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House of Reps. member Giffords shot in Arizona today

 
 
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:29 am
@eurocelticyankee,
In re: The truth of the matter is that palin has elevated shooting caribou to the level of a sacrament. She has encouraged other dumb female pols to regard guns as a fashion accessory, a cure for what they think ails the citizenry and a substitute for reasoned debate.

If you tell a person how to commit suicide and the person follows your advice, you might be tried for murder. Palin has been telling the nation how to commit suicide.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:30 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
umm finn, those were surveyor's symbols.

you guys need to get your story straight...
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:35 am
@snood,
I think the right is far more incendiary than the left.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:36 am
I think POM is far less intelligent than Palin.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:38 am
@Rockhead,

Democrats actually used bulls-eye targets on their map.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:38 am
@Rockhead,
Of course they were crosshairs, just as the symbols the Democrats used were targets.

Unfortunate, in poor taste or simply stupid, neither can be blamed for the actions of a madman.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:38 am
@H2O MAN,
As you have everything backwards, thanks for the compliment.

Unlike sarah, I never participated in the one night A process. I have no plastic parts.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:39 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
then why Palin's about face and lie?

is it just easier to do it that way?

repetition and all...
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:39 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Howard Kurtz has it right in his Daily Beast column -

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Byron York in Washinton Examiner also has it right.



Wow, two of the biggest right-wing hacks in all of journalism say that there's nothing to see here, everyone go home and move on. How totally shocking and compelling.

Watching the right-wing get way over-defensive over this is both predictable and sad.

Cycloptichorn
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:40 am
@Rockhead,
What lie?

Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:41 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
her people now say that they are surveyors symbols.

don't you read squirt's links?
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:42 am
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/01/palin-crosshairs-nothing-to-do-with.html
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:45 am
@plainoldme,
POM, you will never grow as a human until you face and accept your numerous shortcomings, only then will you garner honest compliments from others.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:46 am
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

her people now say that they are surveyors symbols.



What took them so long?
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 10:46 am
music while we wait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-hl6yAsFKQ&feature=related
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 11:01 am
Former Senator Bob Kerrey (D-Nebraska) made the accusation that Arizona gunman Jared Loughner was motivated by talk of repealing Obamacare.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 11:02 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
you can just call me a douchebag.

it's okay...
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 11:03 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Well here's another opinion you will likely assign to a "right-wing hack"

The Arizona Tragedy and the Politics of Blood Libel

Those who purport to care about the tenor of political discourse don't help civil debate when they seize on any pretext to call their political opponents accomplices to murder.


From the article:

Quote:
To be clear, if you're using this event to criticize the "rhetoric" of Mrs. Palin or others with whom you disagree, then you're either: (a) asserting a connection between the "rhetoric" and the shooting, which based on evidence to date would be what we call a vicious lie; or (b) you're not, in which case you're just seizing on a tragedy to try to score unrelated political points, which is contemptible. Which is it?


Which is it for you Cyclo?

Watching the Left reflexively trying to score political points in connection with this tragedy is disgusting.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 11:05 am
@Rockhead,
Sorry Rocky, you'll just have to wait your turn.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2011 11:12 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Holy ****, you went to Glenn Reynolds?!!?! Yes, he's a right-wing hack with a history of idiotic statements. You did yourself no credit by linking to him. Worse than the other two, by a lot.

I reject his false set of options. One is perfectly capable of pointing out the inevitable consequences of violent rhetoric without specifically assigning blame to individuals.

Are Palin, Beck, Bachmann or others on the right-wing guilty of inspiring this guy to assassinate? Probably not, at least not directly. But they are guilty of regularly using rhetoric which can easily be seen as a call for such things. And as you've pointed out before, it's irresponsible and should be condemned.

When you use overheated rhetoric and then actions like this occur, you ought to be ready to own up to the fact that you participate in said rhetoric. The right-wing doesn't seem able to do that. Instead, they instantly deny any connection between anything they might have said and anything any person does - every time.

Quote:
Watching the Left reflexively trying to score political points in connection with this tragedy is disgusting.


What political points? Who scores points by comparing the violent rhetoric? Who is keeping this score? Who is harmed by this?

The right-wing wouldn't have to worry about this if they didn't regularly promote and celebrate what amounts to thinly-veiled calls to violence. But they do, and this is the result. If you don't like it - and it's pretty clear you don't - then maybe next time when your candidates and political leaders start engaging in violent rhetoric, you'll be a little louder about telling them to shut the **** up. You and other right-wingers claim to find such statements distasteful or over the line, but that's hard to believe, as no consequence ever comes from the use of such language by your political leaders.

At least, not from your side, it doesn't.

Cycloptichorn
 

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