I will agree that the government was corrupted by the gun manufacturer’s money and is responsible for letting assault weapons on the streets to start with but it tells us more about unlimited political contributions by corporations than anything else.
Twisting my words again? You should really include my comments if you are going to play games. Oh wait, with my actual words, you couldn't play those games.
Corporations should never be allowed to make political contributions to corrupt our government. I don’t want to take anything from government that government didn’t already have but I do want to take the power that corporations exercise over government.
If you won't want companies making political contributions, then stop using the govt to control business and create fake markets. The people have a right to petition their govt and that includes people who own companies, to fight against pointless regulation and govt control.
The Maryland shooting was not a mass murder the shooter had specific targets in mind.
Having specific or none specific targets in mind has no bearing on the definition of a mass shooter.
The shooter had no need to fire 20 rounds in less than a minute and had already stopped shooting and walked away by the time the policeman arrived.
Why do the mass murders choose assault weapons instead of semi-automatic hand guns?
The AR-15 is not an assault weapon, it is a semi-auto, just like the handguns. The rate of fire depends on how fast you can pull the trigger, which does not equal being able to hit a target.
Because assault weapons are designed to kill large number of people in a shortest period of time.
That isn't even close to the truth. Remember the AR-15 is not an assault weapon, assault weapons fire full auto, not semi-auto.
The policeman in FL was doing exactly what he was trained to do 30 years ago when he was hired which was long before Columbine.
This has got to be your weakest thought yet. He was retrained when the police dept updated their response tactic's. He would only have been at that school if he had received the training and was qualified. He failed to do his job, plain and simple.
Now it looks like that they willing to make shooting dummies out of policemen to save face in the press. You have no idea whether the FL had retrained its officers after Columbine.
Yes, we do. The Sheriff has even come out a week afterwards and said exactly what their protocol is for an active shooter, they engage and do not wait for SWAT. Don't believe me, read this article.
See how that works, see how easy it is to prove facts... the rest of what you say is a lie.
I will give you the fact that civilians are not suppose to have guns in a gun free zone but that does not mean that there are no guns there.
You are really twisting in the breeze on this one. No guns for civilians means no gun zone, read the law again.
I don’t know whether WV tracks stolen guns separately from other property but Justice Department does track the number of guns stolen. Between 2005 and 2010 over 1.4 million guns were stolen over 200,000 a year. The average loss if one gun is stolen is $400. The illusion that gun manufacturers push, that gun ownership keeps your family safe is just that an illusion. Owning guns make your family a target for thieves not to mention accidental shootings and suicides.
Thief's when interviewed, said they avoid houses they think have guns, they don't want to be shot.
See, proof, not hard.
I worked with the fireman for thirty years and he lives a short distance up the road. The state policeman who investigated the break in told the fireman that whoever took his guns knew his routine. The fireman always believed it was a neighbor but could never prove it. There were other break-ins in that neighborhood including one of the police lieutenant’s son who had his door kicked in three times and no doubt he owned guns also. Again, gun ownership makes you a target.
As long as you can go to your corner gun store and buy an AR-15 why should a mass murder bother to steal it.
So you amend you other statement about people stealing AR-15's? You had claimed before that people who stole them whet on to be mass shooters.
At a council meeting I told one councilman he was a faithful follower of PLR. He asked what that was and I told him the Path of Least Resistance and mass murders follow that path also.
So you throw baseless actusations at people who don't follow your beliefs? I"m not surprised by this in the least, I see how you talk about gun owners.
A cutting torch will melt most metals and if I cut it up there would be no useable parts left.
Good for you.
The basic principal of democracy is majority rule.
We are not a basic democracy. I have already provided proof, keep avoiding the truth.
Office holders are elected by majority with the exception of Trump and baby Bush who were elected by a majority of electoral votes.
You are wrong again. The President is and has always been elected by getting the required number of votes in the Electoral College, the "popular vote" has NEVER been used to elect a President. See, the Constitution is preventing mob rule.
Bills in congress are not passed by the minority. School bonds often require a super majority to pass. No school bonds are passed by a super minority.
They also do not usually pass without some votes for the minority. The House has usually required a super majority, 60+ votes to pass something onto Congress. I don't think you really understand how our govt works.
I was able to copy and paste the quote but the word “quote” appeared at the bottom of the quote not the top. A dialogue box appeared and I hit save and it wiped out 2 hrs of work and after an hour of searching documents I gave up.
Yeah sure... I've read your responses, I doubt it took you 2 hours of reading. You can just paste the links for the stories as plain text, I'll copy and paste the link. No link no proof.
I don’t remember the topic it might have been about gay marriage since that was not a big topic in law classes at that time.
Do you base all of your arguments off of 30 year old data? Gay Marriage has been a major issue in this country for about 10 years. Don't be daft.
Most professional know that the structure of questions can influence the polls outcome but if it gives them a false result their polls will not be reliable and they would lose business.
