You have absolutely no idea how extensive the Russian military involvement was in the last election.
There is another way to use a third party in an election. You can use a third party to pull votes away from one party, so the other party can win the election.
We all known that General Flynn attended the celebration of RT, the Russian propaganda network, anniversary in 2015. General Flynn was of course a paid speaker and seated at Putin table. General Flynn later became a key person in the Trump campaign and a main speaker at the Republican convention, but the Republican party was not the only American political party at the RT celebration the Green party was also there. Jill Stein the Green Party candidate was photographed at the same table with Putin and General Flynn. She is being investigated by a Congressional committee she is required to turn over certain documents.
What we do know is that the Green Party pulled votes from Clinton and in the key states where Trump got the electoral votes the green party pulled enough votes away from Clinton to give Trump narrow victories.
The third party can decide an election Ralph Nader hurt the democratic party for years and cost Al Gore the presidential election.
The Russian Green Party is a political party that was active in Russia in 2005-2006 is it a coincidence that that name was chosen?
A good book that should be required reading for every American is “Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin’s War on America and the Election of Donald Trump” by Michael Isiko and David Corn
Baldimo this book throws light on how extensive the NRA is involved with helping the Russian take control of America.
School shootings are only one subset of mass murders. Mass shootings are only mass shootings because the shooter is a poor shot.
When it comes to mass shootings it is the thought that counts. It would be extremely hard to pick between the two, both are a problem one is simply just an unsuccessful version of the other. I don’t know of one mass murder that was a career criminal.
“Of the 154 mass shootings recorded in the US in 2018 through June 28th none of them were perpetuated by black men, undocumented immigrants, or women.”
Source: “Fact Check: Were None of the 154 Mass Shootings in 2018 Committed….”
Conclusion
How a mass shooting is defined has a significant bearing on the statistics we often see on television and read about in the news. Too often, those nuanced distinctions and varying methodologies are not made clear.
The Occupy Democrats meme, like much social media commentary on gun violence, does not serve the public well in presenting a full and accurate picture of the facts. The source it relied upon for the figure of 154 mass shootings, the Gun Violence Archive, includes 102 incidents in which the demographic profiles of the suspects are uncertain, so in most cases we can’t glean anything definitive about the race, gender or immigration status of mass shooting perpetrators. Nonetheless, in those cases where suspects were identified, two-thirds of them were black men, a fact that significantly undermines the credibility of the meme.
When we widen the definition to include shooters themselves as victims (as the Mass Shooting Tracker does), we observe a pattern of murder-suicides and family annihilations not represented in other sources — one which includes five female suspects (and little doubt among investigators about their culpability). And once again, black men represented a majority (58) of the 97 named suspects in the cases listed by the Mass Shooting Tracker. These two facts also significantly undermine the credibility of the Occupy Democrats meme.
When we consulted the Mother Jones database, a source that strips away non-fatal, non-public, and gang-related mass shootings, we are left with only six incidents between 1 January and 28 June 2018. In five of those, the suspect was a white man, and in the remaining case the suspect was an Asian-American man. The absence of black, immigrant and female perpetrators from this list speaks in favor of the meme, but the total number of incidents (six) means it has little relevance to the 154 mass shootings mentioned by Occupy Democrats.
Why do you think that it would be the first and last crime for a school shooter but not for other mass murderers?
The mass murderers at the Post Office were done by people who came to work everyday and then one day they bought their AR-15 to work and killed as many people as possible. There were so many mass murders at post offices a word was coined going “postal.” Mass murders are not career criminals.
Mass murders are not career criminals.
At Least 58 People Shot In Chicago This Weekend; 6 Dead, 52 Wounded
You make a good point that in case of school shooters they don’t usually purchase their own gun. They usually take the guns from their parents or other relatives. That is no doubt because school shooters are so young and don’t have $500 -$2,000 needed to purchase a good AR-15.
In the case of the Parkland shooter he had purchased a cheap knock off that jammed and no doubt kept the body count down. Even if we could identify those who were going to be school shooters and ban them from buying a gun for life the fact is that the assault weapons would still be available to them. The only solution is to ban assault weapons.
Every journey starts with a first step. You will never solve a complex problem all at once. You need to break the problem down into solvable portions.
We have a criminal justice system to deal with criminals but as noted earlier mass murders are not criminals until after the act.
Another mass murder happened today in Jacksonville, FL the details are still sketchy. It took place in a pizza parlor.
The search begins for an excuse as to why he killed and wounded the victims. Was it a fight over video game he lost? Had he lost his job? Maybe he had a fight with his wife? Why do we look so hard for excuses?
Until we can accept the fact that mass murders kill people because they want to we can all make excuses for what we want to do but, in the end, we do things because we want to do them.
So why do they try so hard to come up with an excuse? To cover for the guns. If we can accept an excuse, then that lets the guns off the hook.
We will never be able to stop someone that is determined to kill people, but we can make it harder for them to kill large numbers of people by banning assault weapons. We can’t stop those that are determined to kill people so the only thing we can do something about is assault weapon.
