The Future President, Donald Trump

I can believe to absolute dedication to certain subject by certain people on this site which makes me disregard their opinions on certain subjects. Just as I am sure they regard me as misguided and misinformed on everything I post.

Thanks for your babble but I wasent refering to any of them. You however were one of those I was talking about.

What I want to see Trump do right now is to write a full page ad in NYT and WP detailing the top 20 ways Obama and Hillary have fucked up on Syria, Iraq and Daesh ....just flame the ************ Obama, and ask do we really want this incompetent bitch Clinton in the POTUS chair.

They have certainly earned it.

And if Obama gets his panties in a twist we can remind him that no crisis should go to waste.

Slamming President Barack Obama and Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton for not referring to the threat from ISIS as "radical Islam," Trump told his supporters here that it's time to "talk about" the threat and pledged a more aggressive response if elected president.

"You hear the term radical Islamic terrorism. He won't say it. He won't say it," Trump said referring to Obama. "I mean you can't solve a problem if you refuse to talk about what the problem is. And he won't talk about it. I don't know what 's going on with this man. And you know who else won't talk about it? Hillary. She won't talk about it."

Trump's biggest applause lines came as he once again pledged to "bomb the **** out of" ISIS and forcefully insisted the U.S. should not accept any Syrian refugees.

The New York conversational style is “high-involvement,” wrote Deborah Tannen, professor of linguistics at Georgetown University, in her book Conversational Style; it’s not “high-considerateness” like other American ways of speaking. “The risk of offending by not talking is deemed greater than the risk of offending by talking too much,” she has written. In the course of Tannen’s studies, she has seen no evidence the accent has fallen off, though linguists who study New York City English are hearing its sounds less frequently. “A New York ‘accent’ is much more than how you pronounce words,” Tannen told me over the phone.
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The way you present yourself as someone who would become a statesman is, you move with dignity. You want to be solid, or even stolid,” said Charles Hill, a former advisor to Reagan and Kissinger and Diplomat-in-Residence at Yale University, where he teaches Oratory in Statecraft. “Both Sanders and Trump are using their arms and bodies in ways that have a New York reference. They lean forward—as if they’re on a street corner, having an argument with you.”

Trump’s fans, generally, don’t use New York City English or its conversational style. It is likely, then, that they misunderstand his speech in the subtle ways Tannen lays out. They may take him always at his word, a chilling prospect when, for a New York conversationalist, exaggeration and confrontation are just part of the game. Bernie’s fans may appreciate his Brooklynese as stylishly old-fashioned and virtuously working-class, while not reading its subtleties. He’s less one-note than he seems.

“The message is, I’ll tell it like it is, and the New York accent is very congenial to that,” Tannen said over the phone. “It’s probably not a coincidence that they’re both from New York.” Candidates milk their assets. During his monologue on last week’s Saturday Night Live, Trump actually said, “ay yi yi.”

Sanders’s accent is rarely so affected. The linguist William Labov—whose “fourth floor” study examined social stratification in New York City via the “r”s the accent drops—had to hark back to Burt Lancaster to find a New York accent as pleasingly unaffected as Sanders’s: “native, straightforward… unmonetized, straightforward, unselfconscious without being comic or gangsterly.”

“The situation is something like this,” Labov, who is from New Jersey, said in a phone call. “Politicians are different from other people in that their use of the common dialect establishes their relationship with the public.”

Though New York City English has been traditionally viewed as “bombastic and rude,” it may add to Sanders and Trump’s appeal to those many voters “sick of Washington,” Hill said. “It’s entertaining. It’s a year before the election—people make calls on polling questions not on ‘whether I want this guy to be president’ but ‘is this guy expressing the way I feel?’” The New York accent helps to draw people closer, it would seem, as well as to tell it to them straight. These are related.

The last New York City-accented president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, spoke with an airy, patrician accent that is now practically extinct. Nelson Rockefeller, the Governor of New York, Vice President under Gerald Ford, and erstwhile campaigner for the presidency, spoke with a hint of a New York City English closer to Sanders’s and Trump’s. It inflected his vowels.

Penelope Eckert, professor of linguistics at Stanford, was a graduate student in New York at the time Rockefeller ran for office. “It’s a way of showing you’re an approachable New Yorker,” she recalled. A student of hers once told Eckert that her New Jersey accent came out when she answered “stupid questions.” The implication—that Eckert wielded her accent to condescend or mock—troubled her, so she gave the matter some thought. What Eckert concluded is what Trump and Sanders have likely also deduced: It’s a way to be close to people.

