Dammit Bill, how do you see this issue so clearly and be so dismally blind about BLM and Women's Rights?????????????
Been a supporters of women rights since the late 1970s and even join NOW to try to get the equal rights amendment pass at the time.
I am not however of the opinion that women should be treated as small children and who do not bear equal responsibility with the men in their lives as far as their sexual relationships are concern.
As far as BLM they in my opinion are just a anti-police and anti-white and racist organization who have at least to this point not even try to address the problems facing the black community and resulting is large scale deaths of young black men.
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onevoice
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Wed 23 Mar, 2016 05:14 pm
@maporsche,
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I wouldn't know who to ask onevoice. I'm an atheist tried and true. I know a few gay people but not well enough to get this personal.
You mentioned (I'm paraphrasing) that you love the person but not the sin. Or maybe rather that it's ok for a man to be homosexual as long as they don't choose to engage in homosexual acts (as defined by your chosen God).
Why does it even matter? Why are YOU concerned with it? I'm not. I'm really not. I'm tired of splitting hairs over a "sin" that is only one of many... As if it were somehow worse than every other sin out there... Or in some cases it's almost like it's the ONLY sin anymore. Just depends which extremist group you happen to be talking to.
Here"s the thing maporshe sin is sin. Period. The sin those Baker's committed against that gay couple just through the things they said, which were horrendous, is not better or worse than the very sin they were condemning. It's still all SIN. Whatever details are contained within that particular "sin" are of no effect... To my life anyway unless I am the one doing it.
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Setanta
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Wed 23 Mar, 2016 05:17 pm
The notion that homosexuality is a "sin," an offense against the putative god who made them that way, is really sick.
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Lash
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Wed 23 Mar, 2016 05:20 pm
@snood,
Is the 'black lifestyle' ok? I think the analogy may help you understand why 'gay lifestyle' isn't an accurate moniker.
When I went to religious school I was taught that God gave us all free will. What ever I thought was right was right with God as long as it dident hurt someone. I guess the nuns and priests who taught me dident know what the hell thy were talking about?
I've known about 25 - 30 gay people. The only thing most of them had in common was that they had sex with people of their gender. Most all of the other aspects of their lives varied.
So calling it a gay lifestyle is an inaccurate description.
What's a woman's lifestyle? A vegetarian lifestyle? A black lifestyle? It seems like another way to stereotype people.
Is the 'black lifestyle' ok? I think the analogy may help you understand why 'gay lifestyle' isn't an accurate moniker.
Next time you get an urge to try to instruct me about ANYTHING, save it for someone who respects your judgement and understanding.
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cicerone imposter
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Wed 23 Mar, 2016 07:05 pm
@Lash,
There is no such thing as xxxx lifestyle. E.g., I might live a healthy lifestyle.
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ehBeth
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Wed 23 Mar, 2016 07:11 pm
@roger,
I'd ask her what her vegetarian lifestyle is (if I cared). If I really cared, I might ask why she calls it a lifestyle.
My experience as a former vegan/vegetarian is that everyone who calls themself vegan/vegetarian is doing something slightly different in terms of their food/clothing/life choices.
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RYAN: You (MUFFLED) mentioned a few minutes earlier here that you would knock ISIS. You’ve mentioned it many times. You’ve also mentioned the risk of putting American troop in a danger area. If you could substantially reduce the risk of harm to ground troops, would you use a battlefield nuclear weapon to take out ISIS?
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RYAN: This is about ISIS. You would not use a tactical nuclear weapon against ISIS?...
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“He has no understanding of presidential powers. He has no understanding of Congress. It’s like putting a chimp in the driver’s seat of a tractor. He’s not going to plow the field. He’s going to drive the tractor into the lake.”...
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onevoice
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Thu 24 Mar, 2016 06:50 am
@maporsche,
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You don't answer the questions I asked...
I answered your questions maporshe. Now I am waiting to see if you will be a person of integrity and follow through with your end of the bargin?
WOLF BLITZER (HOST): If you were president, Mr. Trump, what would you do, how would you question Salah Abdeslam, one of the ringleaders of the Paris attacks who was arrested the other day in Brussels?
DONALD TRUMP: That's the man I'm talking about, and he was arrested in an area that everybody knew he was there, but they didn't turn him in. The Muslim community did not turn him in, and they should have turned him in. And right now we have a lot of people, and a lot of people think he may have led this attack, he may have been the one who did the attack. Or it was done in retribution, and what I would do is I would -- look, I think we have to change our law on, you know, the waterboarding thing, where they can chop off heads and they can drown people in cages and heavy steel cages and we can't waterboard. So we have to change our laws, and we have to be able to fight at least on almost equal basis. We have laws that we have to obey in terms of torture. They have no laws whatsoever that they have to obey.
[...]
BLITZER: The military people say they oppose torture, that it's not part of the U.S. Military Code of Conduct.
TRUMP: I disagree. I don't believe they do. I don't believe it, I don't believe it. I think they're told to say that politically. I think they believe in in 100 percent. You talk to Gen. Patton from years ago, you talk to Gen. Douglas Macarthur, I will guarantee it, these were real generals, and I guarantee you they would be laughing. Well right now they're crying, and right now they're spinning in their graves as they watch this stupidity go on.
BLITZER: Mr. Trump, I just wanted to point out it was the CIA who was engaged in the waterboarding after 9/11. The U.S. military deliberately said they didn't want to have any part of the waterboarding because it wasn't part of their Military Code of Conduct. That's why it was left to civilians working at the CIA with the authorization of the Justice Department, of course, and the Bush administration.
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maporsche
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Thu 24 Mar, 2016 08:47 am
@onevoice,
I honestly don't even remember what your question was? (you didn't copy/paste it again, like I did).
Oh goodness. I am.sorry maporshe. I had a brain fart. Lol Here ya go:
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What exactly is the difference between a rich person, who lives a rich "lifestyle", which affords luxuries the standard person cannot afford, and and a homosexual who lives a homosexual lifestyle?
Why is it that one word can mean something completely different... Just depending on who it's applied to?
And isn't it just a wee bit prejudice to imply it is OK to do that?