Just banning gun sales won’t solve the problem there are still 300 million guns already on the streets. An assault weapon ban will require that those assault weapons on the streets to be turned in. The law would need to be really severe for it to work. A law would have to imprison anyone found in possession of assault weapon for 20 years to be effective.
An AR-15 would be a major purchase for most teenagers without a job. Teenagers go through money rapidly and that amount would be hard for them to save.
But why bother to buy an AR-15 when there is already one in the house?
I would agree with you that the age should be moved to 21 that would be a step in the right direction. Some retailers have already made that a policy.
Neurologists tell us the human brain does not mature until the age of 25 before that people are much more likely to be impulsive. The biggest purchase I made when I was in high school was a car for $25. I last saw the car in the 80s on used car lot for sale for a $1,000.
I don’t know if a word has been coined for someone who has a fear of their guns be taken away maybe gunapobia so we would know what you were suffering from.
We have already had an assault weapon ban and we still have 300 million guns on the streets.
Your argument that all guns would be taken fails when the facts are examined. Taking the weapons that have only one designed purpose, mass murder, is another matter.
What good would your AR-15 do against a tank or a fighter plane? If it were 200 years ago citizens with rifles might make a difference up against a modern well-equipped army there would not stand a chance.
You are too late the Russians have already taken control of America without firing a shot just as they bragged they would do. The Russian military is waging a full-scale cyber attach on the United States, what good would your AR-15 do?
The media has been very clear about gun control.
Did you ever wonder what the NRA (gun manufactures association) is getting out of helping the Russians?
Russia has now formed its own version of the NRA and has promised to open up Russia to gun sales. The Russian spy that was working with the NRA is now locked up.
The NRA would sell their mothers if they could sell a few million more guns to Russians and they would sell America for less.
Let's talk about gun control. Banning or restricting firearms is the most white privileged idea ever. Rich liberals scoffing at the notion that a person might need to defend their own life is a tower so ivory you can't look at it in direct sunlight. If's the personal safety equivalent of saying "just have the maid do it"
Only two states prevented teenagers from buying AR-15s prior to the FL shooting, Hawaii and Illinois. Florida changed the law after 17 people were killed. In most states teenagers can buy a gun capable of killing 50 people, but they can’t legally buy a beer for another three years.
No, I don’t propose a Minority Report solution we would have to prefect telepathy first. The solution is to take the weapons designed for committing mass murder off the streets.
Throughout history the ungodly greedy always paid for their crimes and AR-15s were never needed.
The initial report listed 4 dead and 11 wounded. It ended up with three dead the shooter gets credit for himself. Though it missed being a mass murder by one it does qualify as a mass shooting it is just not as easy to kill people with a hand gun as an AR-15. If he had an AR-15 he would have killed many more.
Guns are the tools that make murder possible. If I want to pull a motor out of a car I need a tool to lift the motor out of the car. I can’t lift it out by hand. The gun is just as necessary for mass murder as the engine crane is for pulling the motor. If we wanted to prevent people from pulling motors out of cars outlawing engine cranes would help solve the problem.
Do you think that the reason the shooter killed the others was that he lost the video game? The shooter would have had to known that he was going to lose the game two weeks ago when he bought the two guns.
They are always looking for an excuse, so they don’t have deal with the guns.
The fact is there is a minority of the population who just want to kill people and they will when they get the chance and the right tools.
Writing in 2015, Malcolm Gladwell wrote what I think is still the best explanation for modern American mass shootings, and it’s easily the least comforting. At the risk of oversimplifying a complex argument, essentially he argues that each mass shooting lowers the threshold for the next. He argues, we are in the midst of a slow-motion “riot” of mass shootings, with the Columbine shooting in many ways the key triggering event. Relying on the work of Stanford sociologist Mark Granovetter, Gladwell notes that it’s a mistake to look at each incident independently:
But Granovetter thought it was a mistake to focus on the decision-making processes of each rioter in isolation. In his view, a riot was not a collection of individuals, each of whom arrived independently at the decision to break windows. A riot was a social process, in which people did things in reaction to and in combination with those around them. Social processes are driven by our thresholds—which he defined as the number of people who need to be doing some activity before we agree to join them. In the elegant theoretical model Granovetter proposed, riots were started by people with a threshold of zero—instigators willing to throw a rock through a window at the slightest provocation. Then comes the person who will throw a rock if someone else goes first. He has a threshold of one. Next in is the person with the threshold of two. His qualms are overcome when he sees the instigator and the instigator’s accomplice. Next to him is someone with a threshold of three, who would never break windows and loot stores unless there were three people right in front of him who were already doing that—and so on up to the hundredth person, a righteous upstanding citizen who nonetheless could set his beliefs aside and grab a camera from the broken window of the electronics store if everyonearound him was grabbing cameras from the electronics store.
Gladwell then argues that Columbine changed the thresholds. The first seven of the “major” modern school-shooting incidents were “disconnected and idiosyncratic.”
