hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sat 21 Nov, 2015 04:14 pm
Quote:
 It hurts to put these words in print, but… Ann Coulter may be right. Shortly after the Paris attacks began last Friday, she tweeted, “They can wait if they like until next November for the actual balloting, but Donald Trump was elected president tonight.”


Stephen Colbert agrees. He told us this week to get used to saying “President Trump”—and led his studio audience to repeat the words in unison and then pretend to barf.

 Yes, it’s hard to stomach. America’s most entertaining demagogue winning the GOP primaries and then the general? It can’t happen here, can it?

Democrats have been expressing absolute incredulity at the possibility, and quietly chuckling to themselves about the Clinton landslide to come if Donald is his party’s nominee. The Huffington Post has banned Trump from its politics section and relegated him to Entertainment, as if there he’d be no more than a joke.

The problem is that our liberal incredulity mirrors that of the Republican establishment, which refuses to believe that their front-runner of five straight months could possibly win their nomination. Now even after the carnage in Paris, Beltway pundits are telling themselves that the base will sober up and turn toward “experienced” pols like Rubio or Bush and away from the newbie nuts. As the always-wrong Bill Kristol said of this latest terrorism crisis, “I think it hurts Trump and Carson, honestly.”

But, honestly, it’s only strengthened Trump. Since the November 13 attacks, every poll—in Florida, two in New Hampshire, and three nationwide—shows Trump maintaining or expanding his lead against his primary opponents. Poor Ben Carson, only recently Trump’s chief rival, is losing energy like, well, you know who. In the Fox NH poll, it’s Trump at 27, Rubio 13, Cruz 11, and Carson down there at 9 percent alongside Jeb!

It’s easy to laugh at GOPers in denial, but progressives who pooh-pooh Trump’s chances of beating Hillary may be whistling past the graveyard of American democracy.



http://www.thenation.com/article/believe-it-trump-can-defeat-hillary/

Hey! The Caffeine is starting to kick in!

Awesome.
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McGentrix
 
  -2  
Sat 21 Nov, 2015 05:13 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

So, he'll just bypass congress, and do whatever he likes?

There's a word for that..... it's OBAMA
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sat 21 Nov, 2015 05:50 pm
@McGentrix,
To these clowns the ends justify the means is only acceptable when it is their will being advanced by deception and abuse. The thing that the liberal elite need to get through their thick skulls is that by their own behavior they have trashed their credibility. The R's had nothing to do with it, though it is entertaining to watch the clueless Yap of the D elite trying to blame the kid next to them for their own rotten behavior. Kind of like watching Showgirls, the show is so bad it is good.

So very sad too.......
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Builder
 
  0  
Sun 22 Nov, 2015 02:33 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
There's a word for that..... it's OBAMA


I thought old mate would pick up on that, but he's fixated on this game show character. You'd think with all that money, he'd do something with his hair.
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hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2015 03:56 pm
Quote:
"Chuck you need to calm down," Kasich said. "What I've argued is the Western ethic — what is it about? It's about life, it's about equality of women, it's about the freedom of religion. It's not about going to church. That's not what I'm talking about."

Later in the interview, Todd asked Kasich the key question that has vexed many political analysts and party insiders: How is Kasich losing to Donald Trump?

"Why is this appealing?" Todd asked. "Why is it working? Why do you think Trump is working?"

Kasich, whose affiliated "super PAC" is planning an advertising blitz to try to take down Trump, suggested that Trump's popularity could simply be a figment of unreliable early polling data.

"I don't know how much he's working and I don't know who they're surveying," Kasich said. "I do believe in polls like you do, but at the same time, who are they surveying? And are these people for real? I don't think so."


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chuck-todd-confronts-john-kasich-204358312.html

WOW, the willful delusion runs deep. Maybe this guy needs a psych eval.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2015 04:11 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
First, here’s how the GOP race stands: Trump remains in the top spot with a record 28 percent support from Republican primary voters. He was at 26 percent in the last Fox poll, which was completed before the last debate and the Paris attacks (November 1-3, 2015).

Carson drops from 23 percent to 18 percent in the new poll. Cruz and Rubio are both up three points and garner 14 percent each.

All others are in the low single digits: Jeb Bush gets 5 percent, while Chris Christie, Carly Fiorina, and Mike Huckabee each get 3 percent. John Kasich and Rand Paul receive 2 percent a piece.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/11/22/fox-news-poll-trump-gains-carson-slips-cruz-and-rubio-climb-in-gop-race.html

Kasich gets media time only because the liberal elite like him, R voters dont.
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2015 05:00 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:


WOW, the willful delusion runs deep.


