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The Future President, Donald Trump

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 21 Aug, 2015 08:30 pm
@korkamann,
Quote:
Now, why doesn't this surprise me?


Because you are of keen eye, sharp wit and brilliant intelligence.

The opposite of Donald the tRump.
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hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Fri 21 Aug, 2015 09:07 pm
@korkamann,
korkamann wrote:

Quote:
Trump has the "Get a Brain, Morans!" Vote
Trump Supporters Make Twice as many Grammar Errors as Fiorina Supporters


Now, why doesn't this surprise me?


Because you have no conception of what is important. With the hash that the elite have made of their rule of this country trying to push elite standards shows how out of touch you are with your peers, the people of this nation.

Fiorina is a failed business woman and a failed politician, there is no reason to give a **** about her, not matter how well her supporters can spell. Remember that the men of Rome were great at that stuff too, but that did not prevent them from losing almost all of their power. Because it did not matter.
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ossobuco
 
  3  
Fri 21 Aug, 2015 09:10 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Trump reminds me of - what to call it - really weird stuff in the early seventies.

Between my then business partner and a cousin's husband, me working in a science lab, I was what used to be called nonplussed at family talks, as in, astounded. I am your prototype anti woowoo person.

I'm still astounded, but still not sure if Trump is kidding.


hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Fri 21 Aug, 2015 09:19 pm
@ossobuco,
No official number yet but it appears that Trump beat Sanders event total numbers, which were in themselves groundbreaking for this early in the campaign. Again Trump sends shudders through the hearts of the elite.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 21 Aug, 2015 09:26 pm
@ossobuco,
He really thinks he can pull this off.
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glitterbag
 
  4  
Fri 21 Aug, 2015 10:28 pm
@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:



Hummm.
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Well he also claims he has to be careful wearing Bermuda shorts because of anatomical over-reach!
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Oh Frank, you know he only has two anatomical over reaches, not three. He should be happy that two of them are not getting pinched in his glossy loafers. Money doesn't counter age and gravity.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sat 22 Aug, 2015 12:04 am
Donald Trump Just Stopped Being Funny

Win or lose, Trump's campaign threatens to unleash the Great American Stupid

By Matt Taibbi August 21, 2015

Donald Trump at a town hall in New Hampshire.
"The people that are following me are very passionate," Donald Trump said recently. Melina Mara/The Washington Post/Getty Images

So two yahoos from Southie in my hometown of Boston severely beat up a Hispanic homeless guy earlier this week. While being arrested, one of the brothers reportedly told police that "Donald Trump was right, all of these illegals need to be deported."
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When reporters confronted Trump, he hadn't yet heard about the incident. At first, he said, "That would be a shame." But right after, he went on:

"I will say, the people that are following me are very passionate. They love this country. They want this country to be great again. But they are very passionate. I will say that."

This is the moment when Donald Trump officially stopped being funny.

The thing is, even as Donald Trump said and did horrible things during this year's incredible run at the White House, most sane people took solace in the fact that he could never win. (Although new polls are showing that Hillary's recent spiral puts this reassuring thought into jeopardy.)

In fact, most veteran political observers figured that the concrete impact of Trump's candidacy would be limited in the worst case to destroying the Republican Party as a mainstream political force.

That made Trump's run funny, campy even, like a naughty piece of pornographic performance art. After all, what's more obscene than pissing on the presidency? It seemed even more like camp because the whole shtick was fronted by a veteran reality TV star who might even be in on the joke, although of course the concept was funnier if he wasn't.

Trump had the whole country rubbernecking as this preposterous Spaulding Smails caricature of a spoiled rich kid drove the family Rolls (our illustrious electoral process in this metaphor) off the road into a ditch. It was brilliant theater for a while, but the ugliness factor has gotten out of control.

Trump is probably too dumb to realize it, or maybe he isn't, but he doesn't need to win anything to become the most dangerous person in America. He can do plenty of damage just by encouraging people to be as uninhibited in their stupidity as he is.