Then came Columbine. The sociologist Ralph Larkin argues that Harris and Klebold laid down the “cultural script” for the next generation of shooters. They had a Web site. They made home movies starring themselves as hit men. They wrote lengthy manifestos. They recorded their “basement tapes.” Their motivations were spelled out with grandiose specificity: Harris said he wanted to “kick-start a revolution.” Larkin looked at the twelve major school shootings in the United States in the eight years after Columbine, and he found that in eight of those subsequent cases the shooters made explicit reference to Harris and Klebold. Of the eleven school shootings outside the United States between 1999 and 2007, Larkin says six were plainly versions of Columbine; of the eleven cases of thwarted shootings in the same period, Larkin says all were Columbine-inspired.
Occam’s razor states that if there are two explanations the simplest one is usually correct. The simplest explanation is people kill people because that is what they want to do.
If we want thousands of people killed each year flooding the streets with guns is the best way to accomplish it.
At the age of 18 teenagers can buy their very own AR-15 in 47 states. If the NRA had its way children could buy their very own AR-15 when they reached four or as soon as they could lift it.
The NRA was laundering money for the Russian, so Russian money helped Trump get elected.
The Russian spy was working with the Trump campaign. When Trump would hold a rally, he would let the audience ask questions. This of course looks spontaneous, but it is not. Trump knew who was going to pick and low and behold it was the Russian spy that was working with the NRA. When she asked Trump about how he would handle relations with Russia Trump had a very detailed answer ready. His other answers were not nearly as detailed in fact they had no details.
The NRA is in the process of selling America out and you would know that if you read your own source.
The NRA is the gun manufacturers association and they have one driving purpose and that is to sell as much death as possible and convince people that death is good for them.
Tell me why would the NRA be laundering money for the Russians? The NRA is now in the business of protecting Russian civil rights there is billions to be made getting Russia to legalize guns.
Planned Parenthood does not kill anything under the law you must first be born to be killed.
Killing is illegal under the law how come nobody has ever been arrested?
That because they were fetuses that were never born. We are a nation of laws and law states you must be born to be alive under the law.
At that point Planned Parenthood should be able to sue anyone that spreads that lie for slander. At some point spreading slander should cost those who chose to do it.
Every conservative that is against abortion should volunteer to give half of their salary to support all these unwanted children. Once the conservatives forced these women to have these babies they would let them starve to death without so much as a thought before they would pay higher taxes to feed them.
The NRA is being funded by the Russians now they don’t need any money from the American government.
You would think that even the NRA would push for a reasonable age limit before you could purchase an instrument of mass murder, but the NRA would fight any age limit. The NRA fought the new Florida age limit and got trounced by a bunch of high school students.
We are not talking about the money spent but where the money came from.
Trump’s total doesn’t list the trillion dollars the Russian military spent on in kind contributions to get Trump elected.
Trump is a train wreck and even he bragged about billions he got in free publicity.
Everyone will stop and look at a train wreck and the media is no exception. The Russian were busy stuffing the ballot box for Trump months before the election by posting all the false stories they could generate. A building in Moscow was dedicated to posting fake stories in America.
I am sorry, but you could hand out all the debate questions 10 days before the debate and you would still get the same answers.
But Trump publicly explaining how he plans to gift wrap and hand America over to Russia is quite a different matter.
The NRA (gun manufacturers associations) is only interested in one thing and that is money and their close association and work with the Russians demonstrates that beyond any and all doubt.
Maybe people should take more personal responsibility when it comes to their own actions and they wouldn't have to have abortions. People now a days don't care if they can care for a child or not, they will have them any ways because they know people like you will demand others pay for their mistakes and not the people who made them.
Why would you want those sorts of irresponsible people to reproduce? Chances are that their offspring will be just as irresponsible.
Do you think victims of rape are irresponsible and should be forced to carry their rapist's baby to term?
And what about people who do take responsibility, use birth control, and the method fails?
I understand why people have qualms about abortion as a form of "birth control" but there's a punitive quality to the argument that a woman must give birth to a child that was conceived accidentally, as a result of coercion, or just out of plain stupidity so as to teach them some sort of "lesson". A child shouldn't be involuntarily born solely as a way of reminding a woman of the error of her ways.
In our society we differentiate between children and adults. The adults have control over their children. Minors are under the control of adults. If you contend that age limits to buy a gun are illegal, then they would have been overturned in a court of law. They haven’t been. It is just another case of reasonable limits being placed on a right.
It is the NRA (gun manufacturer association) money that bought Trump. When all the Russian military contributions are counted Trump got twice as much in services from the Russian military.
You need to keep with current events another member of the Trump inner circle was arrested today with even more Russian connections.
How many have been arrested or pled guilty?
There is absolutely no doubt about the Russian military contributions to Trump’s campaign. You have to know all the pieces of the puzzle.
What is directly contributed to the campaign is only a small portion of the money spent to elect a president. The super packs funded by the ungodly greedy make up a large portion of money spent to get a candidate elected.
Trump is a conman and national embarrassment when members of his own party ask that he not be permitted to attend their funerals it tells you what a low life Trump is.
Both John McCain and the Bush family requested that Trump not be permitted to attend their funerals. They made sure that Trump would not be allowed to attend the Royal wedding. They deliberately did not invite heads of state to make sure Trump would not attend the wedding. A number of psychiatrists have publicly declared the narcissist mentally unfit.
