The Future President, Donald Trump

Don the Con Jr. plagiarized Buckley last night

For the second night in a row, a speech given by a member of Donald Trump's family is raising eyebrows for lines previously used elsewhere.

Donald Trump Jr. in his headline address at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland delivered a near-exact repetition of a small part of an American Conservative article written by F.H. Buckley, titled "Trump vs. the New Class."

"Our schools used to be an elevator to the middle class. Now they're stalled on the ground floor. They're like Soviet-Era Department stores that are run for the benefit of the clerks and not the customers," Trump's son said in his speech Tuesday night.

The line in Buckley's article reads, "Our schools and universities are like the old Soviet department stores whose mission was to serve the interests of the sales clerks and not the customers."

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/donald-trump-jr-s-speechwriter-defends-recycling-lines-rnc-n612976

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@bobsal u1553115,

You're worried about somebody using a paragraph from another person's speech but you're not worried about a woman who recklessly put the secrets and the lives of people of the United States in peril from our enemies and then continuously lied about it to Congress and the public... And this is the person who we should trust as president of the United States somebody who believes she is above the law... Absolutely amazing.

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Trump Reportedly Tried to Convince Kasich to Be His VP by Offering Him the President’s Job
Source: Slate

The New York Times’ Robert Draper has a rather remarkable accounting of how Donald Trump went about picking Mike Pence as his running mate more or less by default, which includes this doozy:

One day this past May, Donald Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., reached out to a senior adviser to Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, who left the presidential race just a few weeks before. As a candidate, Kasich declared in March that Trump was “really not prepared to be president of the United States,” and the following month he took the highly unusual step of coordinating with his rival Senator Ted Cruz in an effort to deny Trump the nomination. But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?

When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?

“Making America great again” was the casual reply.

Read more: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/07/20/trump_reportedly_wanted_kasich_as_vp_to_be_in_charge_of_domestic_and_foreign.html

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@glitterbag,

do you think there´s a chance he could win? REALLY?!!! it´s surreal!
we don't believe that´s possible here, i mean... it´s perceived as an impossibility.....

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@momoends,

I hate to say it, but there is definitely the chance he can win. The polls, for all the mistakes and flubs that he makes, only have him about 4 percentage points behind Hillary.

What I am hoping is happening is that Hillary is going easy on Trump until Trump actually gets the nomination-then she opens up on him. A month or so ago Hillary was up about 10 points, then her lead began disappearing bit by bit. I'm wondering if Hillary became afraid a month ago that if she went up in the polls anymore, the GOP would find a way to take the nomination away from Trump. So Hillary took it relatively easy on Trump before he actually got the nomination, lets Trump get close, then she plans to really hit him hard. God knows there are a whole bunch of places Trump can be attacked on.

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@Blickers,

To be honest, that sounds like some serious rationalization.

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@momoends,

momoends wrote:

do you think there´s a chance he could win? REALLY?!!! it´s surreal!
we don't believe that´s possible here, i mean... it´s perceived as an impossibility.....

Yeah, but - didn't a lot of people consider it an impossibility that he would even win the nomination?

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@momoends,

A lot of people thought Brexit wouldn't happen either, but here we are.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmleOjsWcAUwrxP.jpg

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Trump: "Laziness is a trait in blacks. I believe that. It’s not anything they can control."

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/7/20/1550251/-Trump-laziness-is-a-trait-in-blacks-I-believe-that#read-more

The “laziness” statement came after Donald Trump started having financial difficulties at his casinos in Atlantic City. Trump’s response? He had black accountants. And he managed to squeeze two forms of racism into a single statement.

John O’Donnell, who was president of the Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino and later wrote a memoir about his experience, said Trump blamed financial difficulties partly on African American accountants.

“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza — black guys counting my money!” O’Donnell’s book quoted Trump as saying. “I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else. . . . Besides that, I’ve got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is; I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

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Donald Trump says his administration might not back NATO allies if Russia invades
Source: The Week

In a 45-minute interview with The New York Times in his Cleveland hotel room on Wednesday, Donald Trump spoke at length about foreign policy. He shared some interesting ideas, all tied to his theme of "America first." He said he would "pull out of NAFTA in a split second" if Mexico and Canada didn't agree to renegotiate on terms much more favorable to the U.S., for example, and suggested America has no place telling countries like Turkey to respect human rights: "When the world sees how bad the United States is and we start talking about civil liberties, I don't think we are a very good messenger."

But perhaps the most unorthodox part of the interview was Trump's views on NATO, the 28-member military alliance of pledged mutual defense in Europe. The Times asked Trump what he would do if Russia attacked the Baltic States, the newest members of NATO, and Trump said he would come to their aid only after looking at whether they "have fulfilled their obligations to us," financially and otherwise. "If they fulfill their obligations to us, the answer is yes," he added.

Hillary Clinton's foreign policy adviser Jake Sullivan said in response that "Ronald Reagan would be ashamed" of Trump's abdication on NATO and his "bizarre and obsequious fascination with Russia's strongman, Vladimir Putin." ("And he's right," former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum tweeted of Sullivan's analysis.)

Read more: http://theweek.com/speedreads/637537/donald-trump-says-administration-might-not-back-nato-allies-russia-invades

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@DrewDad,

My point is that many people speak at the convention, many people express ideas in their speeches, and you only talk about the piece of lint on someone's shoulder while he was speaking. If you want to demonstrate that your ideas are right and that the Republican's ideas are wrong, shouldn't you mention their ideas?

DrewDad wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

And yet, not a single word here about the content of any of the GOP speeches by Trump's family members or anyone else. Not a word of discussion of any of the political ideas expressed by Paul Ryan, Donald Trump Jr., Jeff Sessions, Kimberlin Brown.