Trump is striking a chord with people who are feeling the squeeze in a less secure world and want to blame someone – the government, immigrants, political correctness, "incompetents," "dummies," Megyn Kelly, whoever – for their problems.

Karl Rove and his acolytes mined a lot of the same resentments to get Republicans elected over the years, but the difference is that Trump's political style encourages people to do more to express their anger than just vote. The key to his success is a titillating message that those musty old rules about being polite and "saying the right thing" are for losers who lack the heart, courage and Trumpitude to just be who they are.

His signature moment in a campaign full of them was his exchange in the first debate with Fox's Kelly. She asked him how anyone with a history of calling women "fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals" could win a general election against a female candidate like Hillary Clinton.

"I've been challenged by so many people," Trump answered. "I frankly don't have time for political correctness. And to be honest with you, the country doesn't have time either….We don't win anymore. We lose to China. We lose to Mexico….We lose to everybody."

On the surface, Kelly was just doing her job as a journalist, throwing Trump's most outrageous comments back at him and demanding an explanation.

But on another level, she was trying to bring Trump to heel. The extraction of the humiliating public apology is one of the media's most powerful weapons. Someone becomes famous, we dig up dirt on the person, we rub it in his or her nose, and then we demand that the person get down on bended knee and beg forgiveness.

The Clintons' 1992 joint interview on 60 Minutes was a classic example, as was Anthony Weiner's prostration before Andrew Breitbart and Chris Christie's 107-minute marathon apologia after Bridgegate. The subtext is always the same: If you want power in this country, you must accept the primacy of the press. It's like paying the cover at the door of the world's most exclusive club.

Trump wouldn't pay the tab. Not only was he not wrong for saying those things, he explained, but holding in thoughts like that is bad for America. That's why we don't win anymore, why we lose to China and to Mexico (how are we losing to Mexico again?). He was saying that hiding forbidden thoughts about women or immigrants or whoever isn't just annoying, but bad for America.

It's not exactly telling people to get out there and beat people with metal rods. But when your response to news that a couple of jackasses just invoked your name when they beat the crap out of a homeless guy is to salute your "passionate" followers who "love this country," you've gone next-level.

The political right in America has been flirting with dangerous ideas for a while now, particularly on issues involving immigrants and minorities. But in the last few years the rhetoric has gotten particularly crazy.
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Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert proposed using troops and ships of war to stop an invasion of immigrant children, whom he described as a 28 Days Later-style menace. "We don't even know all of the diseases, and how extensive the diseases are," he said.

"A lot of head lice, a lot of scabies," concurred another Texas congressman, Blake Farenthold.

"I'll do anything short of shooting them," promised Mo Brooks, a congressman from the enlightened state of Alabama.

Then there's Iowa's Steve King, who is unusually stupid even for a congressman. He not only believes a recent Supreme Court decision on gay marriage allows people to marry inanimate objects, but also believes the EPA may have intentionally spilled three million gallons of toxic waste into Colorado's Animas river in order to get Superfund money.

Late last year, King asked people to "surround the president's residence" in response to Barack Obama's immigration policies. He talked about putting "boots on the ground" and said "everything is on the table" in the fight against immigrants.

So all of this was in the ether even before Donald Trump exploded into the headlines with his "They're rapists" line, and before his lunatic, Game of Thrones idea to build a giant wall along the southern border. But when Trump surged in the polls on the back of this stuff, it caused virtually all of the candidates to escalate their anti-immigrant rhetoric.

For example, we just had Ben Carson – who seems on TV like a gentle, convivial doctor who's just woken up from a nice nap – come out and suggest that he's open to using drone strikes on U.S. soil against undocumented immigrants. Bobby Jindal recently came out and said mayors in the so-called "sanctuary cities" should be arrested when undocumented immigrants commit crimes. Scott Walker and Marco Rubio have both had to change their positions favoring paths to citizenship as a result of the new dynamic.

