Builder
 
  1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 03:35 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
You just came here to fulminate against the United States


If you can't see the damage that your "admin" is causing globally, then maybe you need to start looking yourself.

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Setanta
 
  1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 03:42 am
Malcom Turnbull became your PM after he overthrew Abbott as leader of the Liberal Party. Was he elected by the people of Australia? No, he was elected by the people of Wentworth. It's a bit thick to have anyone from a nation operating under the Westminster system come around and pontificate about democracy.
Builder
 
  1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 03:46 am
@Setanta,
We've have three unelected PMs in five years. Try and keep up. The westminster system was created by classist paedophiles to protect their own. If you want to discuss Australia's political situation, start a thread.

This one is about how fucked up your situation is, that a retarded bankrupt like Drumpf could even be on the card. Address that.
Setanta
 
  1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 03:48 am
@Builder,
Spray your vitriol at someone else. You seriously need some anger management counseling.
Setanta
 
  1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 03:50 am
By the way, all of your prime ministers have been un-elected. The people of Australia don't elect prime ministers.
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Builder
 
  0  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 03:55 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
Spray your vitriol at someone else.


I've just enjoyed a lovely chicken curry. I'm stating facts.

If that's not to your liking, then **** off somewhere else.

You've not been party to this discussion at all, so take your little mind back to where you were before, and mind your own business for a change.
Setanta
 
  1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 04:40 am
@Builder,
What facts were those? That the Westminster system was created by pedophiles? That the party system in the United States is undemocratic. You crack me up.
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revelette2
 
  2  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 05:43 am
Quote:
An article in Politico uncritically repeated Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump's claim that he would raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans as president, but also reported that Trump's plan would actually reduce the top marginal income tax rate from 39.6 to 25 percent and lower the corporate income tax rate to 15 percent.

During a September 27 appearance on CBS News' 60 Minutes, Trump claimed that his tax policy would raise taxes on the "very wealthy." This claim apparently inspired Politico to use the headline, "Trump plans to hike taxes on the wealthy" for a September 28 article describing his tax plan that said publicly-available information about Trump's tax plan -- set to be released in full on September 28 -- indicated that the wealthiest Americans would actually receive a tax cut:

Quote:
Under a President Donald Trump, some Americans will pay no income tax and the corporate income tax will fall to 15 percent, while the Treasury Department will maintain or even increase current revenue.

[...]

According to The Wall Street Journal, which obtained more details ahead of the plan's formal release, individuals making less than $25,000 and married couples making less than $50,000 will not have to pay taxes. The current highest income-tax rate--39.6 percent--would drop to 25 percent. Overall, the number of rates would decrease from the current seven to four, at 0, 10, 20 and 25 percent. While 36 percent of American households do not pay income tax currently, that share would jump to 50 percent.


The gulf between Politico's headline and its reporting on the publicly-available details of Trump's tax plan doesn't stand up to even modest scrutiny, and its failure to get the math right was rightly mocked by conservative Washington Post blogger Jennifer Rubin on Twitter.

Despite what Trump told 60 Minutes, the numbers don't add up. According to a detailed summary of the billionaire businessman's plan in The Wall Street Journal, Trump also says he would reduce the top capital gains rate from 23.8 to 20 percent, and claims his proposed 15 percent corporate income rate is "among the lowest that have been proposed so far" by any candidate from either party. According to The Journal, Trump's tax plan would eliminate or cap some tax deductions that cater to the wealthy but with major reductions in baseline rates it is unclear how limiting deductions would amount to a tax "hike."

UPDATE: Following a September 28 speech in which Trump revealed his full tax reform plan, Politico updated its article with a new headline and additional reporting, including praise of the plan from Americans for Tax Reform, which opposes any increases of marginal tax rates for any individual or business. The new headline still takes Trump at his word that his tax proposals are "going to cost [him] a fortune," despite the underlying article reaffirming Trump's proposed rate reductions for corporations and high income earners. Politico also confirmed Trump's plan to eliminate the estate tax, which the publication referred to as the "death tax." Eliminating the estate tax would be a major tax policy victory for the wealthiest 0.2 percent of Americans, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP).


source
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parados
 
  7  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 07:16 am
@Builder,
The party rules for voting in NY were shared with the public. Because you didn't bother to look them up is not the fault of the party. They are under no obligation to show up at your door and read you the rules and then test you to see if you can understand them. It seems you don't understand that democracy means you have to personally take some responsibility to educate yourself.
Lash
 
  1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 08:51 am
@parados,
Dude. Bernie's team disseminated the registration info half a year ago. Even though the rules do suppress votes, you can't morally argue with rules in the middle of the game. Hopefully, the inquiry into the massive illegal purge of properly registered voters will result in a recount of disenfranchised NY voters.

Something is wrong. People were cheated out of their right to vote.
ehBeth
 
  3  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 09:10 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:
So the parties themselves create rules that they aren't under any obligation to share with the public?


the party rules re voting in primaries etc are available

there is no requirement for them to share that information but it is available

if people don't realize they should look at the rules, that's on those people, no one else
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glitterbag
 
  3  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 11:27 am
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
Spray your vitriol at someone else.


I've just enjoyed a lovely chicken curry. I'm stating facts.

If that's not to your liking, then **** off somewhere else.

You've not been party to this discussion at all, so take your little mind back to where you were before, and mind your own business for a change.


Oh crap, if the rest of us knew that you created A2K in your image we would have viewed you with the proper admiration. But thats not the situation, is it mate? Maybe you should have eaten more of your lovely chicken curry then taken a gander at the A2K rules. Or not, apparently its not necessary to actually review the rules of every registered political party in every state of the union before you become a self-appointed know-it-all. You really should have taken my advice on that hat suggestion. It would have cleared your head.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 12:16 pm
http://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/662i05/picture73355267/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/judge%200424.jpg
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parados
 
  5  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 01:00 pm
@Lash,
Disenfranchised voters have to show up at the polls to be disenfranchised. People that are removed from the rolls because they moved and didn't respond to mail about their registration at their old address are not disenfranchised. They are no longer legally allowed to vote with that address because they don't live there.

I will bet you any amount you want to that there are less than 50,000 people in NY that showed up to vote and were unable to. The hot line set up for people to call about no longer being registered to the correct party only received 300 calls.
snood
 
  3  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 01:28 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Disenfranchised voters have to show up at the polls to be disenfranchised. People that are removed from the rolls because they moved and didn't respond to mail about their registration at their old address are not disenfranchised. They are no longer legally allowed to vote with that address because they don't live there.

I will bet you any amount you want to that there are less than 50,000 people in NY that showed up to vote and were unable to. The hot line set up for people to call about no longer being registered to the correct party only received 300 calls.

But Parados, all that logic doesn't grok with the need to claim a grievous injustice has been done!!! So consequentially, it must be disregarded.
RABEL222
 
  4  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 02:55 pm
@snood,
What we are seeing from the Bernie folks is the fact that the majority of voters are choosing Hilary over Bernie. That is why they are screaming foul at the top of their voices. The fact of defeat is finally sinking in.
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Lash
 
  -1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 06:36 pm
@parados,
Only about 50,000? Think about what you just said.

Who are you people?
CalamityJane
 
  3  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 06:51 pm
Hey, I just got a call from Donald Trump (recording) - he screams like crazy, I couldn't hear what he was saying, not that I wanted to anyway, but the nerve.....
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 06:53 pm
@CalamityJane,
We got that call too, and my wife deleted it as soon as she heard his voice.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 23 Apr, 2016 07:44 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Only about 50,000? Think about what you just said.


Yes one is must too many voters to be turn away less alone 50,000.
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