Because there were no political ideas expressed other than "we hate Clinton."

False just on the face of it. Many ideas were expressed.

DrewDad wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
No mention of Trump's daughter Tiffany's description of Trump as a father.

Yawn

His daughter's speech described his character as only an insider would know it. Sorry you're bored.

DrewDad wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
No mention of the speeches given by the people present during the Benghazi attack or by their families.

Everyone except rabid Republicans are sick to death of hearing about the Benghazi non-scandal.

Even from the people who lived through it? They made some specific charges about Clinton's behavior during the fatal attack.

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The deal is that the member states of NATO would pay their fair share a certain percentage of their defense budget... The reality is the United States pays over 70% of the bill. What Trump is saying is that if we are to come to the aid of these countries they got to start paying their fair share. That's just good business ladies and gentlemen. We have a crumbling infrastructure in this country we have police officers who are asked to go to work and put their lives on the line for $40,000 a year. It's about time we stop getting screwed.

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@giujohn,

giujohn wrote:

The deal is that the member states of NATO would pay their fair share a certain percentage of their defense budget...

That's not what Trump said according to the transcript.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

giujohn wrote:
The deal is that the member states of NATO would pay their fair share a certain percentage of their defense budget...

That's not what Trump said according to the transcript.

Walter? Don't bother American conservatives with things like facts.

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@Brandon9000,

Brandon9000 wrote:

False just on the face of it. Many ideas were expressed.

Platitudes were expressed. Ideas? Not so much.

Brandon9000 wrote:

His daughter's speech described his character as only an insider would know it. Sorry you're bored.

It is boring. It's an ego boost to hear my kids tell me they love me, but the only surprising thing would be if a kid doesn't love their parent.

Brandon9000 wrote:

They made some specific charges about Clinton's behavior during the fatal attack.

"Benghazi" is only important to folks who are already predisposed to hate Clinton. It holds next to no persuasive value for anyone outside of the Republican party. Anyone who thinks Clinton is personally responsible for what happens halfway across the world is an idiot. Present company included. Even massively partisan investiblametions were unable to get anything to stick.

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When you hear Silicon Valley guru Peter Theil laud Trump as the next great phase in American politics, you may want to know why.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/21/peter-thiel-republican-convention-speech

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@DrewDad,

DrewDad wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:

His daughter's speech described his character as only an insider would know it. Sorry you're bored.

It is boring. It's an ego boost to hear my kids tell me they love me, but the only surprising thing would be if a kid doesn't love their parent.

Come to think of it....

Tiffany Trump’s Sad, Vague Tribute to Her Distant Father

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In a speech about five minutes long, Tiffany was unable to come up with a single meaningful anecdote about her father or his influence in her life. He wrote notes on her childhood report cards, she said, and called her on the phone after someone close to her died. Her attempted praise was edged with sadness: He’s good with advice, she said, but “he keeps it short.” She loves introducing him to her friends who have “preconceived notions” about him, because “in person my father is so friendly, so considerate, so funny, and so real.” The unavoidable implication was that the Donald Trump the public knows is none of these things.

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@roger,

Quote Blickers:

Quote:

I'm wondering if Hillary became afraid a month ago that if she went up in the polls anymore, the GOP would find a way to take the nomination away from Trump. So Hillary took it relatively easy on Trump before he actually got the nomination, lets Trump get close, then she plans to really hit him hard.

Quote roger:

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To be honest, that sounds like some serious rationalization.

You might be right. In normal circumstances, the candidates put out as much as they can as early as they can to get ahead of their opponent. But these are not normal circumstances, and Trump is an extremely flawed candidate-flawed by conventional standards anyway. It would not surprise me if Hillary is not kicking it down to second gear to ensure that Trump doesn't get the nomination stolen from him.

Don't forget the parties are private organizations that can nominate their candidate any way they want. All through this process, the "inside sources" of the GOP have claimed that Trump is going to be surprised at how those delegates he allegedly won are really going to vote. In about a quarter of the states, state law says that the delegates must vote for the person they claimed to represent in the primary. That leaves ¾ of the delegates who theoretically can pull something. Couple that with the fact that although the Republicans don't have "superdelegates" -party leaders-casting a percentage of the vote like they do in the Democratic Party, the Republican rules committee can do anything it wants. It might make the elected delegates worth only one third of the vote, for instance. Nothing is stopping it, other than it would be an extremely radical step and they would lose a lot of potential voters who saw a nomination being stolen from Trump. With Trump only a few points down in the polls, despite the antipathy of the insiders to Trump, they probably wouldn't risk it. However, if at this time Hillary was leading by 15 or 17 points in the polls, the leaders might figure that since they are clearly headed for a disaster with Trump, why not pull out all the stops and give it to somebody else.

In which case, it would behoove Hillary to ease up for a few weeks to make sure Trump gets the nomination.

Whether Hillary actually is easing up, or instead really is going all out and she's slipping in the polls anyway, is something I don't know. I'm hoping it's the first scenario, and not the second.

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@Blickers,

Well, speculating, I think Hillary paces herself and then in the meanwhile works on what is important at that moment. She is choosing her VP and gearing up for the democrat convention, both of which presumably will give her ratings a boost if nothing too negative happens. After both conventions is usually when the real general starts. I agree with those from other countries, our elections are way too long drawn out. I am almost tired of talking about the whole thing and everything related to it.

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@revelette2,

I don't get it; why somebody is thumbing down opinions. If they don't like what they're reading, they should at least post their opinion why they disagree rather than the childish thumb's down.
I thumbed up both of the above.

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