Meanwhile, Rick Santorum, polling at a brisk zero percent, joined Jindal and Lindsey Graham in jumping aboard with Trump's insane plan to toss the 14th Amendment out the window and revoke the concept of birthright citizenship, thereby extending the war on immigrants not just to children, but babies.

All of this bleeds out into the population. When a politician says dumb thing X, it normally takes ‘Murica about two days to start flirting publicly with X + way worse.

We saw that earlier this week, when Iowa radio host Jan Mickelson blew up Twitter by calling for undocumented immigrants to become "property of the state" and put into "compelled labor." When a caller challenged the idea, Mickelson answered, "What's wrong with slavery?"

Why there's suddenly this surge of hatred for immigrants is sort of a mystery. Why Donald Trump, who's probably never even interacted with an undocumented immigrant in a non-commercial capacity, in particular should care so much about this issue is even more obscure. (Did he trip over an immigrant on his way to the Cincinnati housing development his father gave him as a young man?)

Most likely, immigrants are just collateral damage in Trump's performance art routine, which is an absurd ritualistic celebration of the coiffed hotshot endlessly triumphing over dirty losers and weaklings.

Trump isn't really a politician, of course. He's a strongman act, a ridiculous parody of a Nietzschean superman. His followers get off on watching this guy with (allegedly) $10 billion and a busty mute broad on his arm defy every political and social convention and get away with it.

People are tired of rules and tired of having to pay lip service to decorum. They want to stop having to watch what they say and think and just get "crazy," as Thomas Friedman would put it.

Trump's campaign is giving people permission to do just that. It's hard to say this word in conjunction with such a sexually unappealing person, but his message is a powerful aphrodisiac. **** everything, **** everyone. **** immigrants and **** their filthy lice-ridden kids. And **** you if you don't like me saying so.

Those of us who think polls and primaries and debates are any match for that are pretty naive. America has been trending stupid for a long time. Now the stupid wants out of its cage, and Trump is urging it on. There are a lot of ways this can go wrong, no matter who wins in 2016.
hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Sat 22 Aug, 2015 04:06 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Insulting those who join the revolution is a sure way to drive it, so this piece in addition to being bad form also will fail in its purpose. We will now see a lot of this accusing of Trump of being Un American and that will just drive him on but it would be best to not insult all of those Americans who support him.

Quote:
People are tired of rules and tired of having to pay lip service to decorum. They want to stop having to watch what they say and think and just get "crazy," as Thomas Friedman would put it.

Trump's campaign is giving people permission to do just that. It's hard to say this word in conjunction with such a sexually unappealing person, but his message is a powerful aphrodisiac. **** everything, **** everyone. **** immigrants and **** their filthy lice-ridden kids. And **** you if you don't like me saying so.

Those of us who think polls and primaries and debates are any match for that are pretty naive. America has been trending stupid for a long time. Now the stupid wants out of its cage, and Trump is urging it on. There are a lot of ways this can go wrong, no matter who wins in 2016.


We are not all going to burn in Hell if we speak freely again, but we might just come to some mutual understanding and gain some mutual respect and maybe even work together to solve problems. But it is not the language control violations that has people so pissy about Trump, it is the fact that if Trump will not follow the language control program of the Elites then he will not follow any of their other demands either.

All over corporate media now we see fear that the people are adopting a leader who is making this election all about bringing down the elite. They should be scared. The masses dont like to be in cages, dont like to have our words and ideas decided for us? Who would have thunk.

Freedom is serious business, it was never supposed to be funny.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sat 22 Aug, 2015 04:18 am
@hawkeye10,
http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-when-the-people-fear-the-government-there-is-tyranny-when-the-government-fears-the-people-there-thomas-jefferson-94142.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 22 Aug, 2015 01:07 pm


"White Power" Yelled From The Stands At Trump's Alabama Rally
"White Power" Yelled From The Stands At Donald Trump's Alabama Rally



This was not an isolated incident. It was yelled out multiple times by people in the crowd, repeatedly, you can check for yourself by re-watching the rally, or by glancing through comment threads from websites where people were watching the rally and searching for the term "white power". For example:

Anonymous 21 August 2015, 16:52
OH KEK SOMEONE SAID WHITE POWER

Anonymous 21 August 2015, 16:57
WHITE POWER
DID ANYONE HEAR THAT??