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The New York conversational style is “high-involvement,” wrote Deborah Tannen, professor of linguistics at Georgetown University, in her book Conversational Style; it’s not “high-considerateness” like other American ways of speaking. “The risk of offending by not talking is deemed greater than the risk of offending by talking too much,” she has written. In the course of Tannen’s studies, she has seen no evidence the accent has fallen off, though linguists who study New York City English are hearing its sounds less frequently. “A New York ‘accent’ is much more than how you pronounce words,” Tannen told me over the phone.
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The way you present yourself as someone who would become a statesman is, you move with dignity. You want to be solid, or even stolid,” said Charles Hill, a former advisor to Reagan and Kissinger and Diplomat-in-Residence at Yale University, where he teaches Oratory in Statecraft. “Both Sanders and Trump are using their arms and bodies in ways that have a New York reference. They lean forward—as if they’re on a street corner, having an argument with you.”

Trump’s fans, generally, don’t use New York City English or its conversational style. It is likely, then, that they misunderstand his speech in the subtle ways Tannen lays out. They may take him always at his word, a chilling prospect when, for a New York conversationalist, exaggeration and confrontation are just part of the game. Bernie’s fans may appreciate his Brooklynese as stylishly old-fashioned and virtuously working-class, while not reading its subtleties. He’s less one-note than he seems.

“The message is, I’ll tell it like it is, and the New York accent is very congenial to that,” Tannen said over the phone. “It’s probably not a coincidence that they’re both from New York.” Candidates milk their assets. During his monologue on last week’s Saturday Night Live, Trump actually said, “ay yi yi.”

Sanders’s accent is rarely so affected. The linguist William Labov—whose “fourth floor” study examined social stratification in New York City via the “r”s the accent drops—had to hark back to Burt Lancaster to find a New York accent as pleasingly unaffected as Sanders’s: “native, straightforward… unmonetized, straightforward, unselfconscious without being comic or gangsterly.”

“The situation is something like this,” Labov, who is from New Jersey, said in a phone call. “Politicians are different from other people in that their use of the common dialect establishes their relationship with the public.”

Though New York City English has been traditionally viewed as “bombastic and rude,” it may add to Sanders and Trump’s appeal to those many voters “sick of Washington,” Hill said. “It’s entertaining. It’s a year before the election—people make calls on polling questions not on ‘whether I want this guy to be president’ but ‘is this guy expressing the way I feel?’” The New York accent helps to draw people closer, it would seem, as well as to tell it to them straight. These are related.

The last New York City-accented president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, spoke with an airy, patrician accent that is now practically extinct. Nelson Rockefeller, the Governor of New York, Vice President under Gerald Ford, and erstwhile campaigner for the presidency, spoke with a hint of a New York City English closer to Sanders’s and Trump’s. It inflected his vowels.

Penelope Eckert, professor of linguistics at Stanford, was a graduate student in New York at the time Rockefeller ran for office. “It’s a way of showing you’re an approachable New Yorker,” she recalled. A student of hers once told Eckert that her New Jersey accent came out when she answered “stupid questions.” The implication—that Eckert wielded her accent to condescend or mock—troubled her, so she gave the matter some thought. What Eckert concluded is what Trump and Sanders have likely also deduced: It’s a way to be close to people.

https://newrepublic.com/article/123769/hey-im-running-for-president-here

I have not figured out how Trump figures to talk next summer or when he is President, but he sure understands stuff about connecting with the people that latter day stage managed professional politicians have not understood.....or likely even knew existed.

Trumps speaking style wears on me, but I get it, I understand why he is doing it and he is right to do so. So long as it evolves I will not mind.

I don't know Hawk. You should feel honored that there are 2 or three posters here that have nothing better to do then follow you and thumb down your posts. It's like have paparazzi following you around. Or lost little puppies. They'd have nothing in their lives if they didn't get on A2K and thumb down your posts.

An excellent example of why the owners should just give up and junk the voting system. Such a fine post being rated -3 paints A2K as ghetto. That cant be good for getting people to consider hanging around. It is the lack of new blood more than anything else that kills this place. We get swamped with a handful of mostly white mostly half batty or better old men filling the void with questionable quality content.

(Reuters) - American voters are evenly split between Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump and Democratic rival Hillary Clinton as their top choice to address the issue of terrorism following the Paris attacks, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

Asked to choose between the entire field of 2016 presidential hopefuls, 20 percent of 1,106 respondents surveyed between Nov. 16-17 opted for Trump. An equal share picked Clinton.

Given Clinton's background as a former secretary of state it is perhaps not surprising that she did reasonably well in the poll. However, Trump's good showing upends an emerging narrative that the Paris shootings and suicide bombings would prompt voters to rethink their support for the real estate billionaire, who leads the field of Republican presidential candidates.

What's impressive? That only 20% of Americans are idiots?

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What's impressive? That only 20% of Americans are idiots?

dont play dumb with me.

Trump names Cruz when asked about VP spot