Wrong, the majority of "polls" are looking for a predefined outcome. In our world of political bias, these people will have jobs for decades to come.
There are push polls like the one used by baby Bush in South Carolina where voters were called and asked what they thought about John McCain’s black child.
Proof? You make up way to many things for me to believe anything you have to say about the GOP.
It was designed to make the public in South Carolina aware that McCain had a black child (adopted) but the public was given the impression the child was from an affair.
Sounds more like a tactic by the DNC.
If you don’t have to register a gun to buy it we are in far more trouble than many thought.
You don't even know what the real gun laws are... wow. The only purpose of such a registration would be to take those weapons later on. Sorry, the Constitution protects my right to privacy from undue search or seizure, that pesky 4th Amendment and all.
Republicans gripe all the time that movies are used to influence public opinion against them.
That is very true. The very liberal left controls the entertainment industry and the MSM and has for about 30 years now. There are very few news outlets that are not operated by the left.
Ronald Reagan job during WWII was to make propaganda movies for the military to influence the public. I think the operation was called Funpoo or something similar and they cranked out movie after movie. The military would not have spent millions on the project during wartime if it was not effective. The movies were effective in influence Americans to join the military and go off to war. Did the movies make the public more violent? Beyond any and all doubt they picked up guns and went to kill the enemy. Your study better take a look at those movies and what they were designed to do and what they accomplish and then rethink their lame conclusions.
I don't know which study you are talking about, you don't quote anything that is said.
Hunting and guns go together like spaghetti and meatballs. As hunting declines and it is declining so will the number of guns.
Do you have any facts to back this claim that hunting in on the decline? I also don't see a connection between hunting and gun ownership, unless you think the 2nd Amendment only applies to hunting... which it doesn't, no mention of hunting in the 2nd Amendment.
What else is there? Protect your home?
That is one of the reasons people purchase a gun. The 2013 CDC report said 500,000 to 2.5 million uses of guns in self-defense. Unless we live in a crime free world, people will always have the need to protect themselves. Those who are the weakest among us should always have the choice.
Guns are an open invitation to worst criminals in your area. That leaves with target practice. Most people will eventually get tired of going bang, bang.
I don't think you live in the real world.
Statistics show beyond any doubt that gun ownership is declining.
Proof? Current studies and not something from 30 years ago?
At one time many Americans fed their families by hunting and a gun was a required tool to feed their family.
Some still do, depending on where they live. So people choose to not use meat from the store and hunt for their own.
Now hunting is primarily recreational, a sport.
People still eat what they kill or donate it to places that feed the homeless and hungry. I'm not sure what hunting has to do with my Constitutional Right to own a gun.
Like it or not the Western’s infused the idea into a generation that guns were a masculinity symbol and everyone needed one to show how masculine they were.
Transference is the worst way to debate, you should really give it a rest.
Those movies and the gun philosophy they drove are riding off into the sunset now.
Action movies are the biggest money makers in the movie business, without those action movies, the studios wouldn't have the money to make all those other types of movies that make no money. Action movies subsidize the drama's and the other far left movies you more than likely love. How much money did that anti-gun movie, Miss Sloane, cost vs how much it made?
It cost $18 million and made $5.9 million, that's a $12 million dollar loss for an anti-gun propaganda film.
The fantasy of guns and the reality of guns are far different. It is the fantasy you are in love with.
You are completely wrong. I've forgotten more things about guns then you actually know. The reason I enjoy those movies is because I know they are fake and nothing in them is real, let alone how guns work and what a real gun fight is actually like, it's fantasy. I know how guns work, that's why I laugh at well over 80% of the things you post about them. I'm beginning to think you treat this gun debate like an article in the Onion, the facts about equal.
Any of the cases you provided could have just as easily been handled with a hand gun. The security fired two bullets not thirty.
They could have, but they weren't, they used an AR-15, that is what you asked for proof of.
Is that the best you got? You ask for proof of the AR-15 being used as a defensive weapon and I provide it. I can post plenty more stories, just ask. With 500,000 to 2.5 million defensive gun uses per year, there are plenty to go around. Of course the majority of those stories will be with handguns, it still proves that people use the AR-15 for defense far more than it is used in mass shootings.
The security fired two bullets not thirty.
He fired as many as he needed to, to stop the treat. Sounds like very sound judgement and correct action taken by the LEO, unlike the guy in FL who failed to follow active shooter protocol.
Cowards are usually the ones holding the gun and that is why they have to have one in the first place.
Cowards always question the bravery of others. I think the women who defends herself from a violent stalker is no coward.
He was under the bed, how far away were the police?
You are also aware that the SCOTUS has ruled that the police have no right to protect you, so it is really up to you to protect yourself. When the average police response time is between 9 and 11 minutes, that leaves a lot of time for some to kill you. According to you, it only takes a single bullet and a fraction of a second. When the police get there, you are dead and the homicide detectives show up.