Anonymous 21 August 2015, 16:28
DID THAT GUY JUST YELL WHITE POWER????!!!

Anonymous 21 August 2015, 16:45
It's the third or fourth time I've heard it


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/22/1414429/-They-Yelled-White-Power-From-the-Stands-at-Donald-Trump-s-Alabama-Rally#

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White Supremacists Flock To Donald Trump After He Reveals Himself As A Racist
Author: Vera July 1, 2015 6:35 pm


While it’s been fun to watch GOP presidential hopeful Donald Trump lose several business relationships as a consequence of his racist statements about Mexican immigrants, those same comments have apparently won him some die-hard fans.

While Univision, NBC and Macy’s have all severed their relationship with the real estate mogul, another demographic has come forward in support: white supremacists. Despite the fact that Trump’s hate speech has cost him millions of dollars, racists are rooting for him as Trump continues to stand by what he calls his “totally accurate” anti-immigrant rant.

One of these new fans is Andres Anglin, who blogs on neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer. Praising the man who he affectionately refers to as “The Don,” Anglin wrote, “I do not believe he would solve all or even most of the problems we are facing, but he is absolutely the only candidate who is even talking about anything at all that matters.” Anglin also spoke with admiration of Trump, because the Republican candidate was “willing to call them out as criminal rapists, murderers and drug dealers.”

Trump also has the support of white supremacist and Council of Conservative Citizens member Kyle Rogers. If you need a refresher, the Council of Conservative Citizens is the hate group that Charleston massacre gunman Dylann Roof credited for radicalizing him. Although Rogers deleted his Twitter account after Roof shot nine black churchgoers dead on June 17, activist Shaun King was able to provide a screenshot of Rogers promoting shirts that said “Donald Trump 2016″ to his Twitter followers the day before the shooting.

Read more:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/07/01/white-supremacists-flock-to-donald-trump-after-he-reveals-himself-as-a-racist-image/

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Read all the info at the links to see the kind of people The Donald is attracting.
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Now we know why Hawkeye likes the Trumpster: they're both aching to use the 'n' word in public.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sat 22 Aug, 2015 02:38 pm
Donald Trump rally draws 20,000 white people in mostly black Alabama town
Source: Daily News Bin

Donald Trump held one of the larger rallies of the 2016 election in Mobile Alabama on Friday night, drawing a crowd that was claimed by attendees to be as large as forty thousand in size, though the half empty venue suggests it may have been closer to twenty thousand people. The outsider candidate for President is currently the republican frontrunner, and is touting the event as a sign that his candidacy – which many in the mainstream consider a joke – is to be taken seriously. He posted a picture of the rally as evidence. One problem: literally everyone in the crowd is white, even though Mobile is a majority black city.

Read more: http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/donald-trump-rally-draws-40000-white-people-in-mostly-black-alabama-town/21791/
hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Sat 22 Aug, 2015 02:42 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
some say 30,000....hopefully we get a good number.
hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Sat 22 Aug, 2015 02:45 pm
Quote:
Indeed, Trump's continuing strength raises questions about women voters, too. It was widely assumed after the first GOP debate and the furor it caused that Mr. Misogynist would drive women from his camp. It is clear that Trump has alienated millions of women with his sexist behavior and has high disapproval ratings with women, but isn't it surprising that in that new CNN/ORC poll, he not only leads the GOP field among Republican men but also among Republican women?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/22/opinions/pease-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html

The elite in the media are now trying to figure out what fantasy to tell next about trump and his popularity. These bozos still have not figured out that the gig is up, that we know they are clueless. "Those ******* little people, why in 2015 are they still in large numbers refusing to do what they are supposed to do!, This is OUTRAGEOUS!"
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HesDeltanCaptain
 
  -2  
Sat 22 Aug, 2015 05:28 pm
@edgarblythe,
More I see of the alternatives on either side, more I like Trump. Woulda liked a intelligence head like Bush senior or someone with command military credentials, but given the choices thus far, better Trump than them.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 23 Aug, 2015 12:47 am
@hawkeye10,
I saw the video from Rachel Madow. He barely half filled a 40,000 seat stadium.

