one it has to be added to everyone else’s taxes. There is no such thing as a free lunch somebody has to pay. That opposition did not begin with the congresswoman she just road the tidal wave of opposition.
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New York had to control rents because they were out of control. Trump is known to buy up rent controlled properties and run the tenets off so he can raise the rent.
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While the tax money is not given up front 2 years with no taxes amounts to the same thing. Tax right offs, sight development, free buildings and property, free computers and office equipment and all kinds of goodies we can’t even imagine. Here a solution let’s pretend this is capitalism and everybody pay their own way and the government stay out of it altogether.
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I checked the links out, but they did not go to any local paper.
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You try so hard to avoid the truth. I do not have access to the contracts with Amazon. Amazon is the business that government subsidies built. That was Bezos best talent was fleecing government. If Bezos took New York for $3 billion what do you think they could do to a small city in WV?
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Amazon was going to get exactly that $3 billion it might not all be in cash, but it will be in goods and services. If I give you a $40,000 car it is the same as giving you $40,000. There is much more to deal than just $3 billion off of their taxes. If you had to pay the full $10 billion and get $3 billion off is just the same as writing a check for that amount.
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There is no difference between giving Bezos a check for $3 billion or cutting his taxes by $3 billion the result for taxpayers is the same. Why not give everyone that wants to start a business $3 billion?
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Rick Wilson was never in the Whitehouse he opposed Trump from the primaries. He was one of the never Trump people from the beginning.
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I read about the huge subsidies for Mercedes plant long before the dirt was even turned. If I give you $300 million in goods, services and tax breaks that is not a subsidy and there something else it isn’t it isn’t capitalism.
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It gave the exact numbers and we know far more people go out of America looking for health care than Canadians coming here.
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The impeachment was for lying about his sex life period. I still have the news papers about the impeachment.
Trump is about to be the first of course there are about 400 other reasons also.
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If you produce a product n
ow one can afford to buy no one will buy it. When a supply and demand curve is established for a product there will be a point where price wipes out demand.
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Again, this will come down to a supply and demand curve. If there is no health insurance and the Harvard doctor price is higher than the public is willing to pay, he will lower his price or have no patients. The market decides in the end.
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There are now cases where there are three payers for medical services in some cases. Medicare pays the doctor, then a medical insurance pays the doctor and then the patient pays the doctor. What do you think happens when there are three payers? This is not capitalism.
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Double billing? We are talking about triple billing which is done every day all day long. Nothing illegal about it. This encourages higher prices.
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If you have more than one person paying for a service, the law of supply and demand will not work.
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The problem now is that the vast majority cannot pay for the high price of medical services.
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Searches provide many other leads.
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You may know when inflation took place, but you need to know how inflation is calculated and realize that true inflation is far higher then what is reported and that is being used to rob the middle class.
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What that shows is that true inflation is far higher than reported. In the 50s and 60s a single bread winner could provide a comfortable standard of living.
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The Korean war has not been a shooting war in nearly 70 years.
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There was much more than pot smoking. He claimed he was going to privatize the company sending the stock into a tail spin. In interviews it was vey evident he was close to nervous breakdown. I have seen Einstein interviewed before and he would appear extremely sane compared to Musk.
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Musk should have been able to put the payload on the surface.
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You are always going to have to have shuttle service into outer space long after we develop interplanetary spacecraft.
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The shuttle program shut itself down the shuttles were no longer safe. The development and planning for the next generation would have had to started years before Obama took office. It would take at least ten years in planning and development.

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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 26 Feb, 2019 08:20 am
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Trump is actually turning out to be the least corrupt politician in history.

He's only been a "politician" for a few years so he'd really have had to do some extensive money-grubbing to surpass the level of corruption often exhibited by career politicians. But don't worry, while not the most corrupt politician in history he has a good chance of being exposed as the most corrupt president ever — he just committed his offenses as a private citizen.
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