Truer words were never spoken. Although, not necessarily about Kasich!
McGentrix
 
  -1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2015 10:30 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

hawkeye10 wrote:


WOW, the willful delusion runs deep.


Truer words were never spoken. Although, not necessarily about Kasich!


Yeah, I don't get the support that Hillary gets either. Runs deep.
Builder
 
  1  
Sun 22 Nov, 2015 10:37 pm
@McGentrix,
Quote:
Yeah, I don't get the support that Hillary gets either. Runs deep.


But does it really? A recent study at Princeton U covering twenty years of govt decisions exposed the nation as being an oligarchy.

Elections are just window dressing.

Here it is.
farmerman
 
  5  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 05:39 am
@Builder,
Politics is a game in which the power structure allows the masses to believe that they have anything to sqy.

Even with Trump the plutocracy will continue..
"Citizens United" confirms this . Until we hve another uprising we just sit and take their ****.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 07:16 am
@farmerman,
There's an eticket event for a Trump speech somewhere in the Midwest, my daughter and a lot of her friends have snatched them up.
Lash
 
  1  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 07:32 am
@Builder,
Unless we can actually put a change agent in the Oval Office and vote out opposition. If we don't create a solution with a little work and funding, there's no chance to change anything.
Builder
 
  0  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 03:11 pm
My "stake" in this rather dubious situation (along with all Australians) is that US foreign policy directly affects Australia's standing on the global stage. Our nation's military support for US military "activity" seems to be a given, which is creating the same situation/s re islamophobia and the fallout that can create.

Trump's rhetoric gives no indication but for an even worse situation in the future, and Hillary gives me even less hope, going on her past performance, and war-drum beating recently.

The whole situation for America seems to be one of continuing to gut the middle-class, and create a serf class, where many people have little other option but to enlist, or starve.

As farmerman says, if not a revolution, then what hope for us?
Brand X
 
  1  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 03:20 pm
So to back up his claim that 'thousands and thousands of people(in Jersey City) celebrated as the building(Tower) was coming down....he posts an article from Wapo about a few who were detained for allegedly celebrating and/or having rooftop parties. Trump said he saw it on TV.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/22/donald-trump/fact-checking-trumps-claim-thousands-new-jersey-ch/

Amazing the claims he can throw out and continue to ride on the wave of popularity. I keep thinking he's like certain insects that only live a few days then they are gone. *shrugs*

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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 03:22 pm
@Builder,
Hopefully we can make a course correction.

But if not...it is almost certain to end the way this kind of crap ended for France in the late 18th century...or Russia in the early 20th.

I'm hoping for the badly needed course correction.
Builder
 
  0  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 03:39 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
I'm hoping for the badly needed course correction.


Hope isn't going to change anything, unfortunately.

Sanders is talking the good talk, but the oligarchy clearly dislikes him.

I'm in support of an activist movement called 99Rise. Their major push is to get the money out of the election process. Meaning overturning the "Citizens United" ruling of the SCOTUS. (which has nothing to do with uniting citizens, BTW)

You can take a look at their activities here.
RABEL222
 
  1  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 03:44 pm
@Frank Apisa,
It will only happen if the brain washed citizenary finally wake up to the fact that they are being lied too by all politicians and their bosses the 1%.
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RABEL222
 
  1  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 03:50 pm
@Builder,
Have you noticed that there are 25 or 30 organizations who claim to be against the S C ruling but do nothing but cry and take money from the citizens who are against the ruling? But none of them do anything but cry and moan. Why dont they band together and go for a national referendum rather than getting money from the public so the leaders of these organizations can pay the so called leaders hundreds of thousands of dollars in wages?
Builder
 
  0  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 03:58 pm
@RABEL222,
The people from 99Rise regularly get arrested, if that means anything.

You can view their activities on the link in my last post. Maybe join up, and get involved?

It's no secret that many activist orgs get infiltrated and taken over. I guess if you're in the thick of it, you'd see who is trying to redirect efforts away from the original tenet.
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Builder
 
  0  
Mon 23 Nov, 2015 11:48 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Unless we can actually put a change agent in the Oval Office and vote out opposition.


Do you have somebody in mind?

Remembering that the current admin got in on a ticket of "Hope and Change".

Sound bytes are really all it's down to. Hillary is saying "It's Time". For what exactly?

I'm hearing good and bad things about Sanders, but at least he's speaking about issues that are actually relevant to the times.

The Don is merely stirring unrest, and attacking minorities. He knows his audience. As a divider and conquerer, he is doing a great job.... for the elites.
 

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