Funny how the lamestreet news didn't show that, but did talk about it.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-slated-hold-huge-alabama-rally-n413856

1:48

Thousands of people showed up to hear Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump speak at an Alabama rally Friday, in which the business tycoon vowed, "we're going to make America better than it's ever been."

The crowd filled about half of the 43,000-seat Ladd-Peebles Stadium in Mobile. It was a hot night, and humid. Trump looked upwards and joked: "If it rains, I'll take off my hat and I'll prove, I'll prove, I'll prove once and for all, that it's mine," while stroking his hair.

Trump repeated his tough stance on immigration, vowing "we're going to build a wall," and saying Congress could end the guarantee of being granted citizenship upon being born within the U.S.

"The 14th Amendment — I was right on it. You can do something with it, and you can do something fast," Trump said. "In the case of other countries, including Mexcio, they don't do that. It doesn't work that way. ... We're the only place just about that's stupid enough to do it," he said.

Panorama of crowd and stadium here in Mobile. #trump. pic.twitter.com/rLDMDzIrKo
— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) August 22, 2015

Trump's campaign had pegged the expected attendance at the event at 42,000. They moved Friday's "pep rally" from the city's Civic Center — which seats about 4,000 — to the stadium in anticipation of the huge crowd.

Police and fire officials estimated Friday's crowd at around 20,000.

Stadium is about half filled. Closer to 20,000 rather than the 40,000 campaign had hoped. Still largest Republican rally yet by far. #trump
— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) August 22, 2015

Trump got some of his biggest cheers from the crowd Friday when he pledged to strengthen the military and take care of veterans, and when he extolled his skills as a businessman — while taking a swipe at GOP rival Jeb Bush.

"Who would you rather have negotiate with China, Japan, Mexico, any other: Trump or Bush?" Trump asked. The crowd cheered, and some began to chant "Trump! Trump! Trump!"

2:25

Trump has been drawing large crowds during stops in key primary states like New Hampshire, animating conservative voters who admire Trump's brand of brash, often personal politics and his draconian proposals to upend the nation's immigration policy.

"The more he speaks on issues — and he's an unfiltered candidate when he speaks — the more he does seem to resonate with folks," said Terry Lathan, the chairwoman of the Alabama Republican Party. "People like straight talkers and he seems to be doing that."

Last weekend, Trump unveiled an immigration blueprint that included the construction of a continuous border wall, the deportation of the nation's estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants and the ending of birthright citizenship for children born on U.S. soil to parents in the country illegally.

Alabama, which will hold its presidential primary along with a slate of other southern states on March 1, 2016, could be particularly fertile ground for Trump's message.

In spring 2011, the state enacted the nation's harshest law to crack down on illegal immigration, including a provision requiring police to detain anyone suspected of being in the country illegally if the person was unable to produce proper documentation. The law also included a provision requiring public schools to determine the immigration status of students.

But a series of lawsuits swiftly resulted in the halting of many of the law's key provisions, which opponents decried as blatantly unconstitutional. By October, the state reached a settlement agreement that effectively gutted the measure.

The state's Hispanic population was about 4.1 percent in 2013, according to Census figures. But that number has been growing. Between 2000-2012, Alabama was one of the five states nationwide with the fastest growth of its Hispanic population, which grew 157 percent over the 12 year period.

Alabama is also heavily conservative, backing Mitt Romney by 61 percent over Barack Obama's 38 percent in the 2012 presidential election.

Trump's appearance in the state is intended to build support as the Republican field courts the southern voters who will weigh in on the primary contest shortly after key states like Iowa and New Hampshire.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/thousands-attend-trump-rally-mobile-alabama/story?id=33240509


Politics
Thousands Attend Trump Rally in Mobile, Alabama
Aug 22, 2015, 10:20 AM ET
By ALANA ABRAMSON and LISSETTE RODRIGUEZ via This Week
PHOTO: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks during a campaign rally in Mobile, Ala., on Friday, Aug. 21, 2015.
Donald Trump Holds Stadium Rally in Alabama
Next Video Thousands Line Up for Donald Trump's Rally in Alabama
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In what was hyped to be one of the biggest events of the 2016 campaign so far, GOP front-runner Donald Trump held a rally Friday in Mobile, Alabama, in front of thousands.

The campaign had to switch locations twice -- from a hotel and convention center -- after demand for tickets exceeded holding capacities. Ultimately, the event was held in Mobile's Ladd-Peebles Stadium, which can hold up to 40,000 people.

The stadium was about half full when Trump started his speech. He said it drew 30,000 people.

Alabama was great last night, amazing people. 30,000 folks was largest crowd of political season. Nice!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 22, 2015

About half full and a helluva menagerie of people.... pic.twitter.com/AcGqXZouPI
— Kim Boone (@travelnlt_kim) August 22, 2015

"We were going to have 250, 300 people. The hotel was great. They said something is happening here. We can't hold this," Trump said. "And then, we want to the convention center and they can have 10,000 people...The next day they said too many people we can't put them in. So we came here."

Trump supporters begin to line up in Mobile for what the campaign hopes is the biggest rally of the 2016 race so far pic.twitter.com/9WJnvXnskR
— Seni Tienabeso (@SeniABC) August 21, 2015

Literally thousands here already! For a primary rally just a couple of months in! @realDonaldTrump #TrumpAlabama pic.twitter.com/bNbSYAx83S
— rebelfag68 (@rebelfag68) August 21, 2015

Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders has so far held the record for largest crowd at an event this season, when he drew 28,000 people to Portland for a rally.

Christopher Donato contributed reporting.

Despite all the free media, Trump's rally was only half-full, and this in Alabama.
But you would not know that from the media's reporting. The info is generally buried in the middle of the page. Kudos to Rachel Maddow for making this clear.

Still a lot of people, but about half what they boasted they would get. You got to wonder how many Sanders or even Cruz/Carson ( ) could get if their rally was publicized like his.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/21/politics/donald-trump-rally-mobile-alabama/index.html?eref=edition


The event was previously planned to be held at the nearby Civic Center but was moved to the 43,000-seat Ladd-Peebles Stadium -- a venue normally home to high school football games -- to accommodate the crowd. It was not immediately clear how many people attended the rally; the 5,000-seat bleachers behind Trump were filled to capacity, but the east and west bleachers flanking the field -- which each hold up to 15,000 people -- were about half-full when Trump began speaking around 7:30 p.m. CT.
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jcboy
 
  4  
Sun 23 Aug, 2015 10:09 am
Apparently, it's not Donald Trump that Republicans are concerned about, it's his wife that they're having a hard time reconciling with their vision of "family values". Cool

 http://oi62.tinypic.com/s0wy00.jpg
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sun 23 Aug, 2015 10:56 am
@jcboy,
Trump is far to far to the Left for many hard core R's, but on the other hand that means that he can get many more votes from moderates than the rest can.
revelette2
 
  4  
Sun 23 Aug, 2015 11:12 am
@hawkeye10,
You are speaking past tense, he used to be to the left of most republicans, now he has decided to take a completely far right platform and it is working for him, mores the pity.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 23 Aug, 2015 11:12 am
@hawkeye10,
Left. You think tRump is "left"?
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jcboy
 
  8  
Sun 23 Aug, 2015 11:17 am
As they watch blond anchors on fox news in short skirts, and secretly wank it to Sarah Palin. I'm sure inwardly these right wing christian family value hypocrites are fine with this